• German government to use Trojan spyware to monitor citizens
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[QUOTE=TG2;49798802]How the fuck is this fascist and fucked up if you need a court order to get the evidence? Just because we're capable of silent conversations now doesn't mean that governments should be denied access to them even with fair suspicion.[/QUOTE] I kind of agree with you. I just speed red everything.
Let's see here, what is this guy doing.. Mmm porn, games and cat videos on YouTube.. If they care to see what I do all day they are in for a treat lol
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49798930]A wiretap is a poor comparison; when you're talking on the phone you're talking to someone, your expectation of privacy is inherently lower. People do a lot of stuff on their computers and they inherently have a higher expectation of privacy (even when that isn't the case, e.g. going to a non-social-media website). This is more akin to setting up cameras in a person's home in my view.[/QUOTE] What do you base the claim about inherently lower expectation of privacy? Why would phone communication be any less private than computer communication? Regardless, the police can bug your phone and go through your house and all your belongings (including your computer) if they get a court order for it, and that's not what anyobody seems to really have a problem with. How different is computer monitoring really? The reason why NSA doing this is bad is because they kind of skip the warrant requirement part.
Well, It's never been a better time to cancel your internet format your computer and play offline forever.
I remember the last time they tried this :v: If I'm not mistaken all anti-virus creators had the thing on their lists about two months in and it was getting ridiculed in tech circles for being overall a bit crappy. As far as I can infer from the article, this trojan is probably going to be unconstitutional like the last one and will get thrown out again. [editline]23rd February 2016[/editline] According to Spiegel Online they hired a third-party company again that's now refusing to open the source code for an official audit. No way this is going to hold up in court :v: Our government is embarrassingly incompetent as far as technology goes, but on the plus side it means they can't get anything done in cases like these. I just hope they at least fix the power plants hooked up to the Internet.
It will be the year of the linux desktop soon, and all this proprietary software shit will die!
Welp, time to extend the closed borders to Germany and add funds to the military budget, looks like it's that time again
I think people are less afraid of such a thing being used legitimately with a warrant and more afraid of finding out 10 years down the line from some whistleblower that, not long after being allowed to use it legit, they just decided to go full NSA. Which to be fair, as of late, is not an unfounded fear.
[QUOTE=da space core;49798367]im always curious about people suggesting to use malware to spy on citizens it will be caught quickly, im sure Antivirus software (at least some of them) will remove said malware, and its a pain to develop malware if you use linux or some lesser used OS. Even from the governments point of view, its too much of a hassle[/QUOTE] Unless they decide to pull an NSA/FBI and try and strong arm antivirus providers into making an exception for their software, but even then I have my doubts it'd work entirely.
[QUOTE=Riutet;49802328]I think people are less afraid of such a thing being used legitimately with a warrant and more afraid of finding out 10 years down the line from some whistleblower that, not long after being allowed to use it legit, they just decided to go full NSA. Which to be fair, as of late, is not an unfounded fear.[/QUOTE] Or when some clever person figures out how to get access to the backdoor.
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