Donald Trump cancels Chicago campaign rally over security concerns.
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[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49918972]his reaction to peaceful BLM protestors who protested Bernie early in his campaign:
on the violent reactions by Trump supports within the rallies:
on a video of Trump supporters swarming around a protestor, kicking and punching him:
supporting violence as a viable solution
on protests:
on ejecting peaceful protestors:
more:
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and to answer your question i have watched the majority of Trumps rallys since his campaign began, same with Hillary & Bernie. i find him an interesting figure.[/QUOTE]
While I don't think it is okay to hurt PEACEFUL protesters, I do think it is okay to eject them. Political Rallies are private for people who wish to view and hear, if you are a bernie supporter and wish to go to a Trump rally, YOU CAN, just don't start screaming 'BERNIE 2016 FUCK TRUMP RACIST'. Same goes for someone who is a Trump Supporter at a Bernie rally, don't scream "TRUMP 2016 FUCK BERNIE SANDERS!"
If you interrupt a political rally, it pisses people off because they are trying to listen to the person speak. Again, if you are a peaceful protester, you should be outside of the premises, not infiltrating and interrupting.
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;49918936]If you think infiltrating a rally, then proceeding to scream on the top of your lungs "FUCK TRUMP" and taking TRUMP 2016 signs from other people and ripping them in half, and then proceeding to kick them is okay, then you really don't know the definition of a "peaceful" protest.
Case in point
[video=youtube;Kd6pVAb_tHs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6pVAb_tHs&feature=youtu.be&list=LLyfhR25WRwxC-VdUPYgU09g[/video]
Go to timestamp 1:57, you will see a bernie/blm supporter dressed up as a trump supporter taking a TRUMP 2016 sign, ripping it up, and when the girl tries to get it back, they begin to kick her.
THAT IS NOT PEACEFUL[/QUOTE]uh.. what about the other hundreds of people who arent fighting??
[QUOTE=Vasili;49918990]Someone just tried to attack Trump during a rally
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgj1IR7J_Yc[/media][/QUOTE]
The comments on [url=https://twitter.com/MashableNews/status/708698676445712384]twitter[/url] about this video are batshit insane.
If this is the mindset, might as well disband the Secret Service and let the president fed off attackers by himself.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49919001]uh.. what about the other hundreds of people who arent fighting??[/QUOTE]
That isnt the point. Those people exist at all the rallys all the time.
What about the actual violent and problem causing ones? Do you really want a discussion on "Peaceful protestors dislike Trump!" like where the fuck do you think that would go? We can have that talk anytime.
Everyones focusing on the violent ones because its hypocritical and retarded and worth discussing.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49918815]why does Donald Trump incite violence as a viable way of dealing with protestors at his rallies?[/QUOTE]
It's hilarious and in the moment. Now it's not hilarious when punches are actually thrown.
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The SA started by protecting Hitler rallies from hecklers and disruptive people. Just saying.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49917870]there is a gd thread and a mod forum thread for it[/QUOTE]Huh, goes to show how often I check GD these days.
[QUOTE=Conscript;49919023]Just saying.[/QUOTE]
Saying what my man
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49918993]All the ones of kicking out protesters were all said in joking manners, even the one I gave is in your list.
Yeah, look at your last one. "He was swinging and hitting people and PEOPLE hit back" yeah what a fucking travesty DEFENDING yourself.
I dont see HIS supporters starting any of the shit.
Only damning one is the Tomato one.
Also the BLM protesters were hardly peaceful. They took over the stage and got the mic from Bernie as he sulked in the corner. Thats not actually straight up peaceful.
But I didnt realize this made it okay for anti-trump supporters to START the violence.
He also isnt wrong in the slightest that back in the day people would get more roughed up. How is being historically accurate some horrible travesty?[/QUOTE]"Yeah, look at your last one. "He was swinging and hitting people and PEOPLE hit back" yeah what a fucking travesty DEFENDING yourself. " various security details & reporters reported that said person was not punching anybody, it literally said that in the next sentence.
"But I didnt realize this made it okay for anti-trump supporters to START the violence." i did not say anything about this, you asked me to show you some quotes from Trump, inciting or implying violence is a reasonable solution to a problem
"Also the BLM protesters were hardly peaceful. They took over the stage and got the mic from Bernie as he sulked in the corner. Thats not actually straight up peaceful." yes they were. sulked in a corner, what do you want him to do? be more... violent? lmao
i'm glad you think violence against protestors or violence against anyone is seemingly okay for Trump to make light of
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49919014]That isnt the point. Those people exist at all the rallys all the time.
What about the actual violent and problem causing ones? Do you really want a discussion on "Peaceful protestors dislike Trump!" like where the fuck do you think that would go? We can have that talk anytime.
Everyones focusing on the violent ones because its hypocritical and retarded and worth discussing.[/QUOTE]you're having your own little argument with yourself seemingly, i was replying to a person who said i did not know what a peaceful rally was and then used a video of a minority of people ripping up posters as proof of that. my reply of 'hundreds of people' is relevant because that is what i was talking about with the person i replied to.
[QUOTE=Conscript;49919023]The SA started by protecting Hitler rallies from hecklers and disruptive people. Just saying.[/QUOTE]
This just in: Having any form of protection at your rallies makes you Hitler and a nazi.
[editline]12th March 2016[/editline]
Also this shit is bound to boil over eventually, and I'm pretty sure that if someone attacks Trump, it'll most likely end up with other candidates being attacked in revenge.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49919047]"Yeah, look at your last one. "He was swinging and hitting people and PEOPLE hit back" yeah what a fucking travesty DEFENDING yourself. " various security details & reporters reported that said person was not punching anybody, it literally said that in the next sentence.
"But I didnt realize this made it okay for anti-trump supporters to START the violence." i did not say anything about this, you asked me to show you some quotes from Trump, inciting or implying violence is a reasonable solution to a problem
"Also the BLM protesters were hardly peaceful. They took over the stage and got the mic from Bernie as he sulked in the corner. Thats not actually straight up peaceful." yes they were. sulked in a corner, what do you want him to do? be more... violent? lmao
i'm glad you think violence against protestors or violence against anyone is seemingly okay for Trump to make light of
you're having your own little argument with yourself seemingly, i was replying to a person who said i did not know what a peaceful rally was and then used a video of a minority of people ripping up posters as proof of that. my reply of 'hundreds of people' is relevant because that is what i was talking about with the person i replied to.[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep referring to them as protesters?
[QUOTE=Octavius;49919018]If you don't see his supporters starting shit then I'm pretty sure you must be blind, cause that's exactly what happened here in Chicago.[/QUOTE]
Such as? Seems like anti-trump supporters their already didnt need more reason, they already went with their already established reasons for disliking him and supporters.
Which supporters were starting attacks? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;49919066]Why do you keep referring to them as protesters?[/QUOTE]because i'm specifically talking about instances of protestors being attacked & dragged out of rallies, because his reply is a reply to my reply about Trump talking about protestors?
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49919047]"Yeah, look at your last one. "He was swinging and hitting people and PEOPLE hit back" yeah what a fucking travesty DEFENDING yourself. " various security details & reporters reported that said person was not punching anybody, it literally said that in the next sentence.
"But I didnt realize this made it okay for anti-trump supporters to START the violence." i did not say anything about this, you asked me to show you some quotes from Trump, inciting or implying violence is a reasonable solution to a problem
"Also the BLM protesters were hardly peaceful. They took over the stage and got the mic from Bernie as he sulked in the corner. Thats not actually straight up peaceful." yes they were. sulked in a corner, what do you want him to do? be more... violent? lmao
i'm glad you think violence against protestors or violence against anyone is seemingly okay for Trump to make light of
you're having your own little argument with yourself seemingly, i was replying to a person who said i did not know what a peaceful rally was and then used a video of a minority of people ripping up posters as proof of that. my reply of 'hundreds of people' is relevant because that is what i was talking about with the person i replied to.[/QUOTE]
How is taking over a stage from someone peaceful? Peaceful would be saying shit from where you were standing and not having to literally force yourself to over someone else who was giving a peaceful rally.
The way your posts come off are straight up "But Trump supporters said things!" and seemingly ignoring that people were attacking Trump supporters. Like its somehow not a big issue since its just Trump fans.
Peaceful Protesting isnt storming a privately owned building, a privately ran event, and being as loud as possible.
Ill make light of violence if its someone committing that act first and THEN getting thrown out. Yeah I will, do you think everyone needs hugs or some shit?
I love USA, best show on the planet.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49919080]because i'm specifically talking about instances of protestors being attacked & dragged out of rallies, because his reply is a reply to my reply about Trump talking about protestors?[/QUOTE]
Which ones get attacked first?
They get "dragged" out for their safety FYI so they obviously dont get attacked by dumbasses and the fact they disrupt a private event on private property.
We're slowly devolving into another civil war. Cool.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;49919117]We're slowly devolving into another civil war. Cool.[/QUOTE]
Koreans on rooftops: Part two boogaloo
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49919105]How is taking over a stage from someone peaceful? Peaceful would be saying shit from where you were standing and not having to literally force yourself to over someone else who was giving a peaceful rally.
The way your posts come off are straight up "But Trump supporters said things!" and seemingly ignoring that people were attacking Trump supporters. Like its somehow not a big issue since its just Trump fans.
Peaceful Protesting isnt storming a privately owned building, a privately ran event, and being as loud as possible.
Ill make light of violence if its someone committing that act first and THEN getting thrown out. Yeah I will, do you think everyone needs hugs or some shit?[/QUOTE]... i don't agree with violence on either side, i came to the conversation saying that Trump has also incited violence so he's not really in a position to condemn it when it's coming from small pockets of the other side
also he shook their hand and handed them the microphone
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[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49918995]Did someone on the floor have a gun or something?[/QUOTE]
I knife supposedly, but people are saying he jumped the fences.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;49919122]... i don't agree with violence on either side, i came to the conversation saying that Trump has also incited violence so he's not really in a position to condemn it when it's coming from small pockets of the other side
also he shook their hand and handed them the microphone[/QUOTE]
Do you have a clip where trump incites violence, I'm genuinely interested because i haven't seen any of that from him.
[QUOTE=Octavius;49919126]Trump supporters at the event were attacking the anti-Trump protesters. It's pretty simple. After that, shit broke down further.
Overall though, the anti-Trump protesters weren't going there to start violence, and didn't start the violence.[/QUOTE]
Any proof of this? Where are you getting this information? Seemed way more the anti-trump starting shit. I mean look at twitter all week over it, people literally egging people on to kill him.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuoRwl-qP2E[/media]
More protesters jumping the fence, happened on the live cam.
[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;49919207]Do you have a clip where trump incites violence, I'm genuinely interested because i haven't seen any of that from him.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;ZCkQbASQWF0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkQbASQWF0[/video]
Various examples, including him explicitly saying that he wanted to punch a guy in the face.
You should pay more attention.
also other angle from the other one.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8[/media]
So how do I get a job as Trump's security detail? Seems to be a lucrative career right about now :v:
[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;49919253]also other angle from the other one.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8[/media][/QUOTE]
"Kick his ass, Donald! Stomp it!"
Bunch of fucking animals.
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