For the First Time, Lady Liberty Depicted as a Woman of Color on U.S. Currency
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[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666447]Seems kind of pointless, is all. Money spent designing it (which I'm almost positive costed more than it should) could have been put to use somewhere better, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god your eyes have been opened and you discovered art is useless. pack it up boys we're styleless pragmatists now.
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;51666363]How is natural black hair in a common African-American hairstyle a "stereotype"?[/QUOTE]
natural braids?
Pretty good design - unfortunate that basically nobody will see it, since $100 coins are never actually used.
Still looking forward to replacing Jackson with Tubman, though.
[QUOTE=gukki;51666509]natural braids?[/QUOTE]
Natural as in not straightened, relaxed, etc
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666447]Representation. On the most important medium of all- rare coinage.
Seems kind of pointless, is all. Money spent designing it (which I'm almost positive costed more than it should) could have been put to use somewhere better, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
they would've released a coin anyway. what's pointless to me is that you seem to be taking more issue with the fact that it's a commemorative coin with a black woman in it, rather than with commemorative coins in general
Considering Lady Liberty was originally designed for the Suez Canal in Egypt, she's always been a woman of color to me.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666447]Representation. On the most important medium of all- rare coinage.
Seems kind of pointless, is all. Money spent designing it (which I'm almost positive costed more than it should) could have been put to use somewhere better, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Do you understand how federal budgets and suchlike work? What else do you expect the federal mint to do with their money
[editline]14th January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=01271;51666506]Oh my god your eyes have been opened and you discovered art is useless. pack it up boys we're styleless pragmatists now.[/QUOTE]
As Robin Williams said in that movie once, engineering and banking and business is how we live - but art is why we live
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666447]Representation. On the most important medium of all- rare coinage.
Seems kind of pointless, is all. Money spent designing it (which I'm almost positive costed more than it should) could have been put to use somewhere better, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
dude, if you don't know what the federal coin mint is just let us know
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666160]Finally.
Now young black children can realistically dream of growing up to be a statue. Tackling the important matters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51666260]...and putting the effort/money invovled in designing and producing this towards any of those functions would have had more of an impact on the country than changing the face on a rare coin to.... fight oppression, I guess?[/QUOTE]
I'm fucking amazed right now
what could you possibly think they have the ability to do dude :v: They're doing everything they were made for, [B]literally the reason they exist is designing money[/B]
how do you expect them to have any impact
do we actually know lady liberty is black or not
i dont really have a problem with this tbh, cool coin
I don't really care much, but it does seem a little odd that a specifically western icon that grew out of western political philosophy would be represented by a traditionally non-western person.
I don't think there's anything wrong in explicitly acknowledging that the western tradition is what got us where we are.
Imagine a white person as the representative of confusionism, for example. It would, rightfully, be considered a bit silly.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51666283]I don't know how I feel about this. On one side that's cool but on the other, braids? Really? Does this really help? Putting a stereotype on a coin that is.[/QUOTE]
Its a common hairstyle. Calling it a stereotype is hyperbole. What hairstyle would you choose to represent a black female?
As we all know, no coin before this one was a product of remunerated work. Every commemorative coin in the history of America has been created by slave-laboring toddlers with help from an assorted range of creative minded gerbils. How did they achieve such a gargantuan range of products with this alone, you ask? How have they managed to release [I]fucking hundreds[/I] of commemorative coins with that strategy alone?
Well I wouldn't know, because I'm a moron. Ask the gerbils. The point is, this is [B]the first time in American history[/b] where the U.S. Mint has paid a designer to design a coin for them. How [I]dare[/I] they?? How could they waste money on such a frivolous thing? Where is the money even go-
[quote]Since the modern commemorative coin program began in 1982, the United States Mint has raised more than $506,301,189 in surcharges to help build new museums, maintain national monuments like the Vietnam War Memorial, preserve historical sites like George Washington's home, support various Olympic programs, and much more.[/quote]
- Oh. That's where it's going.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;51666174]what the fuck is a $100 coin and what uses does it have outside of "haha hey we're the U.S. Mint, check out what we've been up to"[/QUOTE]
Currency transferrence between banks and investors. That's what this and those large-ass denomination bills like the $1,000 dollar bill are for.
You're now imagining that scene from Die Hard 3 where they move out all the bullion to The Ants Go Marching.
So, there are no important black women in American history to put on a coin ?
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51666861]So, there are no important black women in American history to put on a coin ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah they go on [URL="https://modernmoney.treasury.gov/new-notes"]dollar bills[/URL] instead
Am i the only one here who never thought of lady liberty as having a race, but rather specifically a plain face to represent all americans? Tbh i don't really care about them racebending her, they're at least going about it the right way from what i can tell. Also, where's mr liberty, or is that just uncle sam?
whats with marvel lately
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51666861]So, there are no important black women in American history to put on a coin ?[/QUOTE]
you dont put specific people on this coin. thats why it has been a non real person on the coin forever.
Nope
[QUOTE=sgman91;51666839]I don't really care much, but it does seem a little odd that a specifically western icon that grew out of western political philosophy would be represented by a traditionally non-western person.
I don't think there's anything wrong in explicitly acknowledging that the western tradition is what got us where we are.
Imagine a white person as the representative of confusionism, for example. It would, rightfully, be considered a bit silly.[/QUOTE]
i don't think your comparison really fits here. but more importantly, there's no reason you cannot represent modern america which has become what it was because of the diversity of its citizens and cultures
[QUOTE=sgman91;51666839]I don't really care much, but it does seem a little odd that a specifically western icon that grew out of western political philosophy would be represented by a traditionally non-western person.
I don't think there's anything wrong in explicitly acknowledging that the western tradition is what got us where we are.
Imagine a white person as the representative of confusionism, for example. It would, rightfully, be considered a bit silly.[/QUOTE]
I'd find that silly, but then again I don't know a single thing about Confucianism (I know it's not spelled "confusionism"), so I can't really debate you on that hilariously misspelled point
I feel like I know about western values though, and while I'm not claiming to be an authority on it, or denying it's a somewhat vague and malleable set of values, I do think diversity is a big part of it, and I see no problem with representing that diversity
[QUOTE=Primigenes;51666868]The fact that you even said this proves you know absolutely nothing about American history[/QUOTE]
That is how questions work, you know. I can't name one I heard about. Of all the presidents, generals, politicians, inventors, etc. in our USA history classes they never mentioned one. I also can't remember anything from documentaries I watched.
[QUOTE=KillRay;51666915]you dont put specific people on this coin. thats why it has been a non real person on the coin forever.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't aware of that, that is interesting.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51666934]
I wasn't aware of that, that is interesting.[/QUOTE]
it has only been "lady liberty" until now which is just an representation of the Statue of Liberty (or, the spirit of liberty for a more metaphorical sense), from what i understand
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[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;51666423]Braids are one of many black hair styles, what's the problem here??[/QUOTE]
"black hair styles"
[QUOTE=elowin;51667020]"black hair styles"[/QUOTE]
What's the problem? Braids are a traditionally African hair styling that the Africans who were relocated to the US kept using, it being their tradition and all. It's still much more common among blacks than whites.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornrows[/url]
[QUOTE=elowin;51667020]"black hair styles"[/QUOTE]
Different ethnic groups have different hairtypes which are inherently conducive to some types of hairstyling and not others.
[QUOTE=KillRay;51666952]it has only been "lady liberty" until now which is just an representation of the Statue of Liberty (or, the spirit of liberty for a more metaphorical sense), from what i understand
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Feels a bit backwards to me to give a "raceless" thing a race in the name of racial equality
[QUOTE=gukki;51667098]Feels a bit backwards to me to give a "raceless" thing a race in the name of racial equality[/QUOTE]
isn't showing that it can be portrayed by any and all races also a way of making it a raceless symbol?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51667107]isn't showing that it can be portrayed by any and all races also a way of making it a raceless symbol?[/QUOTE]
I think it being raceless would make it a raceless symbol.
Not like any of this really matters anyway, if anyone seriously get upset about this then fuck dude i dont know, take a bath or play a game or something.
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