76% of Britons believe Islam is 'not compatible' with our way of life - Polidicks

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346481]Le Pen nailed it : "Evicting illegals from our country is costly, and useless, they'll be back in 2 hours. We need to make sure it's not interesting anymore to try and and get in our country".[/QUOTE] Le Pen is a fucking idiot though. You can't just make a country "not interesting anymore", except if you behead people and put their heads on top of stakes at the frontier which would not be a good idea overall. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=georgeface;39346499]I think it's probably declining due to an emancipation of women[/QUOTE] Japan is a really unbalanced country that is facing a lot of issues.

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346492]Admitting it wouldn't, they'd have no reason to let them in, as the people of Japan, they can do whatever they want with their borders. It's working pretty great for them so far.[/QUOTE] Except for the part where the country may not exist in two hundred years because there's no one left having babies.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346489]I'd much rather have sick illegal immigrants healed for free for ethical and sanitary reasons than see the authorities kick them out in the street and face a country-sized epidemic case of multiresistant tuberculosis.[/QUOTE] Out in the street? They come here and immediatly gets in the nearest hospital knowing fully they'd be treated for free. Stop this shit, heal the ones already there, deport them back to their country and make it illegal. They won't be coming to be treated in our country if they know they won't be.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346505]Le Pen is a fucking idiot though. You can't just make a country "not interesting anymore", except if you behead people and put their heads on top of stakes at the frontier which would not be a good idea overall. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] Japan is a really unbalanced country that is facing a lot of issues.[/QUOTE] I'm not too hot on what's happening in Japan to be honest, but that was just my guess.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39346092]The works of Tacitus and Josephus are chief among the proof of the existence of Jesus of Nazareth, or at least a Jewish preacher of the same time period. They were written about seventy years later, yes, but that's no reason to immediately dismiss them. I find hard to believe the entire religion and the thing holding it together is a lie fabricated by a group of old theologians.[/QUOTE] Except no reference to any Jesus exists before 93 AD. Both those sources were done by men who were born after the event. Secondly I find it strange how in Jerusalem (a centre of learning) and in the Roman Empire in the first century (one of the best recorded eras in history) not a single contemporary source mentions a crucifixion of Jesus or a Jewish holy leader.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39346522]Except for the part where the country may not exist in two hundred years because there's no one left having babies.[/QUOTE] Easy to fix: offer economical advantages to having multiple babies. Bam, problem solved.

[QUOTE=georgeface;39346439]Ok this is going to sound relatively bigoted, but hear me out Gypsies are essentially pirates of the land, they don't really consider themselves to be part of the state, and do ignore all voice of reason and invade owned property. And yes, I agree entitlement is a massive issue but I'm not too sure what you mean about education[/QUOTE] If you don't educate the offspring then it's going to be as worse as everything before it. This is the entire point of remembering past mistakes, for instance why we keep on talking about world war 2 and the nazis rather than just forgetting it has ever happened. If immigrants are being entitled pricks and educate their kids to be entitled pricks as well, it's just going to be one big nasty loop. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346546]Easy to fix: offer economical advantages to having multiple babies. Bam, problem solved.[/QUOTE] We have that thing in France and the result is unemployed divorced moms with 4 kids who can't find a job because no one wants them and they have to rely entirely on the multiple kids advantages to survive.

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346546]Easy to fix: offer economical advantages to having multiple babies. Bam, problem solved.[/QUOTE] So now we're reducing children to financial goods?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346505]Le Pen is a fucking idiot though. You can't just make a country "not interesting anymore", except if you behead people and put their heads on top of stakes at the frontier which would not be a good idea overall.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CYQS55cKaQ[/url] Call her an idiot as much as you want, but first listen to what she has to say. She's making a good point there and give actual solutions that may just work. And no, that doesn't involve beheading people, or being inhumane at all.

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346524]Out in the street? They come here and immediatly gets in the nearest hospital knowing fully they'd be treated for free. Stop this shit, heal the ones already there, deport them back to their country and make it illegal. They won't be coming to be treated in our country if they know they won't be.[/QUOTE] That will never happen because three centuries ago we fought against the monarchy to actually avoid this kind of shit. You can't just expect a country to close its services to a certain population and live on without being assaulted by every other country in the world for being a bunch of closed-up fascists assholes. We made that choice, it made be a hard one, but it's the right one, and there is no going back.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39346569]So now we're reducing children to financial goods?[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? Country doesn't have enough children and is slowly dying : offer mothers the possibility to have more children by helping them. How is that reducing children to financial goods? Western women hard at work don't have the time or the money to take care of multiple children nowadays, we should work on fixing this instead of "patching the problem up" by compensating with immigration.

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346576][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CYQS55cKaQ[/url] Call her an idiot as much as you want, but first listen to what she has to say. She's making a good point there and give actual solutions that may just work. And no, that doesn't involve beheading people, or being inhumane at all.[/QUOTE] Sending back sick people that you may as well heal is perfectly inhumane. Le Pen is a bigoted bitch that knows nothing about anything and is as bad in politics as her father was. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346604]What are you talking about? Country doesn't have enough children and is slowly dying : offer mothers the possibility to have more children by helping them. How is that reducing children to financial goods? Western women hard at work don't have the time or the money to take care of multiple children nowadays, we should work on fixing this instead of "patching the problem up" by compensating with immigration.[/QUOTE] Dude, seriously, there ARE financial helps in France for women with multiple children ,and it's not actually fixing things.

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;39346604]What are you talking about? Country doesn't have enough children and is slowly dying : offer mothers the possibility to have more children by helping them. How is that reducing children to financial goods? Western women hard at work don't have the time or the money to take care of multiple children nowadays, we should work on fixing this instead of "patching the problem up" by compensating with immigration.[/QUOTE] But they're having children because they get money for it. And as Ganerumo said, you get divorced mothers with more children they can handle because they went in for the reward. But oh wait, there are immigrants whose cultural attitudes who don't prevent them from reproducing in sustainable rates, too bad they can't get in.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346597]That will never happen because three centuries ago we fought against the monarchy to actually avoid this kind of shit. You can't just expect a country to close its services to a certain population and live on without being assaulted by every other country in the world for being a bunch of closed-up fascists assholes. We made that choice, it made be a hard one, but it's the right one, and there is no going back.[/QUOTE] I'd suggest you read proper history books instead of simply listening to your history teacher. By the time 1789 happened, we kept the king until 1793. It took another century to have a republic, and even then, our whole "bringing the revolution everywhere in the world" idea wasn't about avoiding this kind of shit, it was about freeing the people IN THEIR country. Yes I can perfectly expect a country to close its services to people that aren't citizens of it and paying taxes. We wouldn't be assaulted by any country for a simple reason : there's a lot of them doing that. Ask the US users about how they treat illegals, they'd probably laugh at us. [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;39346608]Sending back sick people that you may as well heal is perfectly inhumane. Le Pen is a bigoted bitch that knows nothing about anything and is as bad in politics as her father was. [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] Dude, seriously, there ARE financial helps in France for women with multiple children ,and it's not actually fixing things.[/QUOTE] Already done watching that video? Wow you're fast. Maybe you should actually listen to her and then make up your own opinion instead of shitting whatever the biased medias tell you. Oh these financial helps aren't enough, when you have an average job, it's hard to feed 3 kids, then pay for their studies (housing ain't free, neither are books)... and don't even talk about the CROUS, they're planning on cutting spendings next year. [QUOTE=DaysBefore;39346644]But they're having children because they get money for it. And as Ganerumo said, you get divorced mothers with more children they can handle because they went in for the reward. But oh wait, there are immigrants whose cultural attitudes who don't prevent them from reproducing in sustainable rates, too bad they can't get in.[/QUOTE] No they don't, they're having children because it won't be a huge burden for them anymore. As said earlier, having a child is something a lot of working women can't do simply because they don't have the time or the money for it.

i don't think islam is compatible with any modern society but i also don't think hinduism or christianity or judaism or anything like that is compatible as well. they're just stupid myths that at best were used to explain shit before we could explain it ourselves and at worst to justify controlling, conquering or killing people.

[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;39344841]Why did Islam migrate to the UK in the first place?[/QUOTE] to get away from a shit area but they forget why there area is shit to begin with [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;39347340]i don't think islam is compatible with any modern society but i also don't think hinduism or christianity or judaism or anything like that is compatible as well. they're just stupid myths that at best were used to explain shit before we could explain it ourselves and at worst to justify controlling, conquering or killing people.[/QUOTE] I don't think one of thoughs even say that the world is over 4.5 Bill Yrs old

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39344751]People who follow Islam follow a different way of life to western values. They will never integrate but only seek to take over. Maybe if you read the quran abit you will understand that it states that all those who do not follow Islam should either be enslaved or if they go against Islam killed.[/QUOTE] God damn, than that means I'm somehow not fit to live within this country anymore. Geez, thank Allah I have the likes of you to guide me and tell me how I can't assimilate into Western society. And I can't even argue with you scholarly knowledge of the Qur'an either! Better start packing! [editline]24th January 2013[/editline] And now I realize that that was late as fuck.

I don't get why most people here seem to think cultures can be mixed. Alexander the Great encouraged his men to marry woman of the lands conquered. He even integrated lands conquered into his military. His empire may have collapsed due to the lack of naming successor, but the Hellenistic culture remained. [QUOTE=zombojoe;39346257] Now the whole Christianity thing was basically the Romans trying assimilate all the religions of the nations they conquered by merging parts of their culture into one mega religion. Jesus and his teachings spread like wildfire by then despite the Romans having slaughtered his original followers, as some like to say, you can kill a man but you can't kill an idea. So instead of trying to fight it, the Romans embraced it as their center piece of the new Roman religion. To this day the Roman Catholic Church still exist. In a way it was the ancient world's largest conspiracy.[/QUOTE] Not exactly. The Romans didn't exactly embrace the religion. They persecuted the Christians for awhile. It wasn't really until Constantine that Rome really accepted it. Constantine himself chose Christianity. It wasn't tons of Roman senators and aristocrats making some conspiracy to assimilate cultures. It was more of the Church embracing Rome than Rome embracing the Church. Ever wonder why Christmas is the time it is? It was because the Roman holiday Saturnalia. The Church had a good amount of councils to decide the canon of the Church. They wanted to make converts feel as comfortable as possible to adjust to the new very strange religion to the time.

[QUOTE=matt000024;39348545]I don't get why most people here seem to think cultures can be mixed. Alexander the Great encouraged his men to marry woman of the lands conquered. He even integrated lands conquered into his military. His empire may have collapsed due to the lack of naming successor, but the Hellenistic culture remained.[/QUOTE] Yeah dude I for one am getting tired of all these Hoplites running around killing each other in Canada, if only the immigrants would leave!

[QUOTE=Cowabanga;39344763]I have a cousin who happens to be a muslim living in the UK and he's adapted just fine in there. Why can't others?[/QUOTE] Most have adapted fine, as a half turkish muslim brit I have noticed it's usually people of Pakistani origin who clump together But that's just my observation/anecdote

[QUOTE=Matt-;39344592]What? A huge majority of Britons are atheist, religion isn't involved in any of our politics either apart from when it comes to the fact that we have to tolerate ALL religions regardless of their oppressive beliefs.[/QUOTE] Since when are a "huge majority" of Britons atheist? Less than 25% identify as atheist. Many don't have a religion, but still believe in something.

[QUOTE=slayer65;39348725]Since when are a "huge majority" of Britons atheist? Less than 25% identify as atheist. Many don't have a religion, but still believe in something.[/QUOTE] Most people in Britain live their lives as though god doesn't exist or has any influence. I think that is what he meant.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39344751]People who follow Islam follow a different way of life to western values. They will never integrate but only seek to take over. Maybe if you read the quran abit you will understand that it states that all those who do not follow Islam should either be enslaved or if they go against Islam killed.[/QUOTE] I accidentally rated you agree, so I thought you should know you disgust me.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39346530]Except no reference to any Jesus exists before 93 AD. Both those sources were done by men who were born after the event. Secondly I find it strange how in Jerusalem (a centre of learning) and in the Roman Empire in the first century (one of the best recorded eras in history) not a single contemporary source mentions a crucifixion of Jesus or a Jewish holy leader.[/QUOTE] It should certainly call his existence into question at any rate. You would think such an important event would have more records from the year it actually occurred in.

No kidding a religion separated from the west for hundreds of years is suddenly in conflict with a case of identity among western nations raised on Christian culture.

Fundamentalist Islam? I absolutely agree. It is written in the damn book that its their job to make their state a Muslim state.

My last name is Britton, do I win?

[QUOTE=Ishwoo;39346428]Same with gypsy in the UK, [B]they don't pay tax but are entitled to everything that tax payers are entitled to[/B]. No one wants to hire them either because of their long history of a lot of them being kleptomaniacs which actually seems fairly true to an extent, a lot of people round here hate them because if you leave anything that isn't nailed down in view of the street then they'll nab it the moment you turn your back.[/QUOTE] Not true, you can't claim benefits without a permanent address and bank account

76% of britons can believe whatever they want, i don't see why anyone should care

Public opinion is very important, people should care.