Verizon CEO Wants To Charge Video Gamers More Money For Internet Access
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These company's act as if they are the internet. Yet in reality they aren't.
[quote]It turns out that this issue was because of peering congestion[/quote]
How about your upgrade your network instead of blaming your customers. If you continually see this issue the problem isn't your customer.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;44086226]Funny how things that were invented to change the world and be freely accessible fall into the hands of greedy assbags. Telephones were supposed to be free. Electricity was supposed to be free. And the internet was supposed to be free. Funny how things work out.[/QUOTE]
Not defending this in the slightest but it doesn't work quite that way since maintenance is required
[QUOTE=TheTalon;44086236]That's what he's saying, to the customers.
Bandwidth is Bandwidth Supply it or don't. Stop trying to control what people use it for. You already have monthly caps in place, so what's the problem? Oh, right. I forgot. This is the United States. You want more money[/QUOTE]
Verizon has data caps?
Verizon is a bunch of cheap shady assholes.
They were giving us a connection that was a quarter what we paid for and then refused to repair the line when literally only one cable in the bundle was intact.
They flat out told us they wouldn't ahem "upgrade the infrastructure" to allow for higher internet access which was complete horse shit because we got a 90 mbps line from Time Warner for about the same price Verizon was giving us for a "3 mbps line" (that was almost always slower then dial up)
Uh, no. We're already paying for a speed cap, if we use it full speed 24/7 the we just get what we paid for.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;44086334]Verizon has data caps?[/QUOTE]
Not to my knowledge. Not for home internet anyway.
[QUOTE]It turns out that this issue was because of peering congestion, which means that the middleman system Netflix uses to stream content to Verizon customers couldn’t handle the traffic that was flowing through it.[/QUOTE]
Or you could only sell what you can actually support instead of overselling like a bitch. If I'm paying for 25Mbps transfer then I should be able to use that 25Mbps transfer regardless of peak hours. If your infrastructure can't support it -- especially after the huge FTTH push -- then that's your problem and you should upgrade it.
And if it's a capacity issue with a specific upstream carrier netflix is favoring then upgrade your connection with them.
It's not exactly rocket science and you shouldn't punish your end users because you have a crappy network.
If I can pay for 1Gbps unmetered at $400/Month through Hurricane Electric and it's not oversold you should be able to support 25Mbps at $60/month or whatever they charge these days.
[QUOTE]investment to keep the Web healthy[/QUOTE]
let's keep the Web healthy by strangling the life out of it and bashing it's heads against a wall until it starts crying and begging for us to stop in exchange for anything
Verizon throttles your speed if you use a lot, it's silly.
Verizon lies about the data caps. If you use a lot of bandwidth they'll start throttling you regardless of what they say.
just use att uverse internet until google fiber gets to your neighborhood.
i've never heard about anyone from att doing dumb bullshit with their internet
This is really shitty, I thought verizon was one of the better companies because back in the FCC study they had the only internet connection where they didn't secretly screw you over time and in fact gave you around 115% of what you paid for consistently
[img]http://cdn.arstechnica.net/2011/08/03/fcc-chart-updated-4e39641-intro.png[/img]
it's about time for google fibre to save the US
lol look how behind the times America already is on internet in a lot of places and they are really trying to tell us that this is a thing we have to do to "keep the web healthy?"
keep dreaming, motherfuckers
I understand him wanting to tackle torrents; as a Consultant I can understand the havoc both legal and system wide issues torrents can bring.
but most gaming traffic is UDP so I don't see why anyone would care about small no SLA on packet traffic.
Yea, how about fuck you, you piece of shit. Glad I'm moving soon so I don't have to deal with Verizon's crap.
Say, what are some good internet providers in the US that aren't super greedy and have at least decent speeds?
[QUOTE=Destroyox;44086634]Yea, how about fuck you, you piece of shit. Glad I'm moving soon so I don't have to deal with Verizon's crap.
Say, what are some good internet providers in the US that aren't super greedy and have at least decent speeds?[/QUOTE]
for 60/mo this owns
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I don't see what people are complaining about the article sounds like he wants to stop torrents. If that's the case I understand his reasoning since it is mostly impossible to sort out who is torrenting linux distros and who is torrenting pirated material.
Besides most local collages host HTTP mirrors for distros which are fast enough.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44086198]Not all at once, that'd take ages.
We're still going to be shafted for a good 20 years before it spreads around majorly. (especially us here in the south)[/QUOTE]
Google plans to expand to 34 cities, including the south, like Atlanta for instance. It's probably gonna take a few year though. ;/
Verizon's CEO Right now
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I am so fucking glad Verizon sold their FiOS contracts to Frontier in my area.
[QUOTE=Sodisna;44086852]Google plans to expand to 34 cities, including the south, like Atlanta for instance. It's probably gonna take a few year though. ;/[/QUOTE]
Plus the giant telecom companies in the planned areas are lobbying for Google Fiber to be banned under the guise of "fairness". I guess it's not "fair" that Google isn't playing monopoly with them and is trying to blow them out of the water instead. They might have to.. [I]compete[/I]! Oh god! [B]The horror![/B]
[QUOTE=Elspin;44086579]This is really shitty, I thought verizon was one of the better companies because back in the FCC study they had the only internet connection where they didn't secretly screw you over time and in fact gave you around 115% of what you paid for consistently
[img]http://cdn.arstechnica.net/2011/08/03/fcc-chart-updated-4e39641-intro.png[/img]
it's about time for google fibre to save the US[/QUOTE]
oh god hookey sticks!
[QUOTE=Stroma;44085920]i think everyone should have to pay less for internet you greedy fucks[/QUOTE] I think no one should have to pay for Internet at all.
[QUOTE=mc lovin;44086700]for 60/mo this owns
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I don't see what people are complaining about the article sounds like he wants to stop torrents. If that's the case I understand his reasoning since it is mostly impossible to sort out who is torrenting linux distros and who is torrenting pirated material.
Besides most local collages host HTTP mirrors for distros which are fast enough.[/QUOTE]
using piracy as an excuse for poor service is no excuse for poor service
[editline]1st March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Steve Stump;44087193]I think no one should have to pay for Internet at all.[/QUOTE]
minitel kinda proved that there needs to be SOME comercial and private investment in the internet, but the amount of sway shareholders and the bottom line have over the ISPs is disgusting, also they should make it illegal to be providing TV service while forcing competing services like Netflix to pay more to use the internet than any other data providers, timewarner can litterally provide gigabytes of data straight to their cable boxes yet they crap out trying to send more than 10-15 mb/s to my router which IS THE FUCKING SAME THING
[QUOTE=Sableye;44087183]oh god hookey sticks![/QUOTE]
did you mean to say hockey sticks
also yeah cablevision is basically the antichrist
Die of a painful disease Verison.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44087151]Plus the giant telecom companies in the planned areas are lobbying for Google Fiber to be banned under the guise of "fairness". I guess it's not "fair" that Google isn't playing monopoly with them and is trying to blow them out of the water instead. They might have to.. [I]compete[/I]! Oh god! [B]The horror![/B][/QUOTE]
Businesses are being fucking ridiculous when it comes to shit like this. They cry and complain that there's too much government involved in their business, but then an actual competitor comes along and they whine and cry to the elected officials to do something about it because it's not the kind of free market THEY wanted.
oh my fucking god, fuck off with all this bullshit jesus christ.
[QUOTE=mc lovin;44086700]for 60/mo this owns
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I don't know about you, but this is what I get from Verizon for the same exact price
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If I want to throttle my service even further just because I like downloading games, then I mind as well just switch back to dial-up. I'm only lucky I'm in a grandfathered plan so I still have unlimited. If there's one thing Verizon is good for, at least, it's honoring grandfathered unlimited plans.
[QUOTE=mc lovin;44086700]for 60/mo this owns
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I don't see what people are complaining about the article sounds like he wants to stop torrents. If that's the case I understand his reasoning since it is mostly impossible to sort out who is torrenting linux distros and who is torrenting pirated material.
Besides most local collages host HTTP mirrors for distros which are fast enough.[/QUOTE]
For $63 a month I only get 15 down/2 up. Hooray for shitty little towns.
Living in a city with Google Fiber is a godsend. Fuck Verizon, Time Warner, AT&T, et cetera
scum like this is why gaming is slowly dipping to the cesspool this is not just detrimental to gaming but society itself they should fuck off
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