BREAKING: Mubarak likely to resign today. UPDATE: He didn't. UPDATE: Then he did!
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[QUOTE=R3mix;27973690]It's the only one that hasn't failed yet.[/QUOTE]
The system that puts hard working people out of their houses with no food and give tax breaks to the rich who don't need it and you say it hasn't failed?
NO form of government will ever work. I agree with the idea of democracy. The people should choose for themselves but it will never work with uneducated people. People ask themselves how we get people like bush and Regan? Politics shouldn't change people need to change.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;27973998]The system that puts hard working people out of their houses with no food and give tax breaks to the rich who don't need it and you say it hasn't failed?
NO form of government will ever work. I agree with the idea of democracy. The people should choose for themselves but it will never work with uneducated people. People ask themselves how we get people like bush and Regan? Politics shouldn't change people need to change.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck are you talking about? When did a Democracy put people out of their houses with no food and give tax breaks to the rich? That's something the [b]President (Who was a Republican)[/b] might've done, but don't blame Democracy for that, because the majority elected that person. Therefore, Democracy hasn't failed.
Can't wait to see the crowd flip their shit and explode fighting at Mubarak not leaving
Gon b gud
[QUOTE=R3mix;27974035]What the fuck are you talking about? When did a Democracy put people out of their houses with no food and give tax breaks to the rich? That's something [b]Republicans[/b] might've done, but don't blame Democracy for that, because the majority elected that person. Therefore, Democracy hasn't failed.[/QUOTE]
Because its done through lies and deception. They managed to convince the majority that if you give tax breaks to the wealthy they will hire more people and spread the money around. In reality its just the opposite. It not like real democracy at all since they have it all set up how to control the people. If they want this bill here passed they pull a string over here. I understand yes it is the people. If people cared more about politics we wouldn't have this problem.
I still don't see it at democracy when the government clearly exploits the stupidity of the majority.
[QUOTE=R3mix;27973690]It's the only one that hasn't failed yet.[/QUOTE]
I bet you're one of those people who also think capitalism works because it's still around.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;27974159]Because its done through lies and deception. They managed to convince the majority that if you give tax breaks to the wealthy they will hire more people and spread the money around. In reality its just the opposite. It not like real democracy at all since they have it all set up how to control the people. If they want this bill here passed they pull a string over here. I understand yes it is the people. If people cared more about politics we wouldn't have this problem.
I still don't see it at democracy when the government clearly exploits the stupidity of the majority.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the government just is a whole conspiracy man isn't it? :rolleye: Nobody is convinced that tax breaks to the wealthy will hire more people, because if you would've paid attention to the polls during the tax breaks that were voted on in Congress, the Majority wanted to have the Bush Taxes extended [b]ONLY[/b] for the Middle Class, and start taxing the Wealthy. Even the Wealthy have been telling the government to tax them more. I don't know where you're getting your sources, but it really seems like you're just coming up with these weird conspiracy ideas that the government is just a big bad wolf.
[QUOTE=Melnek;27974214]I bet you're one of those people who also think capitalism works because it's still around.[/QUOTE]
Capitalism [b]does[/b] work.
[QUOTE=R3mix;27974228]Capitalism [b]does[/b] work.[/QUOTE]
Capitalism works so well we have half of the world starving and are neck deep in famines and poverty while just overseas people are enjoying their double burgers with extra cheese. Yeah, fantastic system that obviously works perfectly.
Capitalism, even on paper is just fucking evil and goes right against human nature, we are known as a human kind to survive in groups, we are very social creatures and strive to survive in packs. While capitalism encourages individualism and selfishness. Here you are, heres you job and its 7 figure salary and heres you home. Fuck your neighbor who is suffering from money shortages and has an entire family to support. Fuck him, he's not important. All that matters is you and and your money.
[QUOTE=R3mix;27974228]
Capitalism [B]does[/B] work.[/QUOTE]
Say that when you move out of your parents house.
Its not a secret. Look at the 50's in typical America dad worked one job mom stayed home and minded the children and everything was fine. Now that Regan broke the unions. No one can make a livable wage unless your living in a closet work two jobs or suck enough dick and get lucky enough to land a high paying job. Lets not forget not everyone has a chance at that high paying job so should we just say fuck you to the middle class? I work and go to school, My aunt works 2 jobs and my grandfather helps with his social security and we still cant pay the bills.Our water was shut off all of last week. So how does capitalism work again? Oh yeah the rich are allowed to run wild and steal as much money as they please.
[QUOTE=Melnek;27974418].[/QUOTE]
you must be a "GASP" SOCIALIST
When is the speech?
[QUOTE=orgornot;27974454]When is the speech?[/QUOTE]
5-30 minutes from now.
Actually it's right now. In just a few seconds.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker[/url]
[QUOTE=Melnek;27974418]Capitalism works so well we have half of the world staving and are neck deep in famines and poverty while just overseas people are enjoying their double burgers with extra cheese. Yeah, fantastic system that obviously works perfectly.
Capitalism, even on paper is just fucking evil and goes right against human nature, we are known as a human kind to survive in groups, we are very social creatures and strive to survive in packs. While capitalism encourages individualism and selfishness. Here you are, heres you job and its 6 figure salary and heres you home. Fuck your neighbor who is suffering from money shortages and has an entire family to support. Fuck him, he's not important. All that matters is you and and your money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mudbone;27974431]Say that when you move out of your parents house.
Its not a secret. Look at the 50's in typical America dad worked one job mom stayed home and minded the children and everything was fine. Now that Regan broke the unions. No one can make a livable wage unless your living in a closet work two jobs or suck enough dick and get lucky enough to land a high paying job. Lets not forget not everyone has a chance at that high paying job so should we just say fuck you to the middle class? I work and go to school, My aunt works 2 jobs and my grandfather helps with his social security and we still cant pay the bills.Our water was shut off all of last week. So how does capitalism work again? Oh yeah the rich are allowed to run wild and steal as much money as they please.[/QUOTE]
[b]Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the free market; profit is sent to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses and companies.[/b]
I'm sure that Communism works so much better, right? :rolleye: Cause ya' kno, the government just does a great job in communism at allowing everyone to be equal, and feeding them, and the such. In Capitalism, everyone has a fair opportunity as long as it's regulated, which our government does, to allow everyone the opportunity. Whether or not you want to take advantage of that opportunity, is your choice. And knowing you, you're going to bring up the U.S. economy in the shit hole and unemployment. Has absolutely nothing to do with Capitalism. Has to do with the US Budget, and other economical policies the Bush Administration set. So before you go on a liberal rampage of why Capitalism is bad, at least know what you're talking about. Because most of our world is using Capitalism.
P.S. I already moved out of my house, and I'm currently attending college.
[QUOTE=Melnek;27974483]Actually it's right now. In just a few seconds.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker[/url][/QUOTE]
15 minutes late dude. I doubt it.
[editline]10th February 2011[/editline]
and now 20 minutes late from the planned time.
taking bets on how many minutes the speech lasts before he gets A CAP IN HIS ASS, YO
[QUOTE=R3mix;27974489][b]Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the free market; profit is sent to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses and companies.[/b]
I'm sure that Communism works so much better, right? :rolleye: Cause ya' kno, the government just does a great job in communism at allowing everyone to be equal, and feeding them, and the such. In Capitalism, everyone has a fair opportunity as long as it's regulated, which our government does, to allow everyone the opportunity. Whether or not you want to take advantage of that opportunity, is your choice. And knowing you, you're going to bring up the U.S. economy in the shit hole and unemployment. Has absolutely nothing to do with Capitalism. Has to do with the US Budget, and other economical policies the Bush Administration set. So before you go on a liberal rampage of why Capitalism is bad, at least know what you're talking about. Because most of our world is using Capitalism.
P.S. I already moved out of my house, and I'm currently attending college.[/QUOTE]
Not wanting to continue personal attacks but who is paying for college?
ontopic. Communism is an extreme system of seeing the people are taken care of. Capitalism can be fine in moderation. People should be able to work different jobs and take up opportunity's for a better life but what about those left behind or who slip through the cracks? There aren't enough high paying jobs to go around. People need to be able to be paid a livable wage doing manual labor. Because I was unlucky enough to be born into a relatively poor family should I be stuck in an endless work cycle to pay the bills just to keep stable?
[QUOTE=AlphaGunman;27974661]taking bets on how many minutes the speech lasts before he gets A CAP IN HIS ASS, YO[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AlphaGunman;27974661]taking bets on how many minutes the speech lasts before he gets A CAP IN HIS ASS, YO[/QUOTE]
He's doing the speech in his palace (Which is on complete lockdown), Unless they manage to break in there somehow.
[QUOTE=ChrisR;27974703]He's doing the speech in his palace (Which is on complete lockdown), Unless they manage to break in there somehow.[/QUOTE]
i was talking about him putting a bottle cap in his rectum
Apparently rumors are that he is handing power over to the military. I'm thinking they are all bullshit, but if he does those people are going to flip their shit.
Gonna be HALF AN HOUR after the planned time.
:colbert:
[QUOTE=Mudbone;27974688]Not wanting to continue personal attacks but who is paying for college?
ontopic. Communism is an extreme system of seeing the people are taken care of. Capitalism can be fine in moderation. People should be able to work different jobs and take up opportunity's for a better life but what about those left behind or who slip through the cracks? There aren't enough high paying jobs to go around. People need to be able to be paid a livable wage doing manual labor. Because I was unlucky enough to be born into a relatively poor family should I be stuck in an endless work cycle to pay the bills just to keep stable?[/QUOTE]
My Scholarships, Federal Loans, and I.
I also love how we're starting to change our position on Capitalism now, "Capitalism can be fine in moderation." I never said that full blown out Capitalism unregulated is good. People work in what they want to work, I've known people who come from the dirt bottom and rise to the top in our society because of the fact they took their education seriously, and were determined. There's always going to be people "slipping through the cracks" because of several reasons, it's inevitable. There will never be high paying jobs for everyone, because then the economy would be inflated.
Everyone would be rich, and our money would be worth absolute shit, with everything extremely priced. Everyone in the United States has a livable wage doing manual labor, hence the fact we have a minimum wage here. Sure some might need to get more than one job, but I'm sorry if they wanted to drop out of school or just graduate and not decide to go to college to further their career path. But, high important jobs aren't for everyone. Yeah, it's an ugly world, but we need people working those jobs that no one else will do. Imagine if everyone was highly paid and intelligent, nobody would want to work at McDonalds, or anything like that.
It's a shitty world, but we have to make the most of it, and try and help people as much as possible. But, at the end of the day, if it weren't for Capitalism in the United States, jobs wouldn't be exported out of this Country to other nations, and we wouldn't have jobs here either.
[QUOTE=AK'z;27974548]15 minutes late dude. I doubt it.
[editline]10th February 2011[/editline]
and now 20 minutes late from the planned time.[/QUOTE]
Goddamnit they keep saying IT'S ON NOW IN A MINUTE OH GOD IT'S ON IT'S ON and then just keep interviewing random journalists. fucking aljazeera
[QUOTE=R3mix;27974489][b]Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the free market; profit is sent to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses and companies.[/b]
I'm sure that Communism works so much better, right? :rolleye: Cause ya' kno, the government just does a great job in communism at allowing everyone to be equal, and feeding them, and the such. In Capitalism, everyone has a fair opportunity as long as it's regulated, which our government does, to allow everyone the opportunity. Whether or not you want to take advantage of that opportunity, is your choice. And knowing you, you're going to bring up the U.S. economy in the shit hole and unemployment. Has absolutely nothing to do with Capitalism. Has to do with the US Budget, and other economical policies the Bush Administration set. So before you go on a liberal rampage of why Capitalism is bad, at least know what you're talking about. Because most of our world is using Capitalism.
P.S. I already moved out of my house, and I'm currently attending college.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, you have no idea what communism is do you. Like, not even the damn basics.
Also are you retarded? of course capitalism has EVERYTHING to do with the US' utter failure as an economic system. You do realize the US is a capitalist region right. "US Budget, and other economical policies the Bush Administration set" are all the outcome of capitalism, they all work for the capitalistic system.
Let's talk about Egypt you guys.
[QUOTE=Melnek;27974810]Hahaha, you have no idea what communism is do you. Like, not even the damn basics.
Also are you retarded? of course capitalism has EVERYTHING to do with the US' utter failure as an economic system. You do realize the US is a capitalist region right. "US Budget, and other economical policies the Bush Administration set" are all the outcome of capitalism.[/QUOTE]
Take AP Macroeconomics, learn the Laws of Supply and Demand. Capitalism is an economic system, yes, but the US Budget and other economical policies are not the outcome of capitalism, but right-winged policies, again. Don't blame a perfectly working system on other people voting in someone who messed up our perfectly working system. Cause everything for the most part was fine during the Clinton era.
I'm done debating this with both of you, we've derailed this thread enough.
The dude just said, "[B]WE'RE STILL WAITING[/B]"
Does he want me to RAGE? :argh:
Al Jazeera says he was due to speak 30 min ago.
Al jazeera is down for me. Anyone else?
[QUOTE=Theater;27974923]Al jazeera is down for me. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]
Nope, up and running for me, just you.
Nevermind.
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30 minutes, I've been listening to this shit.. not watching it.
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