• It's Official: Ea is the Worst Company in America
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They're only popular because they buy out all the best developers. Nobody buys their products because they like EA or Origin. They buy them because they either fork out and get a game made by good devs or don't get to play them at all.
[QUOTE=Ermac20;35427365]origin is the biggest piece of shit on the planet though[/QUOTE] Because that's not hyperbolic sensationalist bullshit in the slightest right? Origin is nowhere near as bad as most of you make it out to be. Half the problems can be attributed to the fact Origin is fairly new (I know it's based off EADM, but the download manager part works fine, it's the rest that is buggy). The fact EA seem to be too tight to invest in more authentication servers from time to time. And the fact you had a hate-boner for it before you even fucking touched it, distorting your view of it. It's more lightweight than Steam, has less functionality than Steam (not always a bad thing) and is quite simple to use. So what it only holds EA games? Not every publisher is suddenly going to start their own, they would have done that years ago when Steam picked up. There are many, many worse things on the planet than Origin. Stop this hyperbollic hatedom over a fucking application. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;35427449]Such a nice consumer you are, and 90% of EA's shit is what they bought and milked, they barely make anything themselves.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but you clearly don't understand how publishing works. You don't make games yourself as a publisher, you buy, create and combine [B]developers[/B] to makes games for your company to [B]publish[/B]. You give he developers funding for their game, and take a cut of the profits when you finally publish the game. Very few publishers have first party studios, most of their developers are third parties (like DICE, IW, Volition, etc.). Can you even list enough "shit" games published by EA to balance out the good? Careful where you tread with this mind, as quality is entirely subjective, so your answer will always be wrong.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;35427143]all votes by raging ME3 fans lol[/QUOTE] To be fair, while the vast majority of the game was pretty good the ending is such utter garbage it manages to make the entirety of ME1, ME2 and ME3 up to the last 5 minutes feel pointless. For those who don't know how bad that is, we're talking about 80-90 hours of gameplay with the main selling point being that your choices carry over and affect the outcome being "nullified" by about 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;35427452]Why was Bank of America even on the list? I've had an account there for years, and they even dropped a fee when I accidentally over drafted. Is it because of the whole, "Occupy" thing?[/QUOTE] yeah lol how dare people want financial equality
[QUOTE=hexpunK;35427461]Can you even list enough "shit" games published by EA to balance out the good? Careful where you tread with this mind, as quality is entirely subjective, so your answer will always be wrong.[/QUOTE] By that logic, I can say that you are wrong for saying EA has any good quality games since that would just be your opinion.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;35427461]Because that's not hyperbolic sensationalist bullshit in the slightest right? Origin is nowhere near as bad as most of you make it out to be. Half the problems can be attributed to the fact Origin is fairly new (I know it's based off EADM, but the download manager part works fine, it's the rest that is buggy). The fact EA seem to be too tight to invest in more authentication servers from time to time. And the fact you had a hate-boner for it before you even fucking touched it, distorting your view of it. It's more lightweight than Steam, has less functionality than Steam (not always a bad thing) and is quite simple to use. So what it only holds EA games? Not every publisher is suddenly going to start their own, they would have done that years ago when Steam picked up. There are many, many worse things on the planet than Origin. Stop this hyperbollic hatedom over a fucking application. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] Sorry, but you clearly don't understand how publishing works. You don't make games yourself as a publisher, you buy, create and combine [B]developers[/B] to makes games for your company to [B]publish[/B]. You give he developers funding for their game, and take a cut of the profits when you finally publish the game. Very few publishers have first party studios, most of their developers are third parties (like DICE, IW, Volition, etc.). Can you even list enough "shit" games published by EA to balance out the good? Careful where you tread with this mind, as quality is entirely subjective, so your answer will always be wrong.[/QUOTE] EA owns a lot of its developers... However they are not the worst company out there. At least EA is backing off on the DRM. Unlike Ubisoft who keep trying to one up themselves on fucking over people.
Wal-mart needs to be the winner of this title, not EA, EA may be a shit company based entirely upon profit, but Wal-mart runs fucking local stores out of business in smaller towns because they offer mediocre items at slightly lower prices.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;35427461] Sorry, but you clearly don't understand how publishing works. You don't make games yourself as a publisher, you buy, create and combine [B]developers[/B] to makes games for your company to [B]publish[/B]. You give he developers funding for their game, and take a cut of the profits when you finally publish the game. Very few publishers have first party studios, most of their developers are third parties (like DICE, IW, Volition, etc.). Can you even list enough "shit" games published by EA to balance out the good? Careful where you tread with this mind, as quality is entirely subjective, so your answer will always be wrong.[/QUOTE] Uhh, EA bought DICE, they own them, same as most of the games "published" by them. And soon EA imposes their shit, the studio sinks and everyone gets fired, back to buying another one, and the cycle repeats.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;35427451]Why? For wanting to compete with Steam?[/QUOTE] Origin is only standing upright because of exclusive titles, that's not competition at all. If someone decides to "tear apart" your gaming library at the end of the trilogy, there better be some damn good reasons behind that. And considering Steam has been setting an example you could've observed for so long and EA has so many resources, Origin did pretty terrible on release and only survived because of aforementioned exclusive titles, not because it's got innovative features that put it ahead of Steam in certain areas. On topic, EA is probably not the worst company out there, but you wouldn't determine that with a poll anyway. Any poll like this has a certain demographic, certain kinds of users that go on these sites. Avid videogame players are more likely to stumble across such a site than their grandma for example. That's why good statistics take votes from all sorts of demographic groups and evaluate their percentages based on how big the demographic groups are in the entire town/nation/world. But yeah, EA is treating its employees and frequently customers like dirt.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;35427461]Because that's not hyperbolic sensationalist bullshit in the slightest right? Origin is nowhere near as bad as most of you make it out to be. Half the problems can be attributed to the fact Origin is fairly new (I know it's based off EADM, but the download manager part works fine, it's the rest that is buggy). The fact EA seem to be too tight to invest in more authentication servers from time to time. And the fact you had a hate-boner for it before you even fucking touched it, distorting your view of it. It's more lightweight than Steam, has less functionality than Steam (not always a bad thing) and is quite simple to use. So what it only holds EA games? Not every publisher is suddenly going to start their own, they would have done that years ago when Steam picked up. There are many, many worse things on the planet than Origin. Stop this hyperbollic hatedom over a fucking application. [/QUOTE] The biggest problems I have with Origin is that it offers far less functionality than steam, far less games, isn't as easy to use and overall doesn't give me any incentive to use it whatsoever. I know it's not had as much time as steam but for example adding people to friends while ingame isn't possible (at least in ME3 it isn't, I have no reason to think it will work in other games) and having a far less intuitive or easy to use UI are things that shouldn't happen anywhere outside of alpha builds. Calling it the worst thing on the planet is retarded, but it's hardly defendable as being good. As for taking less resources: [t]http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/joost1702/origin_vs_steam.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=mysteryman;35427166]It's kind of hard when they are almost a monopoly.[/QUOTE] not even close lmao The Consumerist is garbage anyways and this silly poll just solidifies that
EA isn't even nearly the worst company in the US what the fuck
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;35427179]Worst Company In America? That sounds a bit hyperbolic. . .There's no way they're worse than Bob's Rapewagon Emporium & Ether Candy Supply Outlet in Biloxi, Mississippi.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? Those guys have [i]fantastic[/i] customer service.
I feel they deserve this for telling the battlefield community they're too stupid to use the Frostbite 2 SDK, yet if it was released we'd probably see some awesome BF3 mods. Mother fuckers at EA understand what they're doing, and I hope it bites them in the ass like a rabid dog.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;35427682]I feel they deserve this for telling the battlefield community they're too stupid to use the Frostbite 2 SDK, yet if it was released we'd probably see some awesome BF3 mods. Mother fuckers at EA understand what they're doing, and I hope it bites them in the ass like a rabid dog.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between saying they're too stupid and saying that the mod tools are too complicated.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35427697]There's a difference between saying they're too stupid and saying that the mod tools are too complicated.[/QUOTE] It's implied. They never said people were stupid, but they were obviously trying to word it so it didn't appear as such, but in the end did. Besides, if they're too complicated, how would anyone know considering they're not public? DICE says it's complicated, but that doesn't mean a thing if people are determined to make something. Essentially, DICE are electronic wizards with their software but the average modder would be dumbfounded? I doubt this.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;35427086]and people still eat their shit like it's the best, seriously, complaining about a company being shit and making shit games and going on to buy all the shit they make isn't the right way to make a point.[/QUOTE] That's because they are publishing a lot of games, many which aren't shit. I think it's more relevant to perhaps talk about their methods of gaining revenue, instead of bashing on the games.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35427697]There's a difference between saying they're too stupid and saying that the mod tools are too complicated.[/QUOTE] No, it's because creation kits make no money, but DLC's do.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35427697]There's a difference between saying they're too stupid and saying that the mod tools are too complicated.[/QUOTE] There isn't much of a difference. If people can hack games and make mods for games that do not have sdk, I am sure people could figure out how to use a complicated sdk. Or do they think that sdk too has to be easy enough for a common joe to use? Then we'd see no sdks at all.
[QUOTE=Simski;35427335]People outside of America was allowed to vote, not many people outside of America gives a flying fuck about Wallmart of Bank of America though.[/QUOTE]Bank of America is the third largest company in the world, and has thousands of subsidiaries. Wal-Mart is the largest retailer in the world, like BoA has a myriad of subsidiaries. Wal-Mart, being a monopsonist behemoth that encourages it's suppliers to undergo self defeating practices and destroys local economies. Bank of America being one of the reasons the economy went down the shitter.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;35427622]Origin is only standing upright because of exclusive titles, that's not competition at all.If someone decides to "tear apart" your gaming library at the end of the trilogy, there better be some damn good reasons behind that. And considering Steam has been setting an example you could've observed for so long and EA has so many resources, Origin did pretty terrible on release and only survived because of aforementioned exclusive titles, not because it's got innovative features that put it ahead of Steam in certain areas.On topic, EA is probably not the worst company out there, but you wouldn't determine that with a poll anyway. Any poll like this has a certain demographic, certain kinds of users that go on these sites. Avid videogame players are more likely to stumble across such a site than their grandma for example. That's why good statistics take votes from all sorts of demographic groups and evaluate their percentages based on how big the demographic groups are in the entire town/nation/world.But yeah, EA is treating its employees and frequently customers like dirt.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying Origin is as good as Steam. I would easily say that Steam is infinitely better. Origin just isn't material to consider EA "worst company."
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;35427451]Why? For wanting to compete with Steam?Only reason I dislike it is because EA decided to make future published games like Mass Effect 3 and Battlefield 3 only on Orign and not on Steam, thus dispeesing my library among services, and I can almoat guarentee there won't be any 75% off sales, let alone at an already lowered price.[/QUOTE] Didn't hear anyone complain when Valve made HL2 steam only. You need exclusives to get people hooked on your platform, it's that simple.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35427904]Didn't hear anyone complain when Valve made HL2 steam only.[/QUOTE]Uhh, quite a lot did.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35427904]Didn't hear anyone complain when Valve made HL2 steam only. You need exclusives to get people hooked on your platform, it's that simple.[/QUOTE] I did. Lots of people. Steam was hated. The difference was that Valve were quick to improve the platform.
RIP Westwood. :(
I don't think I've bought a game that has gone (profits-wise) through EA since 2005. I probably have (As they're so big), but I haven't consciously bought anything from them.
After that Battlefield 3 fiasco, I won't be buying anything EA any longer. They took a dog turd, sprayed it with gold, added lots of bloom with more blue and brown, marketed it with millions of dollars, deliberately claimed gameplay features not featured and sold it to us with a whopping $60 price tag. Some people thought the dog turd smelled too much, but to fix it, EA simply sprayed it with perfume
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35428063]After that Battlefield 3 fiasco, I won't be buying anything EA any longer. They took a dog turd, sprayed it with gold, added lots of bloom with more blue and brown, marketed it with millions of dollars, deliberately claimed gameplay features not featured and sold it to us with a whopping $60 price tag. Some people thought the dog turd smelled too much, but to fix it, EA simply sprayed it with perfume[/QUOTE] What made me angry last night was I figured out I can't play my brother's copy online because you need an online pass. On top of needing Live to play online for 360, you need to shell out $10 to get a code [b]allowing you[/b] the multiplayer portion of the game. That should be fucking illegal. What if you lose an account that had the code attached to it, you'd have to pay $10 to get [b]your[/b] game back. Son of a bitch EA.
Just as a point, this was conducted by [B]Consumer[/B]ist. Its not about its impact on the industry, or its corruption, or any of that. It is solely about the consumer. So if you're wondering why Bank of America didn't win or Walmart or something like that, just remember that this is about the consumers. BoA is horrible and a shining example of corruption and filth, but that has little to do with the consumers. Walmart fucks over everyone involved with it, abuses its employees, and crushes small businesses, but it is a marvel as a consumer looking for diverse goods and cheap products.
It is not long until there are only 4 major game companies left. EA, Ubisoft, Activision and Valve. Might even lose one of them.
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