• Memorial to 'Forgotten' Holocaust Opens in Germany for 500,000 Gypsies Also Slaughtered by Nazis
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[QUOTE=Kljunas;38219211]Even though this post is dumb it's not racism. The generalisation here is based on a lifestyle and not on an ethnicity.[/QUOTE] The distinction is minor, if it even exists; he just said that leaving their camps is not an option, so he's basically hating on them for something they are apparently incapable of changing. Sound familiar?
Why do Gypsies get so much hate ? Seriously. If someone says "black people are dumb and steal everything" people will get guerilla on them, but if someone says "Gypsies are dumb and steal everything" they'll most likely be agreed with. You guys need to stop being such hypocrites and should stop being such dipshits while you're at it.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;38219349]Why do Gypsies get so much hate ? Seriously. If someone says "black people are dumb and steal everything" people will get guerilla on them, but if someone says "Gypsies are dumb and steal everything" they'll most likely be agreed with. You guys need to stop being such hypocrites and should stop being such dipshits while you're at it.[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised about what quite a few people here think about black people, especially a surprising number of Europeans. It's really rather worrying.
I think its pretty obvious whats happening here. The people who have negative feelings about gypsies obviously live in places where they are mostly criminals or just unpleasant people to be near of due to whatever malevolent actions they have. The people who either don't mind them or have positive feelings about them obviously know gypsies who lead normal lives like everyone else. The thing is, the latter is a bit rare in parts of the world like Europe. Its a fact that many of them are criminals, hence the bad reputation they got throughout time and how they get deported because of, well, their unwanted activities and presence... Back in first and second grade, I had 2 gypsy friends. He was probably the best kid around there while everyone else was a douchebag. He and his family also weren't criminals or anything of the sort, his granpa even had a legit store. The other was his hot, blond sister, which actually melted my shit whenever I was around her. She really was hot. She was older though. They moved after that and never saw them again. Now that I think of it, I wonder whats up with them... Anyway, just like those 2 and their family were the very definition of nice people, there are many more who are. Heck I've heard of one who's the mayor of a town. I don't think half the people here actually meant that the genocide of gypsy people is/would be a good thing. I don't even think they are actually racist and just have pretty bad feelings about them because they might live in places where gypsies are only criminals and there isn't any other "kind" of gypsy there. I myself have heard of both good and bad stories about them. From being the most polite and educated people, to someone you wouldn't want to cross paths with. Sadly, the latter stories are too many, giving them the already mentioned bad reputation. The granma of a friend of mine had huge problems with them. She had a small piece of land near some woods. One day, she went there to check out to see how it was. Gypsies had occupied it. The place was filled with trash, and she got a bit mad and sad at the same time. She went to have a talk with them, and just got a rather cold welcome of dogs barking at her and people telling her to fuck off. Cops didn't do anything. Everytime she went there, she would get sick from seeing the place ravaged by them, so she ended up selling the piece of land or something. I see where the people who hate them are coming from. But genocide? Hardly think they mean it. Racism? Doubt it aswell, they probably could hang out with all the gypsy folk in the world if they didn't do whatever bad things they do. Why don't people respect each others opinions? Not counting the genocidial remarks, or at least finding out if they are trolls or actually for real. It's clear that some people wont have nice opinions about them due to whatever reasons that I highly doubt were based on just one case of a stolen bike, and some people will have good opinions and only defend them. And why is that my profile picture?
Fucking americans, you don't even know what gypsies are. They are a whole different fucking deal in Europe, they will rob you, they will bribe the police to make you jam cock in ass because they are so rich and lastly they will hunt you down and beat you to the pulp for daring to take action in the first place. Sure, some of them are cool (3%) but the other are the vermin of the country. They refuse proper jobs because they are too lazy to work by Jupiter's cock and just to make everything more fun they refuse to let their kids go to fucking school and have an education, they use them as begging bait and after they get their money they will go to another country to leech off it. They will suck money out said country and then get deported, given money to live a life where they came from. What do you think they do with the money ? They go the fuck back, continuing to stain the name of the country they were born it. They should all be hauled back to the place they came from, India or forced to work in the god damned industry. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Dbuhos;38221330]-retardation-[/QUOTE] All I can hear from this post is "Sieg Heil"
[QUOTE=Dbuhos;38221330]Fucking americans, you don't even know what gypsies are. They are a whole different fucking deal in Europe, they will rob you, they will bribe the police to make you jam cock in ass because they are so rich and lastly they will hunt you down and beat you to the pulp for daring to take action in the first place. Sure, some of them are cool (3%) but the other are the vermin of the country. They refuse proper jobs because they are too lazy to work by Jupiter's cock and just to make everything more fun they refuse to let their kids go to fucking school and have an education, they use them as begging bait and after they get their money they will go to another country to leech off it. They will suck money out said country and then get deported, given money to live a life where they came from. What do you think they do with the money ? They go the fuck back, continuing to stain the name of the country they were born it. They should all be hauled back to the place they came from, India or forced to work in the god damned industry.[/QUOTE] Not exactly like that. Pre-schools here are filled with gypsy kids. They do get their education. Again, its the same thing. Some do, others don't. Hopefully, the kids who are in school, stay in school. I'd hate to see them following the same paths most do.
[QUOTE=entertainer89;38208522]He also can't leave his family, know why? Because they will kill him. Bunch of apologists on here sticking up for their way of life because they don't have experience dealing with them. I fucking dare any of you to walk into one of their camps. You will die, and I will laugh because in your final moments you'll lay there and realize how stupid you were. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism / Threadshitting" - Megafan))[/highlight][/QUOTE] great ukip supporter impersonation 10/10 very dramatic
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38221372]All I can hear from this post is "Sieg Heil"[/QUOTE] This is as dumb as people saying and meaning "genocide for the gypsies" He didn't even say a thing about that and you're already partnering him with Hitler. What he said has a grain of truth, although it doesn't applies to everyone. As said, certain parts of Europe harbour some pretty fucked up people.
[QUOTE=Dbuhos;38221330]Fucking americans, you don't even know what gypsies are. They are a whole different fucking deal in Europe, they will rob you, they will bribe the police to make you jam cock in ass because they are so rich and lastly they will hunt you down and beat you to the pulp for daring to take action in the first place. Sure, some of them are cool (3%) but the other are the vermin of the country. They refuse proper jobs because they are too lazy to work by Jupiter's cock and just to make everything more fun they refuse to let their kids go to fucking school and have an education, they use them as begging bait and after they get their money they will go to another country to leech off it. They will suck money out said country and then get deported, given money to live a life where they came from. What do you think they do with the money ? They go the fuck back, continuing to stain the name of the country they were born it. They should all be hauled back to the place they came from, India or forced to work in the god damned industry.[/QUOTE] I have never heard of this ever, and I live in England. Stop being so racist, it's like saying all muslims are terrorists.
I love how some of the UK posters here feel they have a "Gypsy" problem. First off, our Gypsies aren't Roma, just travelling folk. I live in the Country, they're a nuisance, yeah, they've never left a site they set up on clean and incurr huge costs before they are moved on, but that's it - just a nuisance. Even in countries with actual Roma, and my girlfriend (Who is Hungarian) has been telling me a lot about modern Roma/Gypsy culture in Eastern/Central Europe wouldn't call it a problem, it's just a nuisance - and again, only caused by the most visible and repugnant specimens (Like Fundamentalists in any abrahmic religion). Most of them are perfectly fine, it's just that the place y'all pigeonhole them into leaves some of them no option to pursue the stereotype in the first place.
[QUOTE=Dbuhos;38221330]They should all be hauled back to the place they came from, India or [B]forced to work in the god damned industry.[/B][/QUOTE] Find yourself born to gypsy parents? "Off to the workhouses with you, ya little fucking subhumans!" I mean bloody hell, do you even realize what that'd be like? Even ignoring the massively racist connotations, you'd be sending people to work themselves half to death just for being born of gypsy blood. That's freaking insane!
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;38196531]Regardless, trying to compare the rape of Nanjing/the Holocaust, among the many other atrocities that Japan/Germany committed, to the Allies bombing of cities is illogical. They have completely different intentions behind them. And yes, Stalin killed more innocent people than Hitler did. There's no debating that. The only reason he wasn't chastised for such actions was A. He was still an ally at the time so bringing up early hostilities with a potential enemy would be dangerous [B]B. The small number of information that left the Soviet Union prevented the outside world from knowing the whole truth until the Soviet Union had already collapsed.[/B][/QUOTE] THAT WAS THE SAME THING WITH JAPAN AND GERMANY. We didn't know about the Holocaust camps until our troops started finding them. And A is always brought up because it can be argued its because of our lack of action in the wester front that lead to the Cold war. Stalin killed plenty of people before Hitler was even in power.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;38191716]I have yet to meet a gypsy who ain't a stealing douchebag. Tell me whatever the fuck you want about them not being all like that and their culture being cool, I'm glad we're getting rid of them, that's what the french people wanted, that's what we got, yeepikai democracy. This being said, no group of people deserve to be slaughtered like they were. I just don't like their way of life and their behavior is so terrible I don't feel an ounce of empathy towards them.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;38191826]Except I know great blacks, great arabs, great asians and great white people. Either I'm shit out of luck or the majority thinking this is right : I still haven't met a nice gypsy. The only sort of wisdom I got from them was a punch in my face because I dared looking at him for a few seconds.[/QUOTE] I haven't met a good Muslim therefore all Muslims must be towel heads and terrorists, they all live in the sand and are sand people and speak gibberish and are bad! So killing them would be OK! :downs: This is how you sound. If you even understand what I'm saying. And it's extremely ignorant.
[QUOTE=Dbuhos;38221330]Fucking americans, you don't even know what gypsies are. They are a whole different fucking deal in Europe, they will rob you, they will bribe the police to make you jam cock in ass because they are so rich and lastly they will hunt you down and beat you to the pulp for daring to take action in the first place. Sure, some of them are cool (3%) but the other are the vermin of the country. They refuse proper jobs because they are too lazy to work by Jupiter's cock and just to make everything more fun they refuse to let their kids go to fucking school and have an education, they use them as begging bait and after they get their money they will go to another country to leech off it. They will suck money out said country and then get deported, given money to live a life where they came from. What do you think they do with the money ? They go the fuck back, continuing to stain the name of the country they were born it. They should all be hauled back to the place they came from, India or forced to work in the god damned industry.[/QUOTE] You have come into a thread about a holocaust memorial and started advocating forcing ethnic groups into workcamps, [b][i]reevaluate your opinions[/i][/b].
[QUOTE=Rents;38222139]You have come into a thread about a holocaust memorial and started advocating forcing ethnic groups into workcamps, [b][i]reevaluate your opinions[/i][/b].[/QUOTE] Don't even bother arguing logic these people are different from everyone else, they don't fit in right. These people that agree with putting ethnic groups to work... I think we should put them to work in the coal mines.
[QUOTE=Rents;38222139]You have come into a thread about a holocaust memorial and started advocating forcing ethnic groups into workcamps, [B][I]reevaluate your opinions[/I][/B].[/QUOTE] I don't think he meant workcamps and actually meant a regular job. Like "force them to work for the same benefits as regular working people".
[QUOTE=Kljunas;38219211]Even though this post is dumb it's not racism. The generalisation here is based on a lifestyle and not on an ethnicity.[/QUOTE] gypsies are an ethnicity though in the UK the word doesn't necessarily apply to Roma, most people called gypsies are either Roma or Irish Travelers which are both ethnicities
[QUOTE=Kljunas;38219211]Even though this post is dumb it's not racism. The generalisation here is based on a lifestyle and not on an ethnicity.[/QUOTE] I'm afraid it crosses that line when you start claiming how even walking into an area where they live will [I]get you murdered.[/I]
[QUOTE=Megafan;38225617]I'm afraid it crosses that line when you start claiming how even walking into an area where they live will [I]get you murdered.[/I][/QUOTE] Well not murdered, but you'd have to be fucking retarded to get near the places where gypsies live during the night. You'd most likely get beaten up and mugged (at least here, dunno about the other places). Someone should post those pics from Slovakia where gypsies inhabited that one commiebloc.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38225721]Well not murdered, but you'd have to be fucking retarded to get near the places where gypsies live during the night. You'd most likely get beaten up and mugged (at least here, dunno about the other places). Someone should post those pics from Slovakia where gypsies inhabited that one commiebloc.[/QUOTE] That's not the point, and even if it was that's not what he said. It was clear discrimination.
[QUOTE=Megafan;38225617]I'm afraid it crosses that line when you start claiming how even walking into an area where they live will [I]get you murdered.[/I][/QUOTE] Uhm... That isn't too far from the truth. Some places here are a real no go because if you aren't a regular there and know someone, you will get people going through your pockets. Disclaimer: I did not mention the people who go to one's pockets are necessarily gypsies, neither am I condoning genocide because they rob you. (seeing as many here read "I don't really like X" and understand "I don't like X, to the gas chambers with them!")
Holy shit this thread. People should feel ashamed.. but they won't because they're so pig ignorant.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38209069]Yeah, I grew up in Canada, and I've never heard of a Gypsy stealing; the only stereotype we have is that they're all fortune tellers. But we don't even have that many Gypsies in Toronto; most of the fortune tellers we do have are African. Like not African-American, but straight from Africa. It's interesting how dark the skin can be on a person from Africa. Like pitch black.[/QUOTE] Actually, Canada does have an unfortunate problem with Roma (I hate political correctness as much as the next person, but honestly guys they're Roma and not Gypsies) criminals from Eastern Europe. Especially in the last few years, Roma have immigrated to Canada from Hungary and Romania as refugees. Currently the government is trying to 'close the loophole' allowing them to come in under these circumstances, but honestly discrimination against these people very real. And, yes, I'm going to let myself be trolled by idiots on Facepunch (like the pillock that I am), to address the idiots who seem to believe that Roma have some genetic glitch that makes 97% of them total klepto-maniacs, you could not be more wrong. There are all kinds of sociological explanations as to why Roma are predisposed to crime. Think of the economic and social discrimination they face; they're visible minorities that speak a different language with a funny accent with a different culture. They're excluded from society simply on the basis that they are not 'one of us'. They have no access to channels of power or to other communities based on stereotypes that are as old as the Roma themselves. They're nomadic, duh, which means they don't naturally fit into the sedentary nation-state thing the rest of us have going. Without the networks that other ethnicities have established in Europe, they have no access to jobs or education, and they're traditional way of life doesn't seem to be working for anyone anymore. It's no wonder they're pre-dispose to crime, but not for the idiot racist reasons listed. [B]Discrimination forces people into crime, not the other way around.[/B] Speaking of which, to the folks who seem to think that the Roma are degenerates, what has your nation-state done for you lately? Clearly it's failed to smack the ignorance out of you since it's obviously reinforced in public space that Roma are natural criminals. Seriously, get out from under your bridge and get a real education. tl;dr - I have been trolled.
Except that wall of text is utter bullshit because Romani people get free education + healthcare + electricity + water + houses, yet they still manage to fuck it up and they revert to their old style of life and blame it on everyone else how they are discriminated. Not to mention they get all that free shit in post war Balkans. Also you have to realize that I don't hate all of them like you guys make it sound. If someone is friendly and kind to me, I don't really give a damn about his origins or color or whatever.
This thread and the other one filled with Hitler sympathizers has me worry for Facepunch. This thread is fucking disgusting with some of its replies.
Pikey's are the most disgusting and vile creatures you will ever meet. They go to school for a week they go into your class. "Here's Paddy and Martin be nice" everyone mocks their bowlcutty bonce and within 15 mins they knocked someone's teeth out, picked up the golden fillings and have smelted them down in their caravans. All the while Mary gets her saggy tits out for big old Paddy. Then weekends out come the rag and bone shite, in their stolen shitty Ford Transits with some bell knicking all the metal and bikes they can get their hands on.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;38236491]This thread and the other one filled with Hitler sympathizers has me worry for Facepunch. This thread is fucking disgusting with some of its replies.[/QUOTE] It's seriously like travelling back in time to a circa 1930s German peoples forum (forum as in the literal sense) discussing how vile Jews are and how everyone has had all these terrible experiences with the jew menace. Shit is straight out of a history book.
That's weird, I felt like I have gone back in time to year 1066 in this thread. Some of you people harbor antagonisms that are seen and recorded from fucking [b]centuries ago.[/b] You think you've lived a better society? Bullshit, some of you still have the mindsets of people living in the Dark Age.
[QUOTE=Papoose;38236499]Pikey's are the most disgusting and vile creatures you will ever meet. They go to school for a week they go into your class. "Here's Paddy and Martin be nice" everyone mocks their bowlcutty bonce and within 15 mins they knocked someone's teeth out, picked up the golden fillings and have smelted them down in their caravans. All the while Mary gets her saggy tits out for big old Paddy. Then weekends out come the rag and bone shite, in their stolen shitty Ford Transits with some bell knicking all the metal and bikes they can get their hands on.[/QUOTE] fun fact: this is actually how people see gypsies and its dumb
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