The OUYA is real - development console unboxing video released
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[QUOTE=Joeyl10;39008279]I want to see the OUYA do well because of it's open nature. Surely that grabs the interest of a few aspiring game devs?[/QUOTE]
If anything that would just turn game devs off. Wouldn't it being open platform open it up to a lot more piracy than a closed console like 360 or PS3?
I'm not saying that 360 and PS3 has no pirating, but it's harder to do so on those consoles than it is to do on an open PC or an open console like the ouya. It's harder to pirate thus less people do it.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39012016]
I'm making a point saying I don't need some $1500 Home Theater PC when I have a more than capable machine sitting in my own room.[/QUOTE]
Except an HTPC that can run some games and 1080p 5.1 movies is probably $300 or something? Or you can just get a PS3.
Or you can just get one of those "Smart TV" dongles that can stream 1080p video from your PC wirelessly and also let you browse the net and watch YouTube.
I bought one just so I could have a nice little emulation box to carry around the friends and events. The video game society at my uni has regular meet ups so I thought it would be something cool to just take along every week and get people sitting round and playing ye ole SNES and genisis games.
can this thing support a ps3 controller
[QUOTE=Van-man;39004504]There's barely a decent PS2 emulator for PC.[/QUOTE]
I've played games I never played on PS2 before on PCSX2 and it worked flawlessly, like they were PC games like Half Life. And this was in like 2009.
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[QUOTE=Van-man;39004537]PCSX2 still doesn't run Gran Turismo 4 without all kinds of tweaking,
That's the make-or-break game for me.[/QUOTE]
a racing game that can be replaced by any other racing game?
Y'know, I want to be excited about this, but it just seems so... shitty.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39012523]Except an HTPC that can run some games and 1080p 5.1 movies is probably $300 or something? Or you can just get a PS3.[/QUOTE]
And the OUYA is more than capable of running 1080P 5.1 movies and it's $99. Also the PS3 does not support all the formats needed for a home theater PC.
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[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;39012585]Or you can just get one of those "Smart TV" dongles that can stream 1080p video from your PC wirelessly and also let you browse the net and watch YouTube.[/QUOTE]
But it will lack development support from the Android tinkering community since there are so many of those cheap Android dongles. It will also lack hardware acceleration support for XBMC most likely and it will not come with the gaming controller.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39012950]...
But it will lack development support from the Android tinkering community since there are so many of those cheap Android dongles. It will also lack hardware acceleration support for XBMC most likely and it will not come with the gaming controller.[/QUOTE]
It's all cheap generic ARM crap, half of these things probably have the exact same GPU in them (or related variants)
And the controller is a cheap USB thing, I don't consider it a selling point (I'd rather use my wired 360 controller anyway)
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;39012585]Or you can just get one of those "Smart TV" dongles that can stream 1080p video from your PC wirelessly and also let you browse the net and watch YouTube.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't Steam Big Picture support allot of these streamers? There goes the hauling the PC to the TV room argument
I never knew that, interesting. You plug a dongle into your PC and one into the TV and it streams the game, nice.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;39013030]It's all cheap generic ARM crap, half of these things probably have the exact same GPU in them (or related variants)
And the controller is a cheap USB thing, I don't consider it a selling point (I'd rather use my wired 360 controller anyway)[/QUOTE]
The hardware doesn't matter if there isn't software support for it. Every single Android device is different and because of that, different developers will be making different custom ROMs and different custom kernels for each device. If you get some device that doesn't sell well or you get something with a locked down bootloader, you're fucked.
They might not sound much different but they're all running different kernels. Running different proprietary drivers, running different firmware versions. I'd much rather have the Nexus 7 than a similarly specced no-named 7 inch Android tablet you would find at the flea market for $50 less.
Also the controller is just a basic bluetooth controller but because this thing has done so well on Kickstarter, I think developers will start standardizing bluetooth controls in their games with the OUYA in mind.
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[QUOTE=legolover122;39012425]If anything that would just turn game devs off. Wouldn't it being open platform open it up to a lot more piracy than a closed console like 360 or PS3?
I'm not saying that 360 and PS3 has no pirating, but it's harder to do so on those consoles than it is to do on an open PC or an open console like the ouya. It's harder to pirate thus less people do it.[/QUOTE]
Even with rampant piracy rates, these indie devs making games out of their basements by themselves and maybe a friend or two are still making massive profits if the game is truly worth the $1.99 price tag.
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[QUOTE=The Baconator;39013049]Doesn't Steam Big Picture support allot of these streamers? There goes the hauling the PC to the TV room argument[/QUOTE]
That isn't a viable solution for a family. I don't want to have to leave my computer open for everyone to use and leave it idle if someone happens to be streaming a game or a movie.
Much rather just pay the $99 for the usability, the fact that it's its own device and the true "sit on your couch" experience rather than tinkering with all this crazy streaming shit (which likely wouldn't be very great for streaming game play or high definition video.
The whole "hurr use PC it can do everything + more" argument you guys are using can be applied to all consoles. This is a cheap, user friendly, open source, fully assembled, portable console for indie games and for social gaming. Its not supposed to be a hardcore gaming system. Sure you COULD use Raspberry Pi or a dedicated PC, but this is supposed to be a simple console that works out of the box. While I don't think I would use it, I can definitely see why someone would want one.
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Point being, don't be such cynical assholes.
[QUOTE=Van-man;39005179]The only reason out TV is still a old CRT one, is because we rarely see TV in our household.
[B]BUT[/B] we have a couple of computer monitors with built-in speakers & HDMI in.
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The only thing the Pi is good for nowadays, are dicking around with the GPIO pins over a ethernet connection.
There's alternatives that are slightly more expensive, but [B]SO MUCH MORE[/B] powerful.[/QUOTE]
You really do not need much more power than what the Pi provides really, if you wanted something for its power you would just get a laptop or a desktop. Its strong enough to run anything N64/PS1 and back and can play HD video. Thats about as far as you can really get with computers of that size.
I'm putting these in my car connected to screens. Finally something that won't drain my battery besides a ps2 slim. I'm gonna mount it in too. Perfect!
[quote=op]Will it be a great all-in-one solution for homebrew users seeking to run ... emulators capable of running games from pretty much every console made before 2000 on their televisions? Definitely.[/quote]
I actually want that. I Spend all kinds of money on accessories for my PC, laptop and tablet just to run emulators on them. If I get a bluetooth controller of some sort (PS3?) then I can connect it to my Kindle and play N64 Emulators on it. I can play N64 Emulators on it regardless of blue tooth controller, but the touch screen controls are annoying.
For what it is it seems interesting. I don't have much in terms of console games given the fact my xbox broke and I don't want to shell out $300-400NZD just to play a game every now and then so this seems appealing.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;39013711]The whole "hurr use PC it can do everything + more" argument you guys are using can be applied to all consoles. This is a cheap, user friendly, open source, fully assembled, portable console for indie games and for social gaming. Its not supposed to be a hardcore gaming system. Sure you COULD use Raspberry Pi or a dedicated PC, but this is supposed to be a simple console that works out of the box. While I don't think I would use it, I can definitely see why someone would want one.
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Point being, don't be such cynical assholes.[/QUOTE]
but I need to make sure everyone knows that I personally won't be buying it! and now I'll list some obscure, more expensive alternatives to help justify this!
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39012802]I've played games I never played on PS2 before on PCSX2 and it worked flawlessly, like they were PC games like Half Life. And this was in like 2009.
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The amount of games that can be played flawlessly on PCSX2 are very few
At best its usually a mess of buggy slow software that needs a ton of hacks and constant tweaking just to get them to play at a decent pace.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;39014934]can we all agree that this is something that can be useful, but is also not revolutionary or gamechanging at all?[/QUOTE]
I would say it isn't much of a game changer in itself but the idea of bringing a "all in one box" that doesn't suck is definitely game changing in that particular market. Trust me, I've used AppleTV which is closed down to hell unless you jailbreak it. GoogleTV is just a dumbed down Android 3.0 UI and about 0.1% of the apps. Roku is nice but it still has a lot of work to do and the same goes for BoxeeBox. Every single system has its downfall and mostly it is a lack of development support, updates, over complexity or even just dumbing it down for the "lowest common denominator".
This honestly looks like it will be one of, if not the first mainstream product that will provide a great emulating/home theater experience out of the box without really having to tinker with it. Either way it is great because if you're like me and you enjoy tinkering, you'll be able to root it and rom it just like your Android phones and Android tablets.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;39014934]can we all agree that this is something that can be useful, but is also not revolutionary or gamechanging at all?[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't seem very useful at all
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39012802]a racing game that can be replaced by any other racing game?[/QUOTE]
You lookin' for all sorts'a trouble?
The only one that comes somewhat close, is the Forza series.
And I don't have a xbox360
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[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39013731]You really do not need much more power than what the Pi provides really, if you wanted something for its power you would just get a laptop or a desktop. Its strong enough to run anything N64/PS1 and back and can play HD video. Thats about as far as you can really get with computers of that size.[/QUOTE]
Considering you can get something that pimpsmacks the pi for only a little more dosh and with the same OR smaller size, I'd say the Pi is over-rated.
The only thing saving it's ass are the afromented GPIO pins.
[QUOTE=Saxon;39014930]The amount of games that can be played flawlessly on PCSX2 are very few
At best its usually a mess of buggy slow software that needs a ton of hacks and constant tweaking just to get them to play at a decent pace.[/QUOTE]
all the games i play work with very few issues.
your computer probably cant handle it (or i dont play enough ps2 games).
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39012802]
a racing game that can be replaced by any other racing game?[/QUOTE]
thats a dumb thing to say
[QUOTE=Jetblack357;39013731]You really do not need much more power than what the Pi provides really, if you wanted something for its power you would just get a laptop or a desktop. Its strong enough to run anything N64/PS1 and back and can play HD video. Thats about as far as you can really get with computers of that size.[/QUOTE]
The Pi doesnt run 1080p video really well on XBMC, especially if the filesize is over 2GB, even if the film is on the SD card. The Pi is overhyped and uses an old ARM CPU. OUYA is more expensive, but has much better specs.
I'd rather buy OUYA and put on some Linux (not android) + XBMC + FTP server + HDD
IF someone does this, I'll consider buying the OUYA as my Pi (256mb RAM, early B model) is quite underperforming IMO.
[QUOTE=Unsmart;39021471]The Pi doesnt run 1080p video really well on XBMC, especially if the filesize is over 2GB, even if the film is on the SD card. The Pi is overhyped and uses an old ARM CPU. OUYA is more expensive, but has much better specs.
I'd rather buy OUYA and put on some Linux (not android) + XBMC + FTP server + HDD
IF someone does this, I'll consider buying the OUYA as my Pi (256mb RAM, early B model) is quite underperforming IMO.[/QUOTE]
Get the ODROID U2, it's more powerful, cheaper (base is $89) and runs Ubuntu.
You all realize the PI has a much weaker GPU and CPU than a Tegra 3 SoC right?
I think a lot of you are confusing yourselves over the Raspberry Pi. It wasn't meant to be an amazingly powerful, portable computer to work as a media centre or gaming device. It was designed as a cheap platform to try and get people interested in development, both programming and hardware wise. People just happen to have adapted the Pi to more functional purposes like small web, file and media servers.
But the Ouya still won't be remotely able to compete in the gaming market. It's just not what the market is looking for. It's too weak to attract AAA developers, too open to attract big name publishers and just in general not going to appeal to anyone who isn't an enthusiast/ small developer.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39002854]Ugh, I really don't like the shape of that controller.[/QUOTE]
The triggers seem nice.
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