Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns - Polidicks

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;39156706]This would be the stupidest thing Obama could ever possibly do. I have absolutely no doubt that an executive gun ban would cause at the very least riots, and at the worst a civil war.[/QUOTE] I think the side that wants gun bans would lose pretty fast.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39156970]Well what else would you do to stop a bunch of loony rednecks running around shooting federal employees and robbing the liquor stores?[/QUOTE] Hey now, I take offense to them terms. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UwZzw.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=MR-X;39157023]This is a part of the problem here, stereotyping. People like you are the ones that want to stereotype gun-owners as nutjobs, etc. There is more to militias then what you say, they're a group of people with a common concern. If you actually did some research on the topic and educated yourself you will find that almost every state has some form of militia group.[/QUOTE] And why would they suddenly decide to start a civil war?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;39156992]'Saving one life' How about helping families which have already lost something? Or how about giving kids proper education, so they've got a chance to become something, so they are not forced to delve into crime? What of mental healthcare? What of just normal healthcare? Of all the things these spineless cowards have to speak of, it's something which only becomes relevant with the deaths of children. It's utterly disgusting, and is not true politics.[/QUOTE] The American government only helps symptoms. If you want real relief to an issue, go somewhere else. [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157028]This is genuinely what I think militia groups would do once they heard Obongo was coming for them.[/QUOTE] You are clearly a brilliant expert on America and American culture, we definitely need to heed every word of advice.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157060]The American government only helps symptoms. If you want real relief to an issue, go somewhere else.[/QUOTE] Why doesn't it solve the great five evils of society? Squalor, ignorance, want, idleness and disease?

I love hearing the "educated" opinions of facepunchers on gun debates. Then I realize half of you aren't even from the US and speak pure bullshit out of your ass.

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39156769]An executive order regarding gun control would be suicide in more ways than one and Obama knows that.[/QUOTE] He could give less of a fuck now that he has his second term, he's free to do anything he wants.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157085]Why doesn't it solve the great five evils of society? Squalor, ignorance, want, idleness and disease?[/QUOTE] Because people want immediate results. Those things take time to solve. So they put band aids on the symptoms and tell the people, "Hey! We're fixing it!!"

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;39157089]I love hearing the "educated" opinions of facepunchers on gun debates. Then I realize half of you aren't even from the US and speak pure bullshit out of your ass.[/QUOTE] uh everybody thinks their opinion is educated though

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157117]uh everybody thinks their opinion is educated though[/QUOTE] Nah, that's just an opinion :v:

Welcome to the internet where opinions are fact and sources don't matter

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;39156669]guns are a clusterfuck no matter how you deal, or dont deal with them.[/QUOTE] I don't know, it works well enough in Europe.

[QUOTE=proch;39157128]I don't know, it works well enough in Europe.[/QUOTE] Oh boy, here we go. Europe =/= America

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157049]And why would they suddenly decide to start a civil war?[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised how many people are ready for revolution even at this point.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157117]uh everybody thinks their opinion is educated though[/QUOTE] I liked you better as the mascot of LMAO threads.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157135]Oh boy, here we go. Europe =/= America[/QUOTE] Do you mean the main difference is the mentality of the people in terms of guns?

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39157149]You'd be surprised how many people are ready for revolution even at this point.[/QUOTE] Raptor has like 200 muskets. He can arm a whole village

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39157149]You'd be surprised how many people are ready for revolution even at this point.[/QUOTE] Can't prove this one way or another [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=proch;39157160]Do you mean the main difference is the mentality of the people in terms of guns?[/QUOTE] Yes. Firstly, Europe is comprised of many different nations and people with different laws and feelings toward guns. America has a unified gun culture across the country.

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39157149]You'd be surprised how many people are ready for revolution even at this point.[/QUOTE] I'm prepared for a massive economic collapse that affects the entire world and breaks the very fabric of our nation, splitting it into various despotic regimes. Do I think that's coming any time soon? No

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39156766]I bet you 20 bucks that widespread riots won't spontaneously break out.[/QUOTE] Yeah and then the Democrats lose the midterms and election gun control is a losing fight the end

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157169] America has a unified gun culture across the country.[/QUOTE] You know some of us don't appreciate being lumped in with "All americans"

[QUOTE=Marbalo;39157204]Why is 'you dont live here you just dont understand' a valid argument? Do you have to live in North Korea to know it's a tyrannical shithole? If anything, living outside of a nation offers a less biased outlook on its policies and current issues.[/QUOTE] It also means you don't have the same understanding of the policies as someone who lives under them.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157169] Yes. Firstly, Europe is comprised of many different nations and people with different laws and feelings toward guns. America has a unified gun culture across the country.[/QUOTE] Didn't mean to start anything really. I don't think I can really argue about gun control if I don't know anything about said culture. Thanks for the response though :smile:

[QUOTE=Marbalo;39157204]Why is 'you dont live here you just dont understand' a valid argument? Do you have to live in North Korea to know it's a tyrannical shithole? If anything, living outside of a nation offers a less biased outlook on its policies and current issues.[/QUOTE] Because not living a nation what are you basing your opinions on? A lifestyle you aren't living for one. A synthesis of what media and other sources tell you is going on. You don't live here is a perfect fucking argument. Just ask anyone from Compton or Detroit, they'll tell you you won't understand, and why? Because you won't. Less biased view? I'm not so sure about that either.

[QUOTE=scout1;39157213]You know some of us don't appreciate being lumped in with "All americans"[/QUOTE] Two out of every Three Americans owns a firearm, at this point your the minority.

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;39157275]Because not living a nation what are you basing your opinions on? A lifestyle you aren't living for one. A synthesis of what media and other sources tell you is going on. You don't live here is a perfect fucking argument. Just ask anyone from Compton or Detroit, they'll tell you you won't understand, and why? Because you won't. Less biased view? I'm not so sure about that either.[/QUOTE] if you need to live there to make an opinion about it, how come we have historians? [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=snapshot32;39157278]Two out of every Three Americans owns a firearm, at this point your the minority.[/QUOTE] Source?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157293]if you need to live there to make an opinion about it, how come we have historians? [/QUOTE] You should know that a great deal of history is biased, even when it's doing its best to be objective. Especially when, even with all the sources of an era are summed together doesn't add up to everything that specifically happened in said era.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157371]You should know that a great deal of history is biased, even when it's doing its best to be objective. Especially when, even with all the sources of an era are summed together doesn't add up to everything that specifically happened in said era.[/QUOTE] Which is why we have things like forensics and economic statistics to help.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39157492]Which is why we have things like forensics and economic statistics to help.[/QUOTE] "help" doesn't still give the full picture. The past is gone and done. All we have are small pieces of it as records to make judgments of off.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39157689]"help" doesn't still give the full picture. The past is gone and done. All we have are small pieces of it as records to make judgments of off.[/QUOTE] Right, and a single person in a country somehow has greater sway then somebody outside it, no matter the information they both have access to?