Did you know that Tourette's Syndrome includes hand gestures?
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[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;36976202]Because according to a [URL="www.mopo.de/nachrichten/von-unbekanntem-attackiert-tourette-kranker--verpruegelt--weil-er-zuckungen-hat,5067140,16718584.html"]German article about this[/URL], his friends explained that he has tourette's syndrome to the guy that punched him, but he didn't believe them and punched him anyways.
Shouldn't it be possible to tell apart a guy having his tourrette's syndrome tics and a neonazi (or just an uneducated immature idiot) genuinely trying to piss someone off?
Especially after his pals point out his disorder?[/QUOTE]
I took that into consideration.
[quote]The salute is now symbolic of far-right fascism and making a Nazi salute is illegal in Germany and punishable by up to three years of prison[/quote]
Oh wow what a shitty tic to have in Germany of all places
Shoot first, ask questions later, eh?
What a dick.
[QUOTE=Andokool12;36976835]Oh wow what a shitty tick to have in Germany of all places[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure this law doesn't apply to people with tourrette's syndrome whose tics look a surprising lot like the nazi salute.
Plus Police officers know (or at least should) about tourrette's and could probably tell if someone is lying about it or not.
I have a pretty mild case of tourrettes that started when I was around 16. I get the urge to push my head up and down very fast, squeeze my eyes, roll my shoulders, move my legs, and move my wrists. I say it's mild because I've suppressed all of it for about 2 years now. Takes a lot of self control but my head tick gave me neck pains/headaches.
I can tell you from my experience that ticks usually formed in me based around what I was thinking, so if I suppressed my head tick I would think about other ones and the sensation to relieve them would replace the head tick.Speaking only from personal experience, I can see why a nazi salute became this person's tick. Seems like the reason socially unacceptable vocal ticks come into fruition is due to the person knowing he can't say them.
Could be wrong though, just how it feels for me. As I'm typing this the sensations are getting stronger as I'm thinking about it more, I try not to think about it and it's no big deal.
He should have thrown his other arm out in the same pose and yelled out "I AM ZE SUPERMAN!"
Hey, at least he wouldn't be a Nazi.
In all seriousness, though, I feel sorry for the guy. It must suck to have Tourette's.
[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;36977348]I'm pretty sure this law doesn't apply to people with tourrette's syndrome whose tics look a surprising lot like the nazi salute.
Plus Police officers know (or at least should) about tourrette's and could probably tell if someone is lying about it or not.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah but it would still be embarrassing, from what I've seen most speech/gestural tics are things generally considered offensive/socially unacceptable.
Not trying to further the "TOURETTES IS SWEARING" stereotype however
[QUOTE=just-a-boy;36975954]Unfortunately awareness for this kind of thing is hard to spread. You have the very small percentage of people who genuinely suffer from it and you have the much larger percentage of people who either lie or are simply assholes who do disrespectful things on purpose. Because honestly, are you going believe a kid telling you he has Tourettes after he's done insulting you and your mother is true? People are definitely more inclined to believe the kid is an asshole, because blaming it on Tourettes sounds like the perfect alibi anyway. And that's not surprising either, with some of the thing kids do now.[/QUOTE]
Oh God why did you take this up, it remembers me when I had so many problems with bullies, especially when they think I blame on Tourette, and still I continued by doing my tics and got beat up.
Just lying there on the ground getting kicked and doing mentally tough movements that makes me tired in seconds, while being kicked on the ground? I allways ask myself why "I" had to be so unlucky and get this syndrome. And the same time I got Asperger, Autism, OCD.
Done this salute probably 5 times a year, but the worst ever was the speech I had and the first time I met my new teacher. I was about to say my name and I just like that made a Nazi salute. I never say the word though. But it would be so priceless if I said "Joakim Hansson, sieg heil!" :v:
And the next day hear some girls say
"Hey, isn't that the Nazi guy?"
"Yeah, what a weirdo!"
:tinfoil:
[editline]28th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Juggernog;36974697]I've always wondered, with Tourettes do you feel it coming on, and regret it as you're doing it, but can't stop?[/QUOTE]
Depends on which tics they got.
Example:
Shaking head - Comes without noticing, sometimes you don't even know it happened, if you've done it alot.
Step 2 times on right foot - You know 1 second before it come.
It depends more on the person. Some people can actully stop most of their tics.
Not very related really...
[QUOTE=liltourette;36977030]Shoot first, ask questions later, eh?
What a dick.[/QUOTE]
or if you actually read the article you'd know that the poor kid actually explained his condition, but wasn't believed as his tourette also made him grin
Okay, folks.
Tourette's does [b]not not necessarily[/b] mean you are going to randomly shout out profanity. A very small percentage of people with Tourette's do that, and it is referred to as coprolalia.
As someone with Tourette's, I have never had such a tic. Mine were usually vocal, grunting noises, head shaking, clenching muscles in my neck, or twitching my nose.
About whether people with Tourette's can feel tics coming on or not, here is a quote from the [url=http://www.tsa-usa.org/aMedical/definitions.html]Tourette Syndrome Association[/url].
[quote]Tics occur as an involuntary movement or as a response to an urge to perform the movement, which transiently relieves the sensation. The label of "unvoluntary" movement is used to fit this latter situation, ie, the movement is a response to relieve an unpleasant sensation. These "unvoluntary" movements are commonly perceived by the patient as voluntary7 and, therefore, are often, but not always, partially or fully temporarily suppressible. Unless the disorder is very severe, most individuals with tics can voluntarily suppress them for various periods of time.8 This is in contrast with other hyperkinetic movement disorders, which can be suppressed for only very short durations, if at all.8 But when tics are suppressed, an inner tension of discomfort tends to build up, which is relieved only by an increased burst of tics.[/quote]
Poor sod. He's probably become a bit phobic of going out in public now, after that dickhead attacked him.
I feel sorry for people with Tourettes, however I can see how easily someone could take offence and completely obliterate the guy who suffers from it.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;36978581]So is tourette's similar to the compulsion to sneeze or yawn, you know its there but it pretty much overrides your control over your body.
Does the compulsion completely catch you by surprise or can you just counteract it?
Granted I usually lock my jaw shut when I yawn, it doesn't really work :V[/QUOTE]
In answering this question, I can only speak for myself.
Personally, it feels different than the compulsion to sneeze or yawn. For me, those two things are something that I can predict coming, but generally can't stop.
Pardon the comparison, I have always felt that the 'urge' for a tic felt more like feeling restless and tense because you really, really, really have to pee. Not the sensation in your bladder, but the antsy feeling that seems to settle in your head and chest. You know you don't need to do it right then, though also you know there is a point where you simply must pee. You also know that when you do it, it will be such a relief.
Another, less urinary explanation of how it feels to me is that an oncoming tic has the same feeling of anxiety and tension as you might get after being a passenger in an incredibly long car ride. I just prefer not to this example because I don't feel it captures the urgent feeling as well as the other one does.
Good for me I only get neck/head tics usually for two weeks each year, shit to be that kid. If he didn't fake it that is.
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