Tenn. Senator introduces bill making following Sharia law and by extension Islam a felony
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hmm well coil is quite wicked
[QUOTE=AaronM202;28312112][h2]2011: The year of retarded bills.[/h2][/QUOTE]
[h2]2011: The year of retarded bills made by republicans.[/h2]
Fixed
Bjork is bloody shit.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28316628]Bjork is bloody shit.[/QUOTE]
i absolutely agree with you
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia:
Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north.
Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what Sharia is, do you?
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Just because most people are Muslim in a country doesn't mean it's a sharia law fundamentalist Islamic whatever sate.
[editline]27th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hostel;28315119]Why does everyone here start foaming at the mouth and breaking out in hives when anyone mentions something negative about Islam?[/quote]
Think you're being a little melodramatic here
By a little, I mean a shitload.
And for the record, when Islam is attacked for stupid xenophobic reasons, we as decent human beings, have the right to defend it.
[quote] My concern is the manner in which Islam is practiced, do you honestly think you're doing the 1st amendment a favor by allowing Sharia Law?[/QUOTE]
There are elements of Sharia law I disagree with. But for the most part, Sharia law is rather basic. People are spooked by the word without even knowing what the fuck it means. Sharia law covers shit like washing before prayer, after using the bathroom, structure of a mosque praying session, songs, etc. There are few things in there, that are no more repulsive then American law or Christian law.
[editline]27th February 2011[/editline]
So yes, it would be a fucking breach of the first amendment if Sharia law was made into a felony
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28312186]No because Sharia law is a integral part to the practice of any form of Islam and banning it like this is grossly unconstitutional[/QUOTE]Plus, anything in Sharia law that would be illegal to practice in the US is just that: already illegal.
Yeah it wont have any effect but it's terrifying that someone in high places could propose something like this. A law that makes certain religious practices and rituals illegal. I'm sure a leader about 70 years ago did the same thing to another religion. Who was that again?
Sharia is very good for a modern society.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;28312070]it will never pass[/QUOTE]
People rate you optimistic, but you are right.
Tennessee gets a fuckton of stupid bills, but they almost universally fail miserably. It accomplishes nothing and just makes the state look bad, when in reality it is just some backwards fuck introducing shit that everyone else in the state senate hates anyways.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28324227]Sharia is very good for a modern society.[/QUOTE]
The "wash your hands after taking a crap" part is.
Does Tennessee want everyone to walk around with poo on their hands?
Democrats may have some stupid people like these guys. It's just these guys consist a majority of the Republican party.
Racist, xeno/homophobes, closeted gays, and dumb protestants.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;28312112][h2]2011: The year of retarded bills.[/h2][/QUOTE]
That's every year in America!
Okay, enforcing Sharia Law is unconstitutional(as is any religious doctrine), but enforcing people [B]not[/B] to follow Sharia Law in their personal life, is none of the government's god damn business, and the constitution says so.
Religion should be banned overall.
Hey, wait, doesn't the Tea Party usually say stuff like "The government needs to get out of our business?" Well, the holy republicans that they support keep trying to tell people what gender people can marry, what people can smoke, and constantly attempt to tell people what to believe. Seriously, fuck all of you.
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[QUOTE=johan_sm;28349654]Religion should be banned overall.[/QUOTE]
That's unconstitutional as well. What you believe in your personal life is none of the government's business.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28349654]Religion should be banned overall.[/QUOTE]
nuh-uh
[QUOTE=certified;28312355]To the people defending Sharia:
Look at Iran, Iraq, SA, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and every country north of SA. South of SA does not count as they enforce Sharia civilly (Or not at all) rather than with an iron fist/executions like SA and to the north.
Then tell me your thoughts.[/QUOTE]
What the hell? Those countries are secular.
If people want Islamic Law in a country than what is wrong with having it? Please don't tell me you guys are like anonymous and think your ways and justice are always right. Thinking like this will only lead to more problems.
yay, add more to the islamphobia train please!
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28349654]Religion should be banned overall.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your fascist opinions.
Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't everything considered wrong in Sharia law already illegal by US law? So this is redundant, with the bonus of banning a religion?
[QUOTE=dogmachines;28351836]Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't everything considered wrong in Sharia law already illegal by US law? So this is redundant, with the bonus of banning a religion?[/QUOTE]
Nah you're right on the money
I fucking hate my state.
[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;28353151]I fucking hate my state.[/QUOTE]
I hate your state too.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28349654]Religion should be banned overall.[/QUOTE]
Your title is wrong, buy a new one
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28311848]There seems to be a second page but I can't access it: [url]http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110222/NEWS02/110222081[/url]
Even for a bigoted and insane law this is way out there. It's like these people don't even consider the ramifications of what they propose, though it's probably worse if they did. The fact this is being proposed by the chairman of the caucus is pretty terrible too.[/QUOTE]
I don't even know if he was just trying to make a statement or if he was being serious with the law considering it's impossible to ban any religious activities according to every court ever
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;28311848]And lol @ the drivers exams in english law, that's just blatant ethnocentrism.[/QUOTE]
How is it ethnocentrism when English has been Tennessee's Official language since 1984, and English is the language of international travel?
And [I]why[/I] should the tests even be allowed to be administered in any language other than English to begin with? Nearly every road sign in the United States with the exception of Puerto Rico is written solely in English. Shouldn't it be a requirement that applicants take the test in English to ensure they can read the road signs? As having to take the test in any other language means you can't read the test, effectively means you can't read the read road signs, and you shouldn't be able to drive, and before we go any further, lets take into account the fact nearly every other god damn country in the world, from Egypt to Greece and China use English on their road signs under their national and local languages, along with the last time I checked, you can't take a driver license exam in Mexico in any other language apart from their official language, Spanish, which means they aren't going to cater to 'gringos' who can't read spanish by offering them tests in English, let alone all those other fucking languages several U.S. states offer their license tests in. Meanwhile why don't I hear any cries about Mexico's 'ethnocentrism', and their 'racism' against non-Mexicans? Why do I only hear that line said when it involves American states, when the entity of the United Mexican States, also known as 'Mexico' are several times more restrictive than even the most 'extreme' *cough*Arizona*cough* policies in the United States when dealing with foreigners and even non-mexicans with Mexican citizenship?!
[QUOTE=RBM11;28312425]Some states use fundamentalist Sharia politically for oppression therefore it should be banned for private religious worship.
What?[/QUOTE]
I think it's highly probable that the Republicans introducing the bill are making the same mistakes as the people you are responding to. They see Sharia as the fundamentalist-'legal system' interpretation and "justice" system that enforces Sharia law in fundamentalist islamic states.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;28361943]And [I]why[/I] should the tests even be allowed to be administered in any language other than English to begin with? Nearly every road sign in the United States with the exception of Puerto Rico is written solely in English. Shouldn't it be a requirement that applicants take the test in English to ensure they can read the road signs? As having to take the test in any other language means you can't read the test, effectively means you can't read the read road signs, and you shouldn't be able to drive, and before we go any further, lets take into account the fact nearly every other god damn country in the world, from Egypt to Greece and China use English on their road signs under their national and local languages, along with the last time I checked, you can't take a driver license exam in Mexico in any other language apart from their official language, Spanish, which means they aren't going to cater to 'gringos' who can't read spanish by offering them tests in English, let alone all those other fucking languages several U.S. states offer their license tests in. Meanwhile why don't I hear any cries about Mexico's 'ethnocentrism', and their 'racism' against non-Mexicans? Why do I only hear that line said when it involves American states, when the entity of the United Mexican States, also known as 'Mexico' are several times more restrictive than even the most 'extreme' *cough*Arizona*cough* policies in the United States when dealing with foreigners and even non-mexicans with Mexican citizenship?![/QUOTE]
Some immigrants know English but can understand their own language better, it's easier to be questioned in your own language then a foreign language.
When i go for my exam i get to choose between 3 languages:
-Dutch (ofcourse the countries language)
-English (as you said, international)
-Turkish (there are Turkish immigrants in the region i live)
They all cost equally much, so i don't see the problem.
You don't have to implement sharia law but banning an entire religion is a violation of human right.
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