Microsoft Will Not Support Upcoming Processors Except On Windows 10

[Demache]

[QUOTE=damnatus;49544771]I don't want any of that from the sound of it (I don't think it will be 2x faster than 7 for example)

The biggest reason is that I am afraid that whatever software I use will be incompatible with it. I've also heard lots of people going "I couldn't even install it because drivers and stuff"[/QUOTE]

For the most part, if the software you run is compatible with Vista or newer, your not going to see any issues unless you run some really niche software. Or badly coded software that was hacked together.

Drivers and stuff are a crapshoot as its going to depend on your hardware, and not really a fault of the OS itself. Vista or newer drivers will work mostly OK with 10, with varying levels of functionality. Some installers will bitch, but that's why you run them in compatibility mode to trick them into you running 7 or something. And a lot of older hardware have the drivers baked in to 10 already (my 2006 laptop had all of its drivers, except the SD card reader). If your hardware is new enough to have 8 drivers, I can almost guarantee you'll be fine.

[damnatus]

Ah, forgot the most important argument: I don't care enough to wait for the upgrade to complete :v:

[Demache]

[QUOTE=damnatus;49544879]Ah, forgot the most important argument: I don't care enough to wait for the upgrade to complete :v:[/QUOTE]

Takes about 30 minutes tops. :v:

[Map in a box]

[QUOTE=Demache;49544915]Takes about 30 minutes tops. :v:[/QUOTE]

very long if you keep forgetting to do it when you're done using your computer :v:

[Demache]

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49544921]very long if you keep forgetting to do it when you're done using your computer :v:[/QUOTE]

I'll give you that.

[Monkah]

[QUOTE=cNova;49541803]At this point we shoud change the OS and go to the competition
but.. theres none[/QUOTE]

I switched one of my computers to Arch Linux. Working on my desktop right now.

[apierce1289]

[QUOTE=MIPS;49541713]I'm getting some serious OS X vibes here....[/QUOTE]

Yep I'm thinking of my next computer being a Mac book pro Windows is going to shit real fast with all the bloat ware and now this shit.

[Map in a box]

[QUOTE=apierce1289;49545318]Yep I'm thinking of my next computer being a Mac book pro Windows is going to shit real fast with all the [B]bloat ware[/B] and now this shit.[/QUOTE]

citation needed

[Curls]

[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;49542390]I fucking hate this argument so much

Why aren't people still using horses to get around? "If it's not broken, don't fix it"!
Oh wait, it's because cars and bikes are better in every single way

When MS (or any other company) makes a new OS, they're not trying to "fix" the old one, they're improving on it[/QUOTE]

well, no, because horses are a fundamentally broken method of travel, and we don't want our streets to literally be covered in animal shit

it's also a massive improvement VS w7 to w10 isn't really too massive of a leap

[Map in a box]

w7 to w10 is a massive leap
in performance, capability, power, security, and more.

[Phygon]

[QUOTE=cNova;49541803]At this point we shoud change the OS and go to the competition
but.. theres none[/QUOTE]
Linux, man
For everything but gaming it's objectively better

[Shovel Mech]

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49545594]w7 to w10 is a massive leap
in performance, capability, power, security, and more.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, backwards.

[Map in a box]

[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49545749]Yeah, backwards.[/QUOTE]

how can you actually say w7 is more secure and is faster than w10

[Curls]

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49545805]how can you actually say w7 is more secure and is faster than w10[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49545749]Yeah, backwards.[/QUOTE]

[img]https://facepunch.com/fp/browser/linux.png[/img]

[Sgt. Napalm]

[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49545749]Yeah, backwards.[/QUOTE]

i dont believe you

[Del91]

[QUOTE=J!NX;49542024]Even though I have windows 7 and 8.1 I [B]STILL[/B] bought windows 10 simply because it's less of a headache to reformat on a clean slate

and yet I still believe it was worth it.

that being said, I mean, free upgrade yeah but they are being pretty forceful, no? It's no wonder people are annoyed. Comfort in your computer gives you confidence, and like, if it isn't broken, why fix it?

At least we won't see the XP effect, and this will all pass when everyone has been assimilated.[/QUOTE]

But... You can reformat after upgrading to win 10?

[JohnFisher89]

[QUOTE=phygon;49545723]Linux, man
For everything but gaming it's objectively better[/QUOTE]

Until you need to install flash...or run a specific java version...or type a MS office doc for work... or cisco vpn... or need properly working ACPI controls... WLAN drivers that work properly on new HW... etc

I can tell you that no Linux is not objectively better at everything aside from gaming, if it were then people would just dual boot; which is a complete 100% free option that you can do! However, no one does it because the small shit that 90% of users don't think about just being a simple click or already done is a manual/requires setup thing on linux.

[editline]17th January 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=Del91;49545873]But... You can reformat after upgrading to win 10?[/QUOTE]

You can but win7 keys don't work so you have to install 7 first then upgrade

[Giraffen93]

even if i look past all the botnet stuff, w10 is just too gimped for me to have it as a main operating system
tablet to watch movies on? sure.. but everything is just hidden behind smiley menus and making the user experience as "painless" as possible

i want to see all the error codes and debug info, no two colored settings menu, the metro settings in windows 8 is bad as it is, i avoid going there at all costs, but there's some stuff that's forcefully moved in there

[woolio1]

To be fair, this isn't totally a terrible decision.

The idea with Windows 10 is that, going forward, updates will be more like service packs and less like total overhauls. If Windows 10 is going to be the last version of Windows, then getting everybody on board as soon as possible is the best thing you can do.

They're kind of being dicks about it, but their logic is solid.

[Stalketeer]

For daily activity I use Android master race anyway

[Ghost901]

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49545894]

You can but win7 keys don't work so you have to install 7 first then upgrade[/QUOTE] Pretty sure they do now. I reformatted a few weeks ago and used my w8 key.

You gotta use a recent ISO image.

[aydin690]

[QUOTE=SpaceDude;49541904]Yeah man, they're dropping support for most likely the most used version of Windows that is also the best to run every types of games without compatibility issues, those literal fucking nazis!!!![/QUOTE]

They're not exactly 'dropping' support. They're just not adding new features to the 7 year old OS. If you're buying a new skylake cpu, chances are it's a whole new build. Sooo, install the new OS on the new computer??

[JohnFisher89]

[QUOTE=ghost901;49545967]Pretty sure they do now. I reformatted a few weeks ago and used my w8 key.

You gotta use a recent ISO image.[/QUOTE]

Windows 8 keys work fine, win 7 do not

[Canuhearme?]

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;49541728]why are they pushing windows 10 this much?[/QUOTE]

Isn't Windows 10 the one with tons of surveillance tech?

[aydin690]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49546180]Isn't Windows 10 the one with tons of surveillance tech?[/QUOTE]

'Tons of surveillance tech', lol. They're not collecting any more data than google or facebook or any of these big other companies have been doing for years and almost all of it can be turned off.

[woolio1]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49546180]Isn't Windows 10 the one with tons of surveillance tech?[/QUOTE]

Analytics.

[apierce1289]

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49545594]w7 to w10 is a massive leap
in performance, capability, power, security, and more.[/QUOTE]

I'd just be happy if they got rid of the Bing ad ware and bloat ware. That's the only stuff I dislike.

[JohnFisher89]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49546180]Isn't Windows 10 the one with tons of surveillance tech?[/QUOTE]

I hope you don't

use any google funded browser Chrome or firefox, or privately funded browser outside opera
use any hosted mail source yahoo, gmail, live, etc
use any search engine aside from shit ones like DDG which still is questionable
use any credit card ever
sign up for any special offers anywhere for anything such as free appitizers at a resturant or store value card

Data mining has been going on for before most of FP was born, if you are honestly just now concerned about it then you are about 60 years late

[Map in a box]

[QUOTE=apierce1289;49546322]I'd just be happy if they got rid of the Bing ad ware and bloat ware. That's the only stuff I dislike.[/QUOTE]

so you're using a subsidized version of the os(which i don't even think windows 10 has) and want no ads

[Shovel Mech]

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49546362]I hope you don't

use any google funded browser Chrome or firefox, or privately funded browser outside opera
use any hosted mail source yahoo, gmail, live, etc
use any search engine aside from shit ones like DDG which still is questionable
use any credit card ever
sign up for any special offers anywhere for anything such as free appitizers at a resturant or store value card

Data mining has been going on for before most of FP was born, if you are honestly just now concerned about it then you are about 60 years late[/QUOTE]
"<bad thing> isn't bad, it's always been that way!"
Apart from that, I can control what information I give those applications. I can't control what information I give my operating system.