• Israel Lobbyist suggests False Flag attack to force the U.S. into a war with Iran
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[QUOTE=imptastick;37812450]I did not forget Hiroshima/Nagasaki, but of course there is going to be more attention to the more recent event especially because there are so many that witnessed it or were directly affected still living.[/QUOTE] just interesting a country would sacrifice 3'200 citizens, allied citizens and allied POW's [editline]26th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Habsburg;37812336]why is america not swimming in money after two wars then?[/QUOTE] War Makes money to fund the war. Just cause it makes money doesn't mean it makes enough.
Ugh, fuck Israel. Without our financial and military support they would be NOTHING. I can't stand how our politicians universally grovel to Israeli interests and they behave as though they have the right to give us orders.
[QUOTE=geoface;37812525]just interesting a country would sacrifice 3'200 citizens, allied citizens and allied POW's[/QUOTE] Yep, a generation of people who no longer are alive, were provoked and losing troops everyday decided to use a new weapon against an opponent that they thought was a serious threat. Yes, we can look back and see it as a tragedy but it is a horrible example to judge our nation by.
[QUOTE=imptastick;37812278]Quick question have you ever been to Ghana? As in the African Nation.[/QUOTE]no why
[QUOTE=Killer900;37812168]Oh haha it's all just a big joke to you is it?[/QUOTE] you're a joke. don't post.
[QUOTE=Killer900;37812673]no why[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Killer900;37812070]Lol, except I never claimed or stated that the government committed 9/11, all I said was how the hell do we know 100% if they did it or not? You can't KNOW for sure unless you were directly involved with it, they can do whatever they want.[/QUOTE] Then applying the same logic you used in the above post you can not be sure Ghana truly exists. A lack of personal experience is not a valid argument that one should not trust the evidence of a third party. The assumption that 9/11 may be a conspiracy despite evidence otherwise is a case of flawed logic. It is the accusers job to prove their claim, not the defender. So unless a person has REAL evidence of a conspiracy, I refuse to respect the argument.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37812707]you're a joke. don't post.[/QUOTE]lol ok buddy I'll be sure to heed the advice of what some random internet nerd tells me to do. [QUOTE=imptastick;37812741]Then applying the same logic you used in the above post you can not be sure Ghana truly exists. A lack of personal experience is not a valid argument that one should not trust the evidence of a third party. The assumption that 9/11 may be a conspiracy despite evidence otherwise is a case of flawed logic. It is the accusers job to prove their claim, not the defender. So unless a person has REAL evidence of a conspiracy, I refuse to respect the argument.[/QUOTE]K you made your point rather than just telling me not to post anymore, so thanks for that.
[QUOTE=imptastick;37812604]Yep, a generation of people who no longer are alive, were provoked and losing troops everyday decided to use a new weapon against an opponent that they thought was a serious threat. Yes, we can look back and see it as a tragedy but it is a horrible example to judge our nation by.[/QUOTE] judging your government, not your nation. You're government may have different faces, but their ideals are the same, plus they've become mentally deficient. Which seems to be the norm in all countries across the board.
[QUOTE=Killer900;37812867]lol ok buddy I'll be sure to heed the advice of what some random internet nerd tells me to do.[/QUOTE] pot calling the kettle black.
[QUOTE=geoface;37812956]judging your government, not your nation. You're government may have different faces, but their ideals are the same, plus they've become mentally deficient. Which seems to be the norm in all countries across the board.[/QUOTE] I just felt that your post about 9/11 vs. Hiroshima was more of a comment on our citizens. I do agree that there is major problems with our government, but I don't think they set up 9/11.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37810467]mitt romney loves israel and all their lobbying goodness just throwing that out there for ya doneeh[/QUOTE] Yeah? And your point? Just because I may like a candidate doesn't mean I agree with everything he says. Assuming that would be ignorant.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37812991]pot calling the kettle black.[/QUOTE]well you got me there.
If they do this, we better go to war with Israel instead of Iran. Israel has become the fat kid who picks on other people to make himself feel better.
To be honest, Iran would be a better ally then Israel. I'm not saying it will ever happen but its most likely true.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37813244]To be honest, Iran would be a better ally then Israel. I'm not saying it will ever happen but its most likely true.[/QUOTE] They're both crazy religious states, the only difference is that one openly admits it and the other doesn't.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;37813299]They're both crazy religious states, the only difference is that one openly admits it and the other doesn't.[/QUOTE] Exactly, they're both shit but one is less retarded.
[QUOTE=Fangz;37813220]If they do this, we better go to war with Israel instead of Iran. Israel has become the fat kid who picks on other people to make himself feel better.[/QUOTE] I think they are more comparable to the small kid who tries to start stuff but nobody will fight because they are afraid of his big brother.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37813244]To be honest, Iran would be a better ally then Israel. I'm not saying it will ever happen but its most likely true.[/QUOTE] Pre-1979 Iran was the most western-influenced middle eastern country. While the US and co had Shah in place, Iran was the biggest ally in the region, in fact, it was the only ally, Saudi Arabia was minor.
I read through the comments in this thread just to remind myself I'm on Facepunch, where entire nations are represented by a small group of people and the stupid shit they say. [editline]26th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=imptastick;37813008]I just felt that your post about 9/11 vs. Hiroshima was more of a comment on our citizens. I do agree that there is major problems with our government, but I don't think they set up 9/11.[/QUOTE] Honestly, there is absolutely no way the government set up 9/11. How could the military, the FBI, FCC, CIA, SCP, MIB, and the Bush Administration keep it a secret for so long. And also, there were more then just Japanese civies killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Several U.S., Soviet, and British soldiers and relief corps members were killed in the bombings. They were never made aware, as they would likely have warned the civilians to evacuate.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37813635]I read through the comments in this thread just to remind myself I'm on Facepunch, where entire nations are represented by a small group of people and the stupid shit they say.[/QUOTE] Don't worry no one is judging Israeli civilians.
These guys need to stop being assholes to the people who are trying to help them. Though I'm honestly not very surprised that Israel wants Iran to fuck off. When several surrounding nations refuse peace offerings and want your race of people wiped from existence, I can imagine it being very scary.
HURR DURR FALSE FLAGS ONLY HAPPEN TO OTHER COUNTRIES!! SILLY TIN FOIL HAT WEARERS STOP QUESTIONING THINGS AND SHUT UP ALREADY!!! FREEDOM!! USA! USA! USA!
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37813915]HURR DURR FALSE FLAGS ONLY HAPPEN TO OTHER COUNTRIES!! SILLY TIN FOIL HAT WEARERS STOP QUESTIONING THINGS AND SHUT UP ALREADY!!! FREEDOM!! USA! USA! USA![/QUOTE] HURR DURR YOU ONLY HAVE 102 POSTS AND NO AVATAR SO YOUR OPINION DOESN'T MATTER YOU CRETIN SHUT UP ALREADY!!! KILTS!! SCOTLAND! SCOTLAND! SCOTLAND!
[QUOTE=Hobo4President;37813856]These guys need to stop being assholes to the people who are trying to help them. Though I'm honestly not very surprised that Israel wants Iran to fuck off. When several surrounding nations refuse peace offerings and want your race of people wiped from existence, I can imagine it being very scary.[/QUOTE] Zionist isn't a race, none of the surrounding countries have issues with Jewish people. They have ideological issues with the Israeli government.
You guys realise that america has done loads of false flag attacks in the past ? I don't think that 9/11 being a false flag attack isnt so far fetched. Especially with so much hidden information and weird shit about the whole situation.
[QUOTE=Killer900;37811370]So are you saying that you know for certain whether or not it was a false-flag op? Because honestly nobody really knows for sure except those involved and we can't really say we're 100% certain that it was or wasn't.[/QUOTE] um no everyone "knows for sure" because it's been proven and explained a million times so shut up already with your "nobody really knows..." bullshit dude, its the most annoying and spineless little defense you truthers have. you can't "know" anything for 100% fact but its useless to say when in every conceivable way something has been proven to be true [editline]27th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Axelius;37813969]You guys realise that america has done loads of false flag attacks in the past ? I don't think that 9/11 being a false flag attack isnt so far fetched. Especially with so much hidden information and weird shit about the whole situation.[/QUOTE] yes america has done false flags and no its not necessarily "far fetched" that 9/11 was an inside job, until you actually do some research and realize every stupid theory about it being a false flag is quickly and solidly explained
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37813932]Zionist isn't a race, none of the surrounding countries have issues with Jewish people. They have ideological issues with the Israeli government.[/QUOTE] All the surrounding nations refuse to accept peace offerings, even the Palestinian leaders refused to accept compromises with Israel. Even when Israel offers them more land than they had before the 1967 borders. These people hate Jews, and they want them gone so they can create a nation run by Arabs.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37813989]um no everyone "knows for sure" because it's been proven and explained a million times so shut up already with your "nobody really knows..." bullshit dude, its the most annoying and spineless little defense you truthers have. you can't "know" anything for 100% fact but its useless to say when in every conceivable way something has been proven to be true[/QUOTE]alright dude calm the fuck down no need to be a giant prick about it.
[QUOTE=Killer900;37814501]alright dude calm the fuck down no need to be a giant prick about it.[/QUOTE] there seems to be no way to get truthers like you to actually pay attention to what's right in front of your face, we might as well vent a little while we destroy you
[QUOTE=cccritical;37814557]there seems to be no way to get truthers like you to actually pay attention to what's right in front of your face, we might as well vent a little while we destroy you[/QUOTE]im not a truther. Aldo you make it sound like youre on some sort of goddamn crusade. destroy me? lol.
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