Microsoft Will Not Support Upcoming Processors Except On Windows 10 - Polidicks

imagine not wanting a free upgrade honestly at this point, you could replace windows 7 or 8 with windows xp when it comes to people complaining about upgrading and you'd get the same old stupid fucking arguments

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;49542021]imagine not wanting a free upgrade honestly at this point, you could replace windows 7 or 8 with windows xp when it comes to people complaining about upgrading and you'd get the same old stupid fucking arguments[/QUOTE] Even though I have windows 7 and 8.1 I [B]STILL[/B] bought windows 10 simply because it's less of a headache to reformat on a clean slate and yet I still believe it was worth it. that being said, I mean, free upgrade yeah but they are being pretty forceful, no? It's no wonder people are annoyed. Comfort in your computer gives you confidence, and like, if it isn't broken, why fix it? At least we won't see the XP effect, and this will all pass when everyone has been assimilated.

For fucks sake. Now the hardware is going to get gimped if you don't move on. I can understand problems with XP and Vista perhaps. But 7 and 8/8.1 aren't that old. At least not 8.1.

[QUOTE=J!NX;49542024]Even though I have windows 7 and 8.1 I [B]STILL[/B] bought windows 10 simply because it's less of a headache to reformat on a clean slate and yet I still believe it was worth it. that being said, I mean, free upgrade yeah but they are being pretty forceful, no? It's no wonder people are annoyed. Comfort in your computer gives you confidence. At least we won't see the XP effect, and this will all pass when everyone has been assimilated.[/QUOTE] well that's the reason MS is being forceful, to not have the xp effect anymore. But if you're on 8/8.1 you've got no reason to not upgrade, in fact if you haven't even upgraded to 8.1 on 8 you're a fucking idiot Forcefulness sucks and does kind of destroy consumer confidence but at the same time, MS has this new vision for how windows is going to be (kind of like OSX styled upgrades) so they need everyone over for them to do it

[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;49541979]At this rate I just want to give up computers as a hobby entirely, buy a tablet for important shit like tax and banking, and start building model planes or some other boring shit. I don't want to switch to their botnet crap, but I guess that means I don't want to play new games anymore either.[/QUOTE] Microsoft sends information from your PC (which could easily be crash dumps)? How dare they, MicroNSAft! Microsoft doesn't send information, and can't fix a problem reported in multiple PCs because of it? Well yeah I'd update if it didn't crash so much! Microsoft pushes W10 as hard as possible? Wow what the hell, my computer my rules! Microsoft doesn't do it, having less users on it (showing developers that making stuff compatible with it is low priority)? Yeah no not going to upgrade, W7 is compatible with more things. [editline]16th January 2016[/editline] Oh yeah, obligatory anecdotal evidence: I had 0 driver issues, 0 crashes, 0 'shareware' programs uninstalled.

The ones who are really fucked by this are Scientists and a lot of the industry. I'm in Geophysics and we have to use a lot of programs that run on Windows only and we have to upgrade fairly often because the data gets bigger and bigger, especially with the new satellites. Now pretty much any IT guy here, the industry, everyone you'll ask recommends not to upgrade to Win10. It's a pain in the ass to administrate, it majorly fucks working because it doesn't support some tried and tested standards. But what's more important is that a lot of our data is classified for several reasons, government, laws, economic strategies(we cooperate with a lot of buisinesses) and so on. But with Win10 you defacto grant Microsoft access to each and every piece of data you use within it. Maybe this will give the Linux world the incentive to go into a more productive direction. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux but my productivity is significantly lower because I have to look up so much shit time and time again. it's often so needlessly complicated.

[QUOTE=Coment;49542081]Microsoft sends information from your PC (which could easily be crash dumps)? How dare they, MicroNSAft! Microsoft doesn't send information, and can't fix a problem reported in multiple PCs because of it? Well yeah I'd update if it didn't crash so much![/QUOTE] Choice? I really hate that Microsoft is giving 10 away for free because it enables mindsets like this, that it's perfectly fine for them to remove choice from the users. [quote]Microsoft pushes W10 as hard as possible? Wow what the hell, my computer my rules! Microsoft doesn't do it, having less users on it (showing developers that making stuff compatible with it is low priority)? Yeah no not going to upgrade, W7 is compatible with more things.[/quote] Erm, so people should be forced to deal with their favorite/important programs not being compatible in the hope that the developers will eventually notice their plight and update the software to be compatible? It's the next major version of Windows, not some random operating system no one has heard of, even if it wasn't being pushed by Microsoft like their lives depended on forcing everyone to use Windows 10, the number of people using it would likely be higher than every non-windows (desktop) OS, which is a plenty large market share to commit resources to making the software compatible. Also, good for you that you didn't have any problems; I have no interest in spending the time and effort to update just to maybe find out stuff doesn't work (and then have to revert back to 8.1) when I already have an OS that [B]should[/B] be fully supported for another 2 years and works perfectly fine already. This isn't XP; people aren't clinging to their massively outdated OS that isn't even getting security updates anymore. Not everyone wants (let alone needs) to jump to the shiny new OS when the one they have is perfectly fine.

[QUOTE=Satane;49542077]"free", "upgrade" LOL[/QUOTE] Go on...

[QUOTE=Satane;49542077]"free", "upgrade" LOL[/QUOTE] ... But it is a free upgrade

[QUOTE=paul simon;49542166]... But it is a free upgrade[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=rampageturke 2;49542160]Go on...[/QUOTE] Except you're paying for it [I]~with your soul[/I]

Seems pretty clickbait if I understand it right. To me, it seems like Microsoft is saying they won't support newer processor extensions in anything less than Windows 10, which is their right and isn't monetarily worth the effort. They also probably won't provide much official support for companies running older versions of Windows on newer hardware, but the newer processors would still work on older versions (albeit not as optimal as they would on Windows 10). I dislike the whole push onto Windows 10, but I honestly don't see anything "evil" about what they are doing in regards to not backporting newer processor extensions onto their older maintenance-only operating systems.

I don't like the idea of Win10 being able to detect and disable whatever stuff they deem "counterfeit" nor do I want to screw around with the potential (and numerous) bugs or errors that would ensue were I to promote such a shift.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;49542224]I don't like the idea of Win10 being able to detect and disable whatever stuff they deem "counterfeit" nor do I want to screw around with the potential (and numerous) bugs or errors that would ensue were I to promote such a shift.[/QUOTE] Win10 hasn't given me any more problems than previous installments of Windows. But then again I'm not the kind of person who likes overreacting and being paranoid.

[QUOTE=paul simon;49542238]Win10 hasn't given me any more problems than previous installments of Windows. But then again I'm not the kind of person who likes overreacting and being paranoid.[/QUOTE] I'm not paranoid, I just don't plan on updating to Win10 until the last minute when I know there'll be better driver support out there for my stuff.

I haven't found any compatiblity issues with any game i played

[QUOTE=MIPS;49541966]OS X has a whitelist that prevents it being installed on less-than-modern machines. For example you could run 10.9 on the original Mac Pro but the installer simply says it isn't supported.[/QUOTE] Okay, yeah that's true. However, there's a difference between old hardware not being compatible with a new os and new hardware not being compatible with an old os. It feels more like how directx worked (or works?) where eventhough you had a dx10/11/12 shader compatible graphics card, you were still limited by your current version of windows. I remember how people "unlocked" dx10 features for crysis that were "exclusive" to win7

If it aint broken, don't try to fix it.

[QUOTE=V12US;49542357]If it aint broken, don't try to fix it.[/QUOTE] I fucking hate this argument so much Why aren't people still using horses to get around? "If it's not broken, don't fix it"! Oh wait, it's because cars and bikes are better in every single way When MS (or any other company) makes a new OS, they're not trying to "fix" the old one, they're improving on it

So again, why should I switch from 7 to 10, Microsoft? Apart from your forced "if you're on a version lower than 10, thing X will be disabled"

Windows 7.. the new Windows XP?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;49542021]imagine not wanting a free upgrade honestly at this point, you could replace windows 7 or 8 with windows xp when it comes to people complaining about upgrading and you'd get the same old stupid fucking arguments[/QUOTE] imagine your computer getting bricked every time you try to upgrade

[QUOTE=dustyjo;49542423]imagine your computer getting bricked every time you try to upgrade[/QUOTE] "every time" You've not really bricked it if you were able to retry multiple times.

I would upgrade... if my stuff worked on Windows 10. It's stuff like this that makes me want to go to something like Linux, but... my applications...

Lets be honest guys. I doubt Microsoft will full out block windows 7 installations on newer cpus, the installer will probably just give some warning. Even if they do try to block it, a workaround will be found in about 5 minutes by the community. Also, most of the problems with windows 10 i see are with older hardware. If you have the latest and greatest CPU, odds are that your hardware is modern enough for 10

I've used Windows 10 for awhile but am thinking of going back to Windows 7 due to some annoying problems it has and wait until Microsoft polish it up before trying it out again.

[QUOTE=Medevila;49542451]ya you're right, being told you can't use compatible hardware with OS X is worse than support for the bleeding edge only being included in the latest OS[/QUOTE] You may think whatever you want, I ain't saying it's good practice on either side, but I'd rather not being forced to upgrade to win10 just because I want to buy a new CPU than accepting that I have to stay on an older os version on an older machine

I should look into Linux, because this is just taxing on the tolerance. You try to force something on someone the less they will want it.

[QUOTE=Satane;49542077]"free", "upgrade" LOL[/QUOTE] yeah windows 10 actually charges your credit card and deteriorates your ram WAKE UP SHEEPLE

I've switched from Windows XP to Windows 7 few months ago and i ain't planning to switch anywhere for couple of years. I've still got Windows XP installed on second disc aswell. Checkmate Microsoft :v:

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;49541728]why are they pushing windows 10 this much?[/QUOTE] Because there are companies that are still using Windows 98, never mind XP. Every time a new Windows OS comes out it means they have to pay to support another generation of hardware, and ensure all the different OSes are capable of working together. At this point it's past getting ridiculous. If you work in IT you have to know at least Windows XP, 7, 8.1, and 10 and all their tiny annoying differences. And that doesn't include specialist knowledge if you get involved with legacy system which can't upgrade, so you have to learn arcane bullshit for old OSes like 2000, 98 and even 95 is very rare cases. All the annoying headaches people in the IT field have to put up with every day could be drastically reduced if everyone was brought up to using a modern, standardised OS. I think they're going a little too far in their goal of leaving everything pre-10 behind, but it's not unreasonable for them to not want to have to support decade+ old technology that are riddled with security holes and incompatible with most modern programs and features.