Oskar Groening: 'Auschwitz book-keeper' jailed for four years over role in murder of 300,000 people
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[QUOTE=fragger0;48229795]I've made about 5 different posts with reasons why he shouldn't sent to prison and not once have I said he was forced to do what he did. He's unwilling to listen to these reasons because clearly he's never going to change his mind about this man.
Have you even read my previous posts on the topic?[/QUOTE]
You know that post of mine you replied to? The one you quoted?
You know it was a reply to TheTalon, right?
Go back and read his post, and then mine again.
Reading is fun!
I don't understand the point in sentencing him to prison. Is it going to act as a deterrent to the next person involved in mass-murder?
I understand the need to have the matter heard by a court and convict, but don't understand the point of punishing a 94 year old person.
[QUOTE=beanhead;48214010]Not every not every cell is a cement room with only hole to shit in and bench to sleep on
That being said I think the sentence is unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
It's important to note that not every prison is run by Joe Arpaio. Some prisons are sane.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;48230191]You know that post of mine you replied to? The one you quoted?
You know it was a reply to TheTalon, right?
Go back and read his post, and then mine again.
Reading is fun![/QUOTE]
I've read every post in this thread... I still don't agree with you. I think it's wrong to send him to prison.
[QUOTE=J!NX;48218555]I can't believe this is even a word.
If you need a reminder as to why people hate the Nazi's I think you may be crazy.[/QUOTE]
I can appreciate the emotional reasons why people are going after the very last surviving members of the third Reich, but I find this behavior irrational. All the biggest players of the third Reich, especially those that were involved in the holocaust (the inception of it, the organization, the structure, the big decisions, etc) have been tried, jailed, or are dead. It's like taking the king in chess, then going after the remaining pawns... 70 years later! It doesn't make sense. Going after every single guard, bookkeeper, translator, or whatever accessory in a crime that would implicate hundreds of thousands of people nearly three quarters of a century ago just seems like wasted resources to me. It's not going to reverse what happened or what they did, it certainly won't stop or prevent neonazis from holding their current views (this is what I meant when I mentioned naziphobes), and it doesn't serve any benefit beyond an illusory perception that justice has been dealt. A hollow, symbolic victory for which a 94 year old will probably serve his sentence in a kushy prison hardly different from a retirement home. He'll be assigned a nurse, a cozy room, he might even be allowed to keep a garden. There's no real punishment, there's likely no rehabilitation involved, just a costly prison sentence and judiciary process.
Should people that commit moral wrong doings be held accountable for their actions? Certainly. Should they be punished for those wrong doings, and should society be made aware of it? I would say so. Should it be in the pursuit of rehabilitation? I think that ought to be the goal of most, if not all incarceration (with rare exceptions). But I also think circumstance matters. I think there comes a point when one should also ask, will it make a perceptible difference if a punishment or judgment is carried out? Will it serve to rehabilitate the criminal or wrongdoer? Would it serve society to carry it out? And I would say, in this case, I don't think it does.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48232374]I've read every post in this thread... I still don't agree with you. I think it's wrong to send him to prison.[/QUOTE]
Well obviously you read wrong, because he was pointing out how the people saying he was drafted and faced death for not complying were not reading the thread. In that post he said nothing about whether or not he is guilty.
So erm... what exactly has this achieved? The sentence is pointless, even if he was to be considered guilty of doing an accounting job.
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