Man in my town Banned from Walmart for Life for Ad matching - Polidicks

To be fair, what if the guy did threaten the manager? Yes, they should've honored the price matching, but I feel like we won't know the whole story until the footage is released. [editline]10th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Gfoose;43132049]Okay so, I don't live in America, but I would assume Walmart has CCTV installed. Why don't they review the CCTV footage of the man and see whether his actions were indeed threatening towards management, and if this is false, charge the management with false accusations? I'm sure false accusations are illegal and Walmart head department would find this issue serious?[/QUOTE] I would think that would've had to have happened before he was charged. I don't think you can be charged just by someone claiming you did something.

[QUOTE=Appellation;43131750]Yeah, small towns get royally fucked by Walmart, if any of the local businesses try to compete, Walmart will just drop their prices to unsustainable levels until they're the only game in town.[/QUOTE] Sounds like normal competition?

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;43131672]Wal-Mart security are just there for looks. They can't physically restrain you or try to keep you in the store, or even physically force you to leave. All they can do is take note of your activity and report it to the police when they arrive.[/QUOTE] If you're in Asset Protection you can, just not as a normal associate. And then there's a bunch of rules about what exactly you can legally do.

[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;43131652]Doesn't Wal-Mart have security? Why'd he have to call the cops. Seems like someone's side isn't being told here honestly...[/QUOTE] They don't usually have security, even then rent a cops are little more than two bit thugs that think they can do the same as cops.

[QUOTE=TheKingofBees;43132331]They don't usually have security, even then rent a cops are little more than two bit thugs that think they can do the same as cops.[/QUOTE] blatantly not true

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43132338]blatantly not true[/QUOTE] In Walmart's case, their security is mainly for show.

[quote]"I go at least twice a day, once in the morning with my grandmother," he explains. Then, once again in the evening he told us. "The kids need something. I just love Walmart and that's why I go," he laughs. [/quote] I can see him being more of a nusiance if he's visiting two times or more [I]per day[/I] just to roam around, ad match and buy only if he decides he wants to. I'm fairly certain this wouldn't of been such an issue if he was visiting twice a week. It's like loitering around the supermarket just to eat the food samples. You're allowed to do it BUT sooner or later they won't put up with you coming in like clockwork to make up for not packing a lunch.

[QUOTE=pentium;43132375]I can see him being more of a nusiance if he's visiting two times or more [I]per day[/I] just to roam around, ad match and buy only if he decides he wants to. I'm fairly certain this wouldn't of been such an issue if he was visiting twice a week. It's like loitering around the supermarket just to eat the food samples. You're allowed to do it BUT sooner or later they won't put up with you coming in like clockwork to make up for not packing a lunch.[/QUOTE] It never states if he loiters or not. By the way it's said, it sounds like he's going to buy items instead of just screwing around.

[QUOTE=code_gs;43132361]In Walmart's case, their security is mainly for show.[/QUOTE] again, not true. Security is more there for loss prevention, to stop people from walking out the door with a $700 TV. Part of the reason they do it is because it affects every associates pay checks and bonuses if shit gets stolen. Theres a dood at another walmart who works on the sales floor, and whenever something gets shoplifted, he calculates how much he loses out of his paycheck and then goes and complains to the security guys.

[i]- Guy was a professional wrestler and probably looks intimidating - Guy is obsessed with getting stuff cheap/for free - Employee refuses to sell/give him something - He complains to the management - They call the police[/i] That's the relevant stuff you get from this story. You only hear his side of the story, so it's likely that he's downplaying his own role in the drama. He probably snapped at someone or acted in a threatening manner, which prompted the staff to call the police.

[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;43131639]Then stop fucking advertising price matching if you don't want people to find loopholes in it or abuse it.[/QUOTE] your DP gif is so fitting with what you typed

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43131971]Thats more of China's and Bangladesh's issue than it is Walmart's. Blame the countries that refuse to reform and the companies that sell to Walmart's warehouses, not walmart.[/QUOTE] ill blame every single part of that system equally. Wal-Mart is part of that system.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43132633]ill blame every single part of that system equally. Wal-Mart is part of that system.[/QUOTE] It's mostly due to the local politicians there. If their political system was reformed and the actual number of people the politicians depended on grew (as opposed to requiring a tiny group of supporters) then they would make start forcing through higher wages and safety regulations.

[QUOTE=SilentOpp;43131872]In most jurisdictions it is perfectly legal for store security to detain a shoplifter. All they need is probable cause. No different at all from a citizens arrest. Ex. California Code: 837. A private person may arrest another: [B]For a public offense committed or attempted in his/her presence.[/B] When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he or she has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it. They only have to get law enforcement involved once the arrest is made, if they decide to not just retrieve the merchandise and let the person go.[/QUOTE] This is true in Indiana. My friend got caught shoplifting when I was his ride and i got detained in the office as well, even though i didnt do anything. And technically i got a ban for life there too but i went back the next day and everything was fine.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43132642]It's mostly due to the local politicians there. If their political system was reformed and the actual number of people the politicians depended on grew (as opposed to requiring a tiny group of supporters) then they would make start forcing through higher wages and safety regulations.[/QUOTE] they wouldn't need to make regulations if there were no companies willing to pay workers cents an hour. we also wouldn't need cops if nobody ever committed any crime Yet again, I will blame everyone who (willingly) participates in that system equally because they are all at fault.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43132653]they wouldn't need to make regulations if there were no companies willing to pay workers cents an hour. we also wouldn't need cops if nobody ever committed any crime Yet again, I will blame everyone who (willingly) participates in that system equally because they are all at fault.[/QUOTE] Walmart exploiting cheap labour is just a symptom of the problem. You are always going to have companies doing that unless the country actually has a working political system.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43132653]they wouldn't need to make regulations if there were no companies willing to pay workers cents an hour. we also wouldn't need cops if nobody ever committed any crime Yet again, I will blame everyone who (willingly) participates in that system equally because they are all at fault.[/QUOTE] Blame the people who shop pretty much anywhere then. Nobody is going to want to buy a T-shirt made in the US thats more expensive for a negligible quality difference than one that was made in China or India. If you're just going to toss equal blame at absolutely everyone and everything involved, then pretty much every 1st world nation and everything having to do with it is at fault. but if you want to be logical and rational and only toss blame to the major contributors, then the countries with shit labor regulations and the companies actually running the sweat shops are to blame.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43132659]Walmart exploiting cheap labour is just a symptom of the problem. You are always going to have companies doing that unless the country actually has a working political system.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about the "why" of the situation, I am talking about ethics. Ethics isn't a problem of causality. Willingly participating in a system of injustice is unethical no matter who did it first or why. And while, if you really get down to it, I think it's impossible to exist in modern society without (in some indirect six-degrees-of-separation way) supporting all kinds of crazy shit, I can at least try to pick out the worst and most egregious offenders and myself choose to participate as little as I can in those systems I find objectionable. That means not shopping at fucking wal-mart.

i live in wal mart

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43132692]I'm not talking about the "why" of the situation, I am talking about ethics. Ethics isn't a problem of causality. Willingly participating in a system of injustice is unethical no matter who did it first or why. And while, if you really get down to it, I think it's impossible to exist in modern society without (in some indirect six-degrees-of-separation way) supporting all kinds of crazy shit, I can at least try to pick out the worst and most egregious offenders and myself choose to participate as little as I can in those systems I find objectionable. That means not shopping at fucking wal-mart.[/QUOTE] Shop where then? Small stores are on a heavy decline and have been for years. Integrated supermarkets are pretty much taking over.

[QUOTE=code_gs;43131805]I read the article, and it never said he came back. The manager said he felt "threatened". When Joe found out he couldn't do ad matching, he didn't come back, he was arrested right there.[/QUOTE] [Quote]"When I left, he turned around and called the Pinal County Sheriff's Office and said he felt intimidated and threatened. I was upset, but never once did I say anything to the gentleman," Joe says of the incident. Joe says when [B] he went back to Walmart four days later, three deputies handcuffed him, gave him a court summons[/B]and a notice banning him from any Walmart in the world for life.[/Quote] [editline]10th December 2013[/editline] Something just doesn't seem right

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43132731]Shop where then? Small stores are on a heavy decline and have been for years. Integrated supermarkets are pretty much taking over.[/QUOTE] i shop at thrift stores (also cheaper than wal-mart) and local supermarkets. i mean if someone lives in the middle of nowhere where their literal only option for certain things they need is wal-mart then I don't hold that against them but most of us in this thread have some degree of liberty when deciding where we shop. If not buying some luxury because I pay slightly more for necessities is the cost of having a slightly clearer conscience then I am happy to pay that cost.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;43131665]lol[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/files/2012/08/abcnews_generic.jpg[/IMG]

When I worked at Walmart I had a big dude punch in the screen on the self checkout and start shouting and no one called the police.

[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;43131652]Doesn't Wal-Mart have security? Why'd he have to call the cops. Seems like someone's side isn't being told here honestly...[/QUOTE] Wal-Mart has an agreement with the federal and most state governments that promote the placement of a police vehicle on the Wal-Mart premises, usually the parking lot, because of frequency of theft or crimes in the store or parking lot. It's not uncommon to have police at the store already. Also, Wal-Mart doesn't have security at stores that don't [I]need[/I] it.

[quote]So, four months ago, he started ad matching. But last week when a Walmart employee told him it wasn't allowed, Joe complained to management. "When I left, he turned around and called the Pinal County Sheriff's Office and said he felt intimidated and threatened. I was upset, but never once did I say anything to the gentleman," Joe says of the incident. Joe says when he went back to Walmart four days later, three deputies handcuffed him, gave him a court summons and a notice banning him from any Walmart in the world for life. Read more: [url]http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_southeast_valley/queen_creek/Valley-man-banned-from-Walmart-for-life-#ixzz2n5W28MA3[/url] [/quote] The price matching has nothing to do with this case, it merely started the conversation in which the member of management he spoke to called the police and said he felt threatened. He didn't get arrested for price matching, he got arrested for "being threatening". Also he was arrested 4 days after the initial incident, at the same wallyworld.

I prefer target

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];43134701']Wal-Mart has an agreement with the federal and most state governments that promote the placement of a police vehicle on the Wal-Mart premises, usually the parking lot, because of frequency of theft or crimes in the store or parking lot. It's not uncommon to have police at the store already. Also, Wal-Mart doesn't have security at stores that don't [I]need[/I] it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://careers.walmart.com/career-areas/corporate/asset-protection/[/url]

[QUOTE=Irockz;43133037][IMG]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/files/2012/08/abcnews_generic.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I don't see what point you're trying to make