Universities ban Blurred Lines on campuses around UK - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeke129;42260565]I mean sure you can just pass us off as a "social justice brigade" but I happen to think that enthusiastic consent is hot and that maybe you shouldn't be fucking drunk people unless you're already in an established relationship with them. If sex, to you, is more about the joys of manipulating people and pushing the limits of what women feel comfortable doing then you're not in it for the sex at all. You're in it for just you, and sex involving only one party isn't any fun at all. If that's what you want get a fleshlight or one of those anime pillows and at least spare another human being a bit of distress[/QUOTE] Yeah that's kinda the problem, it's not just men trying to take advantage of drunk girls, plenty of them go out with a one night stand in mind. You can cry about any kind of alcohol impairs judgement and drunk sex is always rape, but women aren't that stupid and if they're pretty lucid you can hardly stop them. You ever think the title blurred lines refers to not being sure if she's down with it or not? Inebriation, mixed signals, it ain't as simple as yes or no and the chase is a game both parties play. This kind of interaction is pretty complex and you can hardly claim outright it's non-consensual and taking advantage of women, especially when you can't tell the difference between reasonable interaction and harassment.

'i know you want it'

[QUOTE=Devodiere;42260901] You ever think the title blurred lines refers to not being sure if she's down with it or not?[/QUOTE] Doesn't that make the line "I know you want it" more sinister?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42260912]'i know you want it'[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Thlis;42260913]Doesn't that make the line "I know you want it" more sinister?[/QUOTE] Not really, seems more like the kind of thing you'd say to get a reaction, said with confidence rather than certainty. If they're playing hard to get then it works, if they're not actually into it then it should hopefully give some reaction to that effect. The entire song's meant to be sexy and seductive so if she is into it, you don't blow your chance. Half the lines might as well be copied straight from other R&B, can't take them out of context.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;42260862]...it would still be rape because the consent was given while the victim wasn't in their right mind[/QUOTE] Is this not also the case when both parties are not in their right mind? If person A is drunk and person B is drunk, and person B initiates the interaction, A is consenting while drunk. If person A is drunk but person B is not, and person B initiates the interaction, A is still consenting while drunk. So two follow-up questions: 1. What if person B decides to get drunk before initiating any interaction, with the express purpose of avoiding committing rape, and then initiates the interaction with a drunk person A? Then, from the moment these two people meet to the moment they are finished, they are both at the same level of consciousness. 2. Furthermore, if, from the perspective of person A, the events would play out exactly the same way whether or not person B was ever drunk, is the situation where B is drunk still not rape and the situation where B is not drunk still rape? If the only differences between these two events occur inside the mind of person B, so person A perceives no difference in the two events, in one of which A is a victim and in the other A is not, does this not effectively make some thoughts illegal?

rather than try to find ways to weasel around whether or not proper consent is given how about you just stick to having sex with sober women alright

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42261009]rather than try to find ways to weasel around whether or not proper consent is given how about you just stick to having sex with sober women alright[/QUOTE] I have no plans of drinking or having sex. I am just interested in your reasoning.

my reasoning is that someone who is inebriated is not in the right state of mind to give consent to some random dickhead out in the clubs or whatever. i'm not going to waste my time with your stupid hypotheticals.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42261009]rather than try to find ways to weasel around whether or not proper consent is given how about you just stick to having sex with sober women alright[/QUOTE] What, are women lacking in agency and unable to give consent unless you allow it? Proper consent has nothing to do with it, if they want to fuck on a night out you can't tell them not to. [QUOTE=Lachz0r;42261036]my reasoning is that someone who is inebriated is not in the right state of mind to give consent to some random dickhead out in the clubs or whatever. i'm not going to waste my time with your stupid hypotheticals.[/QUOTE] You don't completely lose all your senses and turn into a lemon as soon as you take one drink. The reason for hypotheticals is this is an ambiguous situation and not as simple and clear cut as drunk sex = rape.

one drink isn't inebriated

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42261070]one drink isn't inebriated[/QUOTE] Alright, this is a good line of argument. If not one drink when exactly do you lose your ability to consent then? Four, five, some girls even one is enough to flatten them, when do they become legally classified as drunk? Obviously if she's paralytic then there's no question, but when does the impaired judgement from alcohol become such a problem that even a yes doesn't count as consent? If you're a bouncer there on the scene then it's easier to tell, but this song has no details whatsoever and she could be completely sober for all you know. It ain't a clear-cut scenario and you're more pushing for it to be unconditional rape than trying to work out the reality.

if in doubt don't pull your dick out [editline]21st September 2013[/editline] just a little rhyme i invented right now

As effective as abstinence only sex ed.

well i'm not sure what you want me to say? as you said people get drunk off different amounts so i guess there is no set line on how many drinks someone can have before they're too drunk to give consent so i dunno just don't be such a horny cunt and wait until you're both sober or something. or make sure it's someone you know well enough that you's being drunk and banging isn't as much of an issue

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42255399]Are you seriously comparing a niche internet forum with an university campus?[/QUOTE] it's all he has to compare things to.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42261353]well i'm not sure what you want me to say? as you said people get drunk off different amounts so i guess there is no set line on how many drinks someone can have before they're too drunk to give consent so i dunno just don't be such a horny cunt and wait until you're both sober or something. or make sure it's someone you know well enough that you's being drunk and banging isn't as much of an issue[/QUOTE] The comparison to abstinence only is you don't take any mind to consequences, reasonable precautions or the complexity of the situation, it's just don't have sex after drinking, like anyone'd pay mind to that. Knowing your own limits, being able to recognise if someone is too far gone rather than assuming they are, and having other people intervene if it's obvious. All far more helpful than outright condemning it, and all things that are encouraged for safe hook-ups rather than vilifying them.

Good, it's a shit song and it's creepy as fuck.

literally all this means is that they wont play it in the students union. so in the case of edinburgh uni that's a grand total of 4 rooms where this song will not be played by the uni.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;42258933]I bet most of you guys have 'Busty redhead anal ripped by monster cock' in your browser history. Yet, when you aren't busy fapping to busty redheads getting ass ripped by monster cock, you're preaching about sexism/misogyny/women's rights like gospel choir boys.[/QUOTE] why in the fuck would that even matter at all? what i touch my dick to has nothing to with how i feel about women or men, especially considering that i only jerk it to fictional animal porn. i know you're trying to pull off some epic zinger about how we're all big hypocrites, but at least [I]think[/I] before you post ps sorry about the 9 hour late response, i was busy all day [editline]21st September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Hellduck;42261947]literally all this means is that they wont play it in the students union. so in the case of edinburgh uni that's a grand total of 4 rooms where this song will not be played by the uni.[/QUOTE] really no point in saying this when you consider that half of the geniuses in this thread haven't even read the article. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Creepy" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42261949]what i touch my dick to has nothing to with how i feel about women or men, especially considering that i only jerk it to fictional animal porn.[/QUOTE] this should be my title

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42261949]what i touch my dick to has nothing to with how i feel about women or men, especially considering that i only jerk it to fictional animal porn[/QUOTE] never have children or be left alone with children.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42261949]why in the fuck would that even matter at all? what i touch my dick to has nothing to with how i feel about women or men, especially considering that i only jerk it to fictional animal porn[/QUOTE] oook bud

At first I thought they banned the song because it's shit and nobody should have to hear it considering it's played every five minutes on every modern hits radio station out there, but after reading that it's for a slightly better reason I have to say I still agree with the decision

[QUOTE=thisispain;42262001]this should be my title[/QUOTE] Keep your dog on a leash pls