It’s official: America is now No. 2 in economy. China is No. 1
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[QUOTE=TheFishyG;46638465]joke's on China, 1 is widely known and proven by scientists to be the loneliest number[/QUOTE]
But two can be as bad as one.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;46638615]But two can be as bad as one.[/QUOTE]
It's the loneliest number since the number one
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;46638615]But two can be as bad as one.[/QUOTE]
The same study confirmed it was the loneliest number since the number 1.
EDIT:
Are you shitting me...
[QUOTE=Revenge282;46638683]The same study confirmed it was the loneliest number since the number 1.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trumple;46638682]It's the loneliest number since the number one[/QUOTE]
took me all this time to figure out the lyrics... smh
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;46638551]Lmao at all these excuses from the Americans.
India also has a billion more people than you, like population has anything to do with it if you do it well :v:
Pop Ranking:
US: #3
UK: #22
You guys have almost 300,000,000 more people than us and we're still the 6th biggest economy.
[video=youtube;W7NxDOrt8wI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NxDOrt8wI[/video][/QUOTE]
Ah yes the battlecry of the englishmen. "We'd be good if we weren't mediocre"
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;46638551]Lmao at all these excuses from the Americans.
India also has a billion more people than you, like population has anything to do with it if you do it well :v:
Pop Ranking:
US: #3
UK: #22
[B]You guys have almost 300,000,000 more people than us and we're still the 6th biggest economy.[/B]
[video=youtube;W7NxDOrt8wI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NxDOrt8wI[/video][/QUOTE]
All that means is that the other 180 or so countries just have really shitty economies.
Just because China has a larger economy, it doesn't mean they have political hegemony.
China is still far, [I]far[/I] too isolationist to ever grow to the same global power level of the United States. They will never assert themselves in that way, and they have always been introspective as a people even since their first Emperor, and that isn't likely to change unless their people get more liberties (which now that they are economically stronger, the government has even less reason to do so).
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46637518]yeah man if it wasn't for those pesky unions, i could be working 20 hours a day maximizing profit for my corporate overlords.[/QUOTE]
I for one love working 25 hours a day up mill and paying my generous mill owners for permission to come to work.
[QUOTE=Aide;46638954]I for one love working 25 hours a day up mill and paying my generous mill owners for permission to come to work.[/QUOTE]
Except you're not paying the mill owners, you're paying a group of mill workers who use that money to pay for things like health benefits, pension, and lobbying for workers rights.
[editline]4th December 2014[/editline]
also i dont think union shops are typically (if ever) owned by the actual union
[QUOTE=Swebonny;46637791]Yeah "China's economy is fake", "It's a bubble" blablabla, all the goto excuses that appears whenever China and money is mentioned. Must be a good thing knowing that the whole world and the economists are blinded by the lie that FP knows so well about.
And by the way, this is in terms of purchasing power. How do you define largest economy? If going by GDP USA is still biggest by far.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to post high numbers while you slave away your population. The only parts of China worth living are the parts created for regulated captalism.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;46637791]Yeah "China's economy is fake", "It's a bubble" blablabla, all the goto excuses that appears whenever China and money is mentioned. Must be a good thing knowing that the whole world and the economists are blinded by the lie that FP knows so well about.
And by the way, this is in terms of purchasing power. How do you define largest economy? If going by GDP USA is still biggest by far.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much a lie that blinds but rather one that noone can do anything about.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;46638946]Just because China has a larger economy, it doesn't mean they have political hegemony.
China is still far, [I]far[/I] too isolationist to ever grow to the same global power level of the United States. They will never assert themselves in that way, and they have always been introspective as a people even since their first Emperor, and that isn't likely to change unless their people get more liberties (which now that they are economically stronger, the government has even less reason to do so).[/QUOTE]
Isolationist? They are making claims on Taiwan, Japanese Islands and hell, look up how they are aggressively expanding into Africa via their state owned enterprise.
EDIT: And let's not forget the Pakistan/Indian/Chinese border and the Tibet...
EDIT2: Jesus, how could I have forgot it? They are also expanding here. They are doing what the British did during the 19th century: Financing infrastructure to facilitate the extraction of resources.....
[QUOTE=smurfy;46637473]We knew you would blow it America. Don't worry, you can come back to the Empire now[/QUOTE]
You know what? I wouldn't mind that at all. Let's get the whole gang back together and start kicking ass again.
I think that people posting in this thread should make sure to differentiate between economy size and military power projection. They're wildly different.
And still...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTyxo5j4Hug[/media]
These articles are so stupid and misleading to anyone who doesn't actually study economics, they are going solely off the PPP value which is flawed and by using the term "biggest/largest/any indicator of size" economy is a hell of a misnomer. Basically what the PPP is telling us the that 5$ USD would buy you more when in China compared to the US, which considering that China has the living conditions of a developing country, this shouldn't be surprising. Secondly, if you measure the nominal GDP, which is the amount of money actually made, the USA dwarfs China. The PPP fails to take into account numerous factors in indicating what makes an economy stable or "good".
This is nothing a nuke or two can't solve.
This shouldn't be something you care about.
South Korea and Sweden are ahead of us in R&D. That's something you should care about. Not "which country has more income", but "which country has the highest standard of living", or "who has the lowest infant mortality rate", or even "which country is the most technologically advanced, and has the lowest homicide/crime rate."
Comparing our economy's dick to China's economy's dick doesn't make our lives better. In a lot of cases, it makes it worse because we lose sight of what actually matters. I'm fine with us not being #1 in the world anymore in terms of political influence or economic size. I'm not fine with living in a country with a lowering standard of living with each year.
For the record, it's not really that meaningful, since it's PPP - which compares on goods and the actual real world cost of goods. Which means that China with it's one billion population can sooner or later steamroll the US in PPP counts.
I find it sad that a country with slave labour and no concept of safety is on top.
lol, when you live in a country that's ranked 82nd by GDP, the dick measuring contests don't really matter that much :v:
[QUOTE=wewt!;46640053]lol, when you live in a country that's ranked 82nd by GDP, the dick measuring contests don't really matter that much :v:[/QUOTE]
It does if your neighbor is ranked higher :P
Doesn't matter if China has a bigger economy if they are wearing our blue jeans and listening to our pop music.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;46640208]It does if your neighbor is ranked higher :P[/QUOTE]
when you're so low I can't see the difference between being in a shit economy or a slightly shittier economy I can hardly feel the need for nationalist pride
(I also think it's counter productive to think like that)
the problem is much of china's economy only exists on paper, the state-banks and state-insurance companies and provincial governments have been over-extended for years, they're on the brink of doing what japan did in the 90s, running out of cash, and when foreign investors realise that, they'll scramble for cover
the US could grow if we actually had companies that would start paying their taxes, and if people made actual good wages, every time the wealth gap has been small, and the middle class has been large, the US has seen its biggest economic growth
[editline]4th December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=_Kent_;46640268]Doesn't matter if China has a bigger economy if they are wearing our blue jeans and listening to our pop music.[/QUOTE]
ya screw science victories, we're going for cultural victories, we already won over europe, africa, and much of south east asia, just gotta get eastern europe now and china
Quick! We must annex Canada before the Chinese get to Alaska first!
[QUOTE=_Kent_;46640268]Doesn't matter if China has a bigger economy if they are wearing our blue jeans and listening to our pop music.[/QUOTE]
Have you heard of the Korean wave?
Korean culture is overtaking American culture in Asian countries. Kpop is more popular. Korean fashion is more popular.
America isn't as cool as you think it is
[QUOTE=wewt!;46640392]when you're so low I can't see the difference between being in a shit economy or a slightly shittier economy I can hardly feel the need for nationalist pride
(I also think it's counter productive to think like that)[/QUOTE]
Because of that same reason I thought you would know it was a joke.
[quote]Doesn't matter if China has a bigger economy if they are wearing our blue jeans and listening to our pop music. [/quote]
But you and they are probably listening to pop music using a device made in China.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46640529]Have you heard of the Korean wave?
Korean culture is overtaking American culture in Asian countries. Kpop is more popular. Korean fashion is more popular.
America isn't as cool as you think it is[/QUOTE]
yes, but where did the koreans get their culture first? The US of course!
Legit, thought they were already #1 for a really long time :v:
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