Things go wrong when SJW tries to get British YouTube channel host fired
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49069059][...] The entire situation seems very silly to me. It's two extreme personalities butting heads over ultimately stupid shit.[/QUOTE]
I think it's relatively important that issues like this are made known, because, [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5TMmxlsLN8&feature=youtu.be&t=41m19s"]as he puts it[/URL], "Nobel prize winners have been sacked for less". People targeting others' jobs for things they don't like they say is a huge issue that's becoming more prominent afaict.
(As an aside: Here in Germany people started to report others to their employers for [I]actual[/I] hate speech more often, but that's still not OK as long as the employer is unrelated to the issue at hand. If it's illegal as per the law here then I'm all for reporting it to the police, but then the judicial system really should be the one to "dispense justice" where applicable and not private people dragging a third party into it.)
[QUOTE=m9070459330;49068224]Not all Ph.Ds are credible, far from it.
You can tell when a person isn't dedicated to his profession and simply wants a ph.d title to add weight to their empty words.
and I'm sorry but a phd in liberal arts/social sciences isn't equal to to a phd of precise sciences.[/QUOTE]
Are you telling me that a PhD in something like sociology or economy isn't credible? Because you know those are social sciences.
Not to mention claiming that a phd in libarts is an empty piece of paper - it isn't really and very often those studying for it have to study just as much as those studying for STEM fields.
Or hey what about a iuris doctor, because you know, law is totally imprecise.
What you're doing is confusing degree fields and degrees issued by degree mills.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;49069470]Are you telling me that a PhD in something like sociology or economy isn't credible? Because you know those are social sciences.
Not to mention claiming that a phd in libarts is an empty piece of paper - it isn't really and very often those studying for it have to study just as much as those studying for STEM fields.
Or hey what about a iuris doctor, because you know, law is totally imprecise.
What you're doing is confusing degree fields and degrees issued by degree mills.[/QUOTE]
It depends on how you look at it. A lot of the social science I see reported on is done really badly, as if the authors never took proper statistics classes, or want to get a significant large result even if there's not enough data or the data says the result is small.
Doing it properly is quite a bit more difficult than in "hard" sciences, and I have a lot of respect for that, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be a requirement much of the time.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49069059][I]Hey, youtube followers, go raid her business with negative reviews calling HER a Nazi![/I]
???
That's not defending himself, that's just counter-smearing.
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I mean, she ultimately did this to herself, I agree. I'm just not going to sit here cheering and whistling about him choosing to play her dumb game. The entire situation seems very silly to me. It's two extreme personalities butting heads over ultimately stupid shit.[/QUOTE]
It'll be interesting to hear your reaction if someone ever decides to [I]permanently fuck up your life for simple and literal spite[/I], cause I somehow doubt it will be well reasoned and thought laden.
[quote] Don't ever rent/buy a house from that guy he's a fucking pedo, I know because I read it on the internet twice[/quote]
[editline]7th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=wraithcat;49069470]Are you telling me that a PhD in something like sociology or economy isn't credible? Because you know those are social sciences.
Not to mention claiming that a phd in libarts is an empty piece of paper - it isn't really and very often those studying for it have to study just as much as those studying for STEM fields.
Or hey what about a iuris doctor, because you know, law is totally imprecise.
What you're doing is confusing degree fields and degrees issued by degree mills.[/QUOTE]
Actually they're quite correct about sociology. It's rapidly become denatured as a degree for entirely [I]political[/I] reasons, and the ancillary problem of fluctuating principles behind the teaching methodology every five years or so.
Karma is bitch, isn't it?
I don't think anyone deserves this kind of shit, but when it does happen and it happens to someone who was literally driving to do the exact same thing to someone else for having different opinions, then I can't help but laugh. I think we'll file this under 'bully gets taste of her own medicine'.
[QUOTE=DeEz;49069115]He was suggestive at best, pointing out that her previous comments on how untouchable she was, was not actually entirely true. She was [I]directly [/I]trying to ruin him (and if he had any other type of job, he probably would be ruined by now), and all he did was point out the chink in her armor and the internet hatewagon that she already stirred up did the rest.
She ruined herself.[/QUOTE]
Even so, culpability aside, I don't like what happened to this woman. I just don't think that anyone should suffer in their jobs and their livelihood because of political or social disagreements. Does anyone deserve to potentially have their livelihood ruined because of something like this, even if she was the one who started it? Is that really justice?
We can argue whether this is right or wrong until judgment day, but there is one undeniable fact here that should be pointed out.
Would not have happened if she didn't do it herself. Actions have consequences, "look before you leap," etc etc.
[QUOTE=Quq;49068081]the anti-"""SJW""" hysteria on facepunch is getting out of control[/QUOTE]
Ah boy, here we go. :shitposting:
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;49070971]Even so, culpability aside, I don't like what happened to this woman. I just don't think that anyone should suffer in their jobs and their livelihood because of political or social disagreements. Does anyone deserve to potentially have their livelihood ruined because of something like this, even if she was the one who started it? Is that really justice?[/QUOTE]
People LOVED this kind of justice with Donald Sterling and that CEO for Mozilla. I tried saying back then that this kind of "justice" wasn't right, but all I got in return was "Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences". I'm laughing my ass of because now that the shoe is on the other ideological foot, people are starting to "have a problem with it".
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49069150]Ye, fair enough point.[/QUOTE]
Also, there is nothing wrong with people judging a business because of its owners. The Chick Fillet restaurants got hammered hard by the owners stances on gay marriage, etc.
As long as people aren't making stuff up for their reviews and just pointing out the owners I see no problems.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49071177]People LOVED this kind of justice with Donald Sterling and that CEO for Mozilla. I tried saying back then that this kind of "justice" wasn't right, but all I got in return was "Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences". I'm laughing my ass of because now that the shoe is on the other ideological foot, people are starting to "have a problem with it".[/QUOTE]
What happened at Mozilla?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49071299]What happened at Mozilla?[/QUOTE]
People found out that the newly appointed CEO had donated to something about prop 8 back in like 2008 and started calling for his head, so he basically got pressured out of his new CEO position at Mozilla.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49071177]People LOVED this kind of justice with Donald Sterling and that CEO for Mozilla. I tried saying back then that this kind of "justice" wasn't right, but all I got in return was "Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences". I'm laughing my ass of because now that the shoe is on the other ideological foot, people are starting to "have a problem with it".[/QUOTE]
Yeah I can't help but notice that same level of hypocrisy.
I remember for Sterling, it wasn't important to anyone that wanted him damned that he'd said those things in private, that he was recorded without his knowledge. They just thought "Shitty person, lose your job" which is just a bit of an example of people really wanting their opinions enforced by society, and hell, I agreed at the time that he probably shouldn't be leading the team, but since then, I've had my doubts that it was the right way to go about that kind of conflict.
I really wonder how many of the posters here who were calling for Sterling on a spike feel knowing that they're exercising some serious double think.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49071299]What happened at Mozilla?[/QUOTE]
Eich, the creator or JavaScript, co-founder of Mozilla, all-around really smart man, was pressured out of moving from CTO to CEO when it was found out that he donated privately to Prop 8 in California way back when it was relevant. Social Justice Fucktards called for his head ignoring that fact that at that time all of the US was overwhelming against gay marriage (including Hillary and Obama!). So much so that after Prop 8 was struck down my the Supreme Court, it was PASSED AGAIN. In the meantime, Mozilla had been pretty supporting in the whole LGBT area. And that coworkers said that Eich was not a horrible person and was nice to his employees, even the gay ones.
[editline]7th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49071359]Yeah I can't help but notice that same level of hypocrisy.
I remember for Sterling, it wasn't important to anyone that wanted him damned that he'd said those things in private, that he was recorded without his knowledge. They just thought "Shitty person, lose your job" which is just a bit of an example of people really wanting their opinions enforced by society, and hell, I agreed at the time that he probably shouldn't be leading the team, but since then, I've had my doubts that it was the right way to go about that kind of conflict.
I really wonder how many of the posters here who were calling for Sterling on a spike feel knowing that they're exercising some serious double think.[/QUOTE]
As MovieBlob put it. No bad actions, only bad targets.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49071433]It's ok to vote against civil rights as long as it was the status quo of the time.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for coming in and missing the entire point. We look forward to you doing it again.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49071433]It's ok to vote against civil rights as long as it was the status quo of the time.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck does this have to do with anything.
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