[QUOTE=yazrak;36840110]The ones who do that can't be considered part of the fandom and can only be considered inhuman machines that exist only to cause dread to everyone that comes across them.[/QUOTE]
Voila! The very definition of a brony.
[QUOTE=The fox;36840089]Fact is, what usually applies to fandoms and so forth, do not apply with bronies. There aren't a "small fraction" or such; This is what they all are. If anything, the small fraction are those who know how to interact socially and don't show that shit down everyone's throat 24/7/365[/QUOTE]
The same shit is said about furries and even that's not true.
I guarantee you the there are more people who just watch the show is far greater than those who make a lifestyle out of it.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;36840038]Its a small coloured badge not a huge neon sign, it probably has no noticeable effect on the camo.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I guess you gotta point, but regardless, modification of uniforms without consent is a big no-no.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36840133]The same shit is said about furries and even that's not true.
I guarantee you the there are more people who just watch the show is far greater than those who make a lifestyle out of it.[/QUOTE]
Fact is, I have not met a single furry in YEARS that has tried to push it down other peoples throat; Just today, I met a brony who did just that. Afraid that the argument that it's only a small percentage doesn't apply when it comes to bronies.
[QUOTE=cccritical;36840092]in the military you're not allowed to be 'unique' or 'express yourself' by decorating your [b]uniform[/b] however you see fit (hint: it's called a uniform for a reason)
not only does it not belong to you, but everything on it and every material it was made with was put where it is for a reason, there is never any good reason to put your own patches on it, color it however you want, or bedazzle it[/QUOTE]
If you recall correctly, nothing in my post was in regards to the soldier putting the symbol on his uniform. I was talking in general so can you be a little more careful next time? Thanks.
Now in the case of the military, yes, I agree, you shouldn't be allowed to decorate your uniform period. And that applies to things both MLP and non-MLP related. Not because I think we should not let people express themselves, but because custom designs most likely ruin the camo and make a person an easier target. And because of that, he becomes a danger to both himself and to his squad mates.
[editline]sdfg[/editline]
However...
This guy isn't wearing the patch into battle as far as we can all tell. He's in a convention. If he's not wearing it on patrol or in a combat scenario and it can be easily removed then that's ok.
[QUOTE=cccritical;36840128]it took thousands of years to get to where we are right now, we've got remote-controlled flying machines shooting at targets miles away being piloted by someone in another country
this is like a child looking at a drone, removing the wings from it and replacing them with 'cooler looking' pieces of cardboard, then saying he's improved it[/QUOTE]
you are misrepresenting my argument, that is a straw man. i'm not talking about drones and the technology that has accompanied modern military, i am referring to your point on how military doctrine is correct because it has been around for a long time. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition"]that is in no way true.[/URL]
if it makes someone happier to wear a badge to a convention, let them do it.
[QUOTE=The fox;36840158]Fact is, I have not met a single furry in YEARS that has tried to push it down other peoples throat; Just today, I met a brony who did just that. Afraid that the argument that it's only a small percentage doesn't apply when it comes to bronies.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, the only reason why you notice them more is because they are more outspoken about it. There might be hundreds of thousands of people you see in public every day that just watch the show, maybe like art around it and have a few brony friends and such and don't make a lifestyle out of it and talk about it 24/7 and try to convert people to be bronies.
Hell, not everyone at a brony con (or any con for that matter) is obsessive over it either. They might just go to have a good time.
[QUOTE=RobbL;36838893]I wouldn't have a problem with grown men being into MLP if they were a really niche group, but it's just EVERYWHERE. Even if adults obsessing over a cartoon designed for young girls wasn't weird, it's still not even very a good or unique show or anything. If aliens came to earth and connected to the internet they'd probably deduce that MLP is the greatest work of art humankind has ever produced seeing how much of the web is filled with pony related bullshit. You're given the impression from the amount of people ranting on about how much they love MLP and how many fan sites there are that's it's better than the work of all the great literary classics, the masters of classsical music, and the world's greatest scientists and philosophers, ect. It's a generic lowbrow animated tv show for kids broadcast in a few western countries. Why is it so popular? Why are people so fanatically in love with it? Why can't you find a single website without pony-related content? Why do people treat it like some revolutionary polito-philosophical international movement with it's own traditions and dogma? I don't know. Kill me.[/QUOTE]
I talked with a pony (calling them bronies implies they're bros) once and he said it's because of the superb character development. Well, let's say for one second that My Little Pony did have good character development (it doesn't). It usually takes a good season or two to actually notice something is different with a character. Do you mean to tell me these grown men watched several episodes of a little girl's TV show to figure the characters somehow act a little differently? I'd hope not. Then again, most ponies haven't even seen a single episode of My Little Pony. It's mostly just 'pro trolls' doing what they do best. Several of my friends acted like ponies for a long time, only to find out, they never really liked it. That doesn't mean there aren't people who like My Little Pony. But if those people aren't under the age of ten, they really need to get checked.
[QUOTE=Bobie;36840179]you are misrepresenting my argument, that is a straw man. i'm not talking about drones and the technology that has accompanied modern military, i am referring to your point on how military doctrine is correct because it has been around for a long time. that is in no way true.
if it makes someone happier to wear a badge to a convention, let them do it.[/QUOTE]
I said military doctrine is the way it is for a reason and changing it because you don't like its aesthetic is fucking retarded on so many levels
I don't care if he's only wearing this to conventions, he's still tampering with property of the US government, would you be totally cool if your neighbor came over one day and painted your house neon green without your permission?
[QUOTE=cccritical;36840205]I said military doctrine is the way it is for a reason and changing it because you don't like its aesthetic is fucking retarded on so many levels
I don't care if he's only wearing this to conventions, he's still tampering with property of the US government, would you be totally cool if your neighbor came over one day and painted your house neon green without your permission?[/QUOTE]
What if he removes the badge before he goes back into active service.
[QUOTE=The fox;36840158]Fact is, I have not met a single furry in YEARS that has tried to push it down other peoples throat; Just today, I met a brony who did just that. Afraid that the argument that it's only a small percentage doesn't apply when it comes to bronies.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, a gay person tried hitting on me the other. Why can't every gay just keep it to themselves?
Why?
Seriously, why?
[QUOTE=Ridge;36838940]Also non-authorized. Yet nobody complains about it.
[IMG]http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/shakyjake66/IMG_0243.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Because that is fucking badass, stupid ponies are not.
[QUOTE=cccritical;36840205]I said military doctrine is the way it is for a reason and changing it because you don't like its aesthetic is fucking retarded on so many levels
I don't care if he's only wearing this to conventions, he's still tampering with property of the US government, would you be totally cool [B]if your neighbor came over one day and painted your house neon green without your permission?[/B][/QUOTE]
yet more logical fallacies. this doesn't end does it? the circumstances of the two are entirely different - no harm was done by his actions and a patch is easily removable with little to no remain on a uniform. if it were illegal in some way to tamper with it then it can be undone easily - but simply wearing it to a convention causes literally no problems. however, painting on someone's house can cost a lot of money in replacing the coat of paint with another, and can waste a lot of time. i would feel much stronger about the latter because of the entirely different circumstances.
if anything i would imagine allowing these things to happen in public would be a good thing for the US military rather than anything else, it is a display of the 'freedom' you americans crave so much.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;36840049]You'd be surprised that's only a small fraction of the Brony Community. The only reason you hear so much about them and notice them a lot is because they are the most outspoken ones about it. Same thing applies to practically everything else.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I don't think it's a small fraction of the community. I think only a small fraction clops, but I think that a large amount obsesses over it. I see brony music, brony websites brony fan fics, brony games, brony "original characters", brony god damn everything. I have a lot more respect for people who just watch the show, rather than have a pony avatar and name and listens to the pony dubstep and spews out shit about love and tolerance
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;36840242]Yeah, a gay person tried hitting on me the other. Why can't every gay just keep it to themselves?[/QUOTE]
Being born as something =//= a stupid fad, full of people of questionable mental state of mind.
As I have a game i'm playing, and I don't want to stray too off topic, i'll end it here, though.
[QUOTE=Bobie;36840254]if anything i would imagine allowing these things to happen in public would be a good thing for the US military rather than anything else, it is a display of the 'freedom' you americans crave so much.[/QUOTE]
Freedom only applies to things [i]I[/i] like.
Why does it feel like no matter what the article is about, if it involves bronies in any way, these kinds of threads just crash and burn and eventually get resolved by a moderator.
[b]Yet people still post them.[/b]
[QUOTE=Ridge;36839012]It's almost like they're in a horrible place that lacks any sense of humanity and want an escape from it...[/QUOTE]
MLP cured my PTSD!!!
[QUOTE=Killajax;36840307]Why does it feel like no matter what the article is about, if it involves bronies in any way, these kinds of threads just crash and burn and eventually get resolved by a moderator.
[b]Yet people still post them.[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;36839928]My point in starting this thread wasn't to discuss the patch, it was to start a shitstorm about MLP and ride it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The fox;36840285]Being born as something =//= a stupid fad, full of people of questionable mental state of mind. [/QUOTE]
Missing the point. You're using the same exact fallacious arguments that homophobes use against gays.
[QUOTE=Killajax;36840307]Why does it feel like no matter what the article is about, if it involves bronies in any way, these kinds of threads just crash and burn and eventually get resolved by a moderator.
[b]Yet people still post them.[/b][/QUOTE]
i guess some people like seeing or participating in these "arguments"
and quite frankly i learn something new every time these threads pop up and the gates open
[QUOTE=The fox;36840285]Being born as something =//= a stupid fad, full of people of questionable mental state of mind.
As I have a game i'm playing, and I don't want to stray too off topic, i'll end it here, though.[/QUOTE]
people do not have control over what fads they enjoy; just like people have no choice over their sexuality.
please, the fox, explain to me how i am dumb. i'd love to hear your scientifically credible argument.
no problem you like a show no problem
but do it on your own fucking time
no disgracing military uniform like that
... holy fuck
[QUOTE=Starship;36839421]That's not the worst part, apparently it was a genuine world war 2 k98k.
Here,
[t]http://i.imgur.com/L9KGa.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
oh god sweet jesus dick on high
[QUOTE=The fox;36840285]Being born as something =//= a stupid fad, full of people of questionable mental state of mind.
As I have a game i'm playing, and I don't want to stray too off topic, i'll end it here, though.[/QUOTE]
He's not comparing being gay to being a fan of MLP, he's using an analogy to point out your stupid logic.
Also, I agree that a soldier shouldn't be putting random shit on his uniform like that. It's a goddamn uniform, you don't choose what goes on it.
At the same time, who honestly gives a fuck if a soldier or soldiers like MLP. It's not effecting their ability to do their job, why the fuck should it matter?
[QUOTE=Killajax;36840307]Why does it feel like no matter what the article is about, if it involves bronies in any way, these kinds of threads just crash and burn and eventually get resolved by a moderator.
[b]Yet people still post them.[/b][/QUOTE]
Facepunch loves ponies. That's why it's the second most popular thread with over 100 people reading.
[QUOTE=ironman17;36838983]Brony marines don't sound good at all. I'm just hoping it doesn't spread, or there'll be a lot of confused insurgents, wondering why the American soldiers like colourful horses so much. I'm not anywhere CLOSE to being an insurgent, and hopefully never will be, and even I'M confused.
Seriously, why would warriors, men of death and fighting, like something so tooth-rottingly childish and antithetic to the principle of being a fighter of mans in a horrific environment of amorality, bloodshed and uncertainty? War is a horrible place and situation; ponies have no place in it, especially since cavalry has long since been replaced by jeeps and tanks.[/QUOTE]
Because it might be the one thing that stops them from committing suicide and it's their way of escaping their harsh reality. Some others use alcohol, drugs, video games, tv, movies and so on.
It's also their reminder for humanity.
Hell, you never know if one of these brony marines gets captured by their enemies and finds out that the enemies are bronies themselves.
[QUOTE=The Unforgotten;36840272]Honestly, I don't think it's a small fraction of the community. I think only a small fraction clops, but I think that a large amount obsesses over it. I see brony music, brony websites brony fan fics, brony games, brony "original characters", brony god damn everything. I have a lot more respect for people who just watch the show, rather than have a pony avatar and name and listens to the pony dubstep and spews out shit about love and tolerance[/QUOTE]
There's a huge fan base for bronies. It's so big that a small fraction is still a huge amount. And someone can like music, art, websites, etc and not be over obsessive about the show.
I know a lot of people who just like the show, have an avatar relating to it online, enjoy some art and that's it. The people who are obsessive about are people like my roommate and his 5-6 brony friends. And I'm not kidding with that either. I used to think every brony was obsessed until I saw these guys. He and his friends all own pony merchandise (blankets, plushies, ears/horns, etc), go to brony related clubs/conventions/get togethers almost every week, have pony persona avatars, a D&D Pony Campaign, always have Equestria Daily open 24/7, drink user-created Pony-Related alcoholic mix drinks, etc. Hell, you know what they did one day while we were at Target? They went to the girl's section to look for those MLP toys that in the package so you don't know which one they are. And guess what, they actually had on their phones (probably off that blog) the spreadsheet on how to identify which one is hiding in the package based on the product code or whatever. That's overboard.
There was even a week when my roommate wouldn't stop ordering kids meals from McDonald's until he got all the MLP toys when they were having them. And he was happy when he managed to convert some girl we both knew into a brony.
That's the very definition of a dangerously obsessed person. But strangely enough, they are still a minority. It's just the amount of shit they do is annoying and it's so frequent that they look like the majority.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;36840413]Facepunch loves ponies. That's why it's the second most popular thread with over 100 people reading.[/QUOTE]
Wizu seems to think FP has a similar pro-pony conspiracy going on, you two should team up and expose the truth!!
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