• Vatican: stoning in Iran adultery case 'brutal'
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Hey guys, I think that child molestation is 'brutal' too, rate me hearts. Derp derp. Just because it's the 'Vatican' taking a stand on this issue, doesn't make it any different. And the problem is, most of the fucking priests and clerics there hurt children, which in my opinion is just as bad as stoning. They're taking this up to seem 'better' to those around them.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24642069]And the problem is, most of the fucking priests and clerics there hurt children, which in my opinion is just as bad as stoning.[/QUOTE] Most of them? Really, now?
Holy shit. A reason [i]not[/i] to hate the Vatican!?
[QUOTE=Micr0;24642183]Holy shit. A reason [i]not[/i] to hate the Vatican!?[/QUOTE] More like a reason to reconsider the intensity of hate.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;24641616][URL="http://bible.logos.com/passage/nasb/2%20Timothy%203.16-17"]2 Timothy 3:16-17[/URL], "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, That says ALL scripture. So according to the bible it is still meant to be taken literally.[/QUOTE] [quote]teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness[/quote] Neither of the mentioned applications is applying. Even through some parts of the bible may be void now, they are still useful for lectures, as actually was mentioned in the citation you posted. [editline]04:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sickle;24642069]Hey guys, I think that child molestation is 'brutal' too, rate me hearts. Derp derp. Just because it's the 'Vatican' taking a stand on this issue, doesn't make it any different. And the problem is, most of the fucking priests and clerics there hurt children, which in my opinion is just as bad as stoning. They're taking this up to seem 'better' to those around them.[/QUOTE] That's bullshit. There is like a dozen actually confirmed assaults.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24642406]Neither of the mentioned applications is applying. Even through some parts of the bible may be void now, they are still useful for lectures, as actually was mentioned in the citation you posted.[/QUOTE] Exactly. For example, Exodus 21 is perfect for teaching how fucking stupid and evil the people who wrote the bible were. [editline]04:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24642406]Neither of the mentioned applications is applying. Even through some parts of the bible may be void now, they are still useful for lectures, as actually was mentioned in the citation you posted. [editline]04:50PM[/editline] That's bullshit. There is like a dozen actually confirmed assaults.[/QUOTE] If by a dozen you mean over two hundred deaf children confirmed to have been molested in one instance alone, sure, and at least five percent of priests confirmed to have been molesters by the Vatican itself, sure.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24642461]Exactly. For example, Exodus 21 is perfect for teaching how fucking stupid and evil the people who wrote the bible were. [/quote] Exodus 21 was at it's time like the easiest standard. Others enforced even worse laws, or no laws at all. Pushing anything better would be hardly possible. [quote] If by a dozen you mean over two hundred deaf children confirmed to have been molested in one instance alone, sure, and at least five percent of priests confirmed to have been molesters by the Vatican itself, sure.[/QUOTE] Give me confirmed sources please.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24642871]Exodus 21 was at it's time like the easiest standard. Others enforced even worse laws, or no laws at all. Pushing anything better would be hardly possible. Give me confirmed sources please.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases[/url] lol Oh yes, because it's impossible to have people not enslave each other. I mean, sure God killed almost everything in the fucking world and destroyed entire cities, but I mean he's no miracle worker.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24642976][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases[/url] lol Oh yes, because it's impossible to have people not enslave each other. I mean, sure God killed almost everything in the fucking world and destroyed entire cities, but I mean he's no miracle worker.[/QUOTE] It was stated that the great flood was the last direct intervention. Generally, since then, humanity was left to do whatever we want.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24643132]It was stated that the great flood was the last direct intervention. Generally, since then, humanity was left to do whatever we want.[/QUOTE] Source
And now you have shown how shitty troll you are. [quote]"We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases"[/quote] In between 1.5% and 5% over 50 years doesn't by any means say that 5% of clerics are confirmed child molesters. [editline]05:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sickle;24643199]Source[/QUOTE] [quote]Genesis 9:11 (New International Version) 11 I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."[/quote] This is somewhat specific, but as great flood is the worst thing people of that age could ever imagine, it generally means no more global intervention.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24643132]It was stated that the great flood was the last direct intervention. Generally, since then, humanity was left to do whatever we want.[/QUOTE] oh, except for those plagues inflicted on the Egyptians right or when he impregnated mary or when he sent those bears to kill all those children or when he blew the fuck out of soddom [editline]05:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24643212]And now you have shown how shitty troll you are. In between 1.5% and 5% over 50 years doesn't by any means say that 5% of clerics are confirmed child molesters. [editline]05:19PM[/editline] This is somewhat specific, but as great flood is the worst thing people of that age could ever imagine, it generally means no more global intervention.[/QUOTE] Oh cry me a river you nancy I was responding to you saying that there were only twelve cases of child molestation, and I've proven that that's a load of bullshit and that you don't know the first thing about the actual situation. oh so no global intervention well good because making the people who worship him directly not keep slaves wouldn't be global so it's all fine for everyone
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;24640964]Oh please. The first 500 years when Christians were hated pretty much everywhere, generations of them usually died in horrifying ways, and when they didn't get murdered, they lived poor and isolated from other communities. This is undeniable, as it's stated even in historical sources of those who actually participated on murdering them (Muslims).[/QUOTE] This has absolutely noting to do with my post about Christianity. Unless you think that because it didn't just adapt to western opinions in between 0-500AD has any bearing whatsoever on modern western Christianity [editline]01:31AM[/editline] why are we arguing about the bible everyone who is educated knows religion is crap
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24643369]oh, except for those plagues inflicted on the Egyptians right or when he impregnated mary or when he sent those bears to kill all those children or when he blew the fuck out of soddom [/quote] Neither of those are global interventions. [quote] Oh cry me a river you nancy [/quote] Better and better [quote] I was responding to you saying that there were only twelve cases of child molestation, and I've proven that that's a load of bullshit and that you don't know the first thing about the actual situation. [/quote] I didn't say there was 12 causes of child molestation, but like dozen of actual cases of confirmed child molesters between clerics. Way to twist my words. [quote] oh so no global intervention well good because making the people who worship him directly not keep slaves wouldn't be global so it's all fine for everyone[/QUOTE] Because either there would be attempt to press a law nobody would care about, because it would be completely unthinkable at the moment, or there could be law much better than others, which would actually have some effect on the people.
Why can't we just acknowledge that the Vatican did something nice instead of just pointing back some stupid incident and note the irony.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;24629142]Yeah but it doesn't matter because the bible is full of contradictions anyway.[/QUOTE] No contradiction, Jesus just likes stoning people. [editline]07:45PM[/editline] This bloke who goes to my local uni says he was a stoner.
One thing I just want to interject into this potential firestorm: If you criticize the church, criticize them for what they actually believe in, not [u]what you think they believe in[/u]. Otherwise you're just being an idiot.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;24645389]Why can't we just acknowledge that the Vatican did something nice instead of just pointing back some stupid incident and note the irony.[/QUOTE] Because people would rather hate the Catholic Church. It's fashionable these days.
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