76% of Britons believe Islam is 'not compatible' with our way of life - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39345950]Just because someone is a Muslim does not mean they have to practice it. Hell many of Christians don't practice Christianity.[/quote] Then they are not Christians, what the fuck are you even talking about Christianity and Islam are religions, not cultures or nationalities, seriously[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39345919]regardless of the ad hominen attacks, you still have given the following as evidence for Jesus Christ existing: 1. Fuck 2. All[/QUOTE] Well most actual historians accept the work of Tacitus and Josephus as fact, but if you, a veteran forum user, dismiss them, then who are actual historians to try and say Jesus existed?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39345896]Good job not even being able to write Atheist correctly. It's funny because most of the people I've seen who call themselves "athiests" (not atheists, mind you) tend to be huge jackasses who just speak shit because it makes them feel superior about something. I bet you're also a vegan.[/QUOTE] So you base the whole debate over a typo. Good debate would debate again with you. Nice to know how you get off.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39345967]So you base the whole debate over a typo. Good debate would debate again with you. Nice to know how you get off.[/QUOTE] Seems like I hit a sweet spot too. Also I wouldn't really qualify this a debate, more like you trying hopelessly to defend yourself against the fact that you fucked up and posted xenophobic stuff on a forum

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39345950]Just because someone is a Muslim does not mean they have to practice it. Hell many of Christians don't practice Christianity. [/QUOTE] What? Muslim isn't a race or ethnic group, it's a term for someone who adheres to the teachings of Islam.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39345948]I'm not generalizing Atheists at all, just making a remark that everyone I've seen who can't actually write Atheist has also tended to be a major dipshit.[/QUOTE] Ok since one definition of generalizing is: make a general or broad statement, do tell us how you are not doing exactly that? you are categorically saying that people who can write Atheist are dipshits

[QUOTE=georgeface;39345991]Ok since one definition of generalizing is: make a general or broad statement, do tell us how you are not doing exactly that? you are categorically saying that people who can write Atheist are dipshits[/QUOTE] What's your point ?

[QUOTE=Within;39344975]what do you [I]think[/I] would happen if white people, Christians, whatever, moved to their country, tried to instate and enforce [I]our[/I] culture and religion (or, for that matter, rejection of belief)?[/QUOTE] That happened a lot

I just googled it, there's no evidence that Jesus exists. You learn something everyday.

[QUOTE=Within;39344975]I'm not trying to promote any kind of hatred or racism here, but if we look at it from the reverse perspective, what do you [I]think[/I] would happen if white people, Christians, whatever, moved to their country, tried to instate and enforce [I]our[/I] culture and religion (or, for that matter, rejection of belief)? It doesn't take a white supremacist to realize it would cause an absolute inferno.[/QUOTE] Well it did happen a fuckload with pretty much the entirety of Africa and some portions of Asia People were not happy about it

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39345994]What's your point ?[/QUOTE] Well if you read my opening statement it was asking you if where you stand, as in are you Christian/Muslim/Atheist but you avoided the question and tried to defend yourself about generalizing Atheists

[QUOTE=Satansick;39346005]I just googled it, there's no evidence that Jesus exists. You learn something everyday.[/QUOTE] There's a few texts that tend to be accepted by most historians, but there's a bunch who also say these texts, because they were written after the death of Jesus and by biased people, are completely invalidated. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=georgeface;39346039]Well if you read my opening statement it was asking you if where you stand, as in are you Christian/Muslim/Atheist but you avoided the question and tried to defend yourself about generalizing Atheists[/QUOTE] I actually answered the question in an edit right over here : [QUOTE=Ganerumo;39345948]And since I don't really believe in any god I guess I'd be considered an Atheist or an Agnostic, if I cared enough to ask to be called one of these. The thing is I'm respectful enough of other people's religions not to spit on them and I'm curious enough to actually read about these religions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346024]Well it did happen a fuckload with pretty much the entirety of Africa and some portions of Asia People were not happy about it[/QUOTE] Also why are you arguing with posts on page 2, considering we are on page 5?

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39345987]What? Muslim isn't a race or ethnic group, it's a term for someone who adheres to the teachings of Islam.[/QUOTE] I have never stated that a muslim is a race or ethnic group, what are you talking about. Your trying to generalize that every muslim has to be a practicing muslim and they follow koran to the tee.

[QUOTE=georgeface;39346059]Also why are you arguing with posts on page 2, considering we are on page 5?[/QUOTE] Fuck the police

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39345948]I'm not generalizing Atheists at all, just making a remark that everyone I've seen who can't actually write Atheist has also tended to be a major dipshit. And since I don't really believe in any god I guess I'd be considered an Atheist or an Agnostic, if I cared enough to ask to be called one of these. The thing is I'm respectful enough of other people's religions not to spit on them and I'm curious enough to actually read about these religions.[/QUOTE] Didn't see the edit, you make a fair point

[QUOTE=Satansick;39346005]I just googled it, there's no evidence that Jesus exists. You learn something everyday.[/QUOTE] The works of Tacitus and Josephus are chief among the proof of the existence of Jesus of Nazareth, or at least a Jewish preacher of the same time period. They were written about seventy years later, yes, but that's no reason to immediately dismiss them. I find hard to believe the entire religion and the thing holding it together is a lie fabricated by a group of old theologians.

When all the eastern europeans came over here the most we complained about is them "taking our jobs" which was mainly the shitty agency work we didn't want to do. (I used to do agency work.) They were happy and our country adapted to them (See the 'foreign foods' sections in shops and the large amount of eastern european shops we now have). Yet when people from the middle east came over here (many illegally) they all kick up a fuss about our way of life and constantly stir up stuff in the media when they could just as easily [i]get out of the country if they don't like it here[/i].

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39346064]I have never stated that a muslim is a race or ethnic group, what are you talking about. Your trying to generalize that every muslim has to be a practicing muslim and they follow koran to the tee.[/QUOTE] Dude, if someone practices Islam, then he's called a Muslim. If he's not practicing Islam, he can't be called a Muslim. It's that simple. "A follower of the religion of Islam" is the definition of Muslim.

[QUOTE=Satansick;39346005]I just googled it, there's no evidence that Jesus exists. You learn something everyday.[/QUOTE] There's also no evidence to see who killed Christopher George Latore Wallace but he still died. Does that mean he was not killed? Google isn't the wishgranter from stalker you know.

[QUOTE=georgeface;39346090]Didn't see the edit, you make a fair point[/QUOTE] Glad to see you don't immediately diss it. To be honest I tend to dislike it when people call themselves Atheists because it just seems foolish. I mean, sure, if you don't believe in a god you are consequently an Atheist, but in my opinion you shouldn't really care enough about religion to call yourself an Atheist, you should just not call yourself anything. Of course if you are asked what your religion is and you answer that okay but some people actually make Atheism their defining character which is a bit weird and almost idiotic.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39346064]I have never stated that a muslim is a race or ethnic group, what are you talking about. Your trying to generalize that every muslim has to be a practicing muslim and they follow koran to the tee.[/QUOTE] That's what Muslim means you twonk. An adherent of Islam. And you stated that Islam wants to take over Europe (As if it's some sort of singular entity). Therefore it's adherents, Muslims, want to take over Europe. But good job trying to spin the argument and make it look like [I]I'm[/I] the one generalizing Muslims.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39346122]There's also no evidence to see who killed Christopher George Latore Wallace but he still died. Does that mean he was not killed? Google isn't the wishgranter from stalker you know.[/QUOTE] I am starting to be really suspectful at the fact that despite calling you a non-believer of any religion you still very dearly defend Christianity and show absolute ignorance concerning Islam

[QUOTE=Ereunity;39346101]When all the eastern europeans came over here the most we complained about is them "taking our jobs" which was mainly the shitty agency work we didn't want to do. (I used to do agency work.) They were happy and our country adapted to them (See the 'foreign foods' sections in shops and the large amount of eastern european shops we now have). Yet when people from the middle east came over here (many illegally) they all kick up a fuss about our way of life and constantly stir up stuff in the media when they could just as easily [i]get out of the country if they don't like it here[/i].[/QUOTE] By and large the Polish and Eastern Europeans were accepted after initial hatred because they didn't spread their ways of life, they practiced them but with each other, they never did kick up any fuss, and your right the Middle Eastern and African people generally do, personally I think the borders need to be closed, there are so many homeless people and with 21% of young people unemployed us natives need some breathing room.

[QUOTE=Ereunity;39346101]When all the eastern europeans came over here the most we complained about is them "taking our jobs" which was mainly the shitty agency work we didn't want to do. (I used to do agency work.) They were happy and our country adapted to them (See the 'foreign foods' sections in shops and the large amount of eastern european shops we now have). Yet when people from the middle east came over here (many illegally) they all kick up a fuss about our way of life and constantly stir up stuff in the media when they could just as easily [i]get out of the country if they don't like it here[/i].[/QUOTE] To be honest the issue is not even about the fact they are Muslim or not, it's just merely about them being idiots. The fact eastern european people managed to fit in that well probably pushed then following generations of different immigrants to demand more things at a bigger pace (which I don't consider right or legitimate, don't get me wrong)

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346129]Glad to see you don't immediately diss it. To be honest I tend to dislike it when people call themselves Atheists because it just seems foolish. I mean, sure, if you don't believe in a god you are consequently an Atheist, but in my opinion you shouldn't really care enough about religion to call yourself an Atheist, you should just not call yourself anything. Of course if you are asked what your religion is and you answer that okay but some people actually make Atheism their defining character which is a bit weird and almost idiotic.[/QUOTE] I kind of agree, I do tend to say I don't believe in any higher deity but occasionally I say I'm an Atheist to save a bit of time and breath

[QUOTE=georgeface;39346167]By and large the Polish and Eastern Europeans were accepted after initial hatred because they didn't spread their ways of life, they practiced them but with each other, they never did kick up any fuss, and your right the Middle Eastern and African people generally do, personally I think the borders need to be closed, there are so many homeless people and with 21% of young people unemployed us natives need some breathing room.[/QUOTE] Closing doors isn't going to suddenly fix unemployment and cure world cancer. Fixing your shit government would be a better step further. As for new immigrants demanding impossible shit and wanting to "take over" it's merely a question of education. Countries like the UK and France have been described as countries of freedom and progressiveness so people tend to come here and try to shape it to their own culture without caring about other people. It's not really an issue innate to Islam, and more like an issue linked with entitlement and idiocy.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346184]To be honest the issue is not even about the fact they are Muslim or not, it's just merely about them being idiots. The fact eastern european people managed to fit in that well probably pushed then following generations of different immigrants to demand more things at a bigger pace (which I don't consider right or legitimate, don't get me wrong)[/QUOTE] Well a large proportion of the Eastern European community is sending money back home and probably plan on moving back later on in life, I also think that the next generation of immigrants will be the same, if you mean the children of the migrants then I think that they will be brought up to respect and practice traditions and beliefs that they're parents hold to be important in life, but also to respect and at least acknowledge the 'British way of doing things'

Mixing cultures is an utopia, it doesn't work. We have an organisation called "SOS Racisme" in France which is supposed to help victims of racism. Problem is, not so long ago, a few white dads who were tired of their kids being insulted and shit by arabs at school went up to them and told them about it since the cops didn't do jack shit. Guess what, he was politely asked to leave and said "they'd look into it". Nothing happened, nothing ever happens. They piss on our culture, they don't give a shit about being part of our society, they want it to bend to their rules. As soon as someone tries to bring this to light, he's labelled as a racist by everyone and has to shut up. I'm disgusted by this. Another more personal example, when I'm with my girlfriend in the streets / public transportation, that's fine. But I went to my parents home a week ago to get my driving license, leaving her alone. Right after she dropped me at the train station, around 6pm, she was approached by a bunch of arabs (young ones), she turned them down, they started insulting her calling her a bitch and she had to get off the tram fearing it'd get physical. How the fuck did we end up being afraid of walking alone in our own god damn country for shit reasons such as "you're a woman" or "you look like a weak white boy"? And then you got the same politics asshole telling us how immigration is good, how we're the ones mistreating them, how we should give them more money so they can get a job they will turn down anyways. I fucking wonder how many of them actually lived in a hellhole crowded by immigrants, I wonder how many of them actually ever took a walk in the city. How can you be pro immigration when you're seeing daily abuse from the same faces, how can you be pro immigration when you see the same faces dealing drugs at the same places, with the police not even a few meters away, how can you be pro immigration when you see them with algeria flags on their shirts and screaming shit like "fuck france" or "we algerians are gonna suck your country up until it's algeria"? I would love it if this shit was made up, sadly it's not. I always hated them, but I'm gonna vote Le Pen next election, she's gaining more attention by the day and I can understand why.

The historical Jesus did exist. He was a very popular prophet\cult leader and the Romans saw him as threat since this was at the time of the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. They didn't want a revolution on their hands. They made him a martyr and systematically slaughtered all his followers. That much is true. Now the whole Christianity thing was basically the Romans trying assimilate all the religions of the nations they conquered by merging parts of their culture into one mega religion. Jesus and his teachings spread like wildfire by then despite the Romans having slaughtered his original followers, as some like to say, you can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. So instead of trying to fight it, the Romans embraced it as their center piece of the new Roman religion. To this day the Roman Catholic Church still exist. In a way it was the ancient world's largest conspiracy.