Israel presses ahead on settlements - Polidicks

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19473642]Israelis kill civilians (from what I often hear) through poorly spotted/coordinated airstrikes and artillery fire. Hamas and Hezbollah get civilians killed by using them as a cover during firefights. The claim that the Israelis are massacring Palestinians in the West Bank has been hugely distorted by dumb sources and the Media just often feeds off on that. EDIT: And if the fucking Middle-Eastern states are so pissed off about the fact that Israel is pushing out Palestinians off of land and homes why can't they just offer them home and shelter in their own states instead of starting wars or just bad-mouthing the general population of Israelis.[/QUOTE] This [url]http://wontsomebodypleasethinkofthechildren.ytmnd.com/[/url] Also this [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield#Israel[/url]

[QUOTE=professional;19473428]This is just as bad as the stupid baby analogy. I never said it's the solution. What I was trying to point out is how that stupid analogy suggests that Hamas are innocent. So by that line of thinking, the action of actively [B]trying[/B] to kill civilians is somehow less worse because they didn't succeed? -.-[/QUOTE] whooosh way to miss the point [editline]12:54AM[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19473642]Israelis kill civilians (from what I often hear) through poorly spotted/coordinated airstrikes and artillery fire. Hamas and Hezbollah get civilians killed by using them as a cover during firefights. The claim that the Israelis are massacring Palestinians in the West Bank has been hugely distorted by dumb sources and the Media just often feeds off on that. EDIT: And if the fucking Middle-Eastern states are so pissed off about the fact that Israel is pushing out Palestinians off of land and homes why can't they just offer them home and shelter in their own states instead of starting wars or just bad-mouthing the general population of Israelis.[/QUOTE] oh hello Facepunch user CabooseRvB, you and your not unique name are extremely ignorant.

[QUOTE=professional;19473628] I know how an analogy works. You on the other hand, clearly don't. You used an analogy of the deaths of 4 civilians as a baby kicking someone in the shin, compared to a Military retaliation to someone retaliating by kicking the baby in the face. It's a shit analogy. Stop. [/QUOTE] I didn't even make that analogy. herp derp :downs: Edit [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19473642] And if the fucking Middle-Eastern states are so pissed off about the fact that Israel is pushing out Palestinians off of land and homes why can't they just offer them home and shelter in their own states instead of starting wars or just bad-mouthing the general population of Israelis.[/QUOTE] From what I know, all of Palestine is blockaded from every side by Israel and Egypt. Airports were shut down and fishermen can't even go 3 miles into the water without getting their ass handed to them.

-snip- This whole thread is filled with hatred for both sides, not going to post here and provoke anyone.

the way that israel continues to do things like this and generally dehumanize middle-eastern/palestinian people is incredibly ironic [QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;19444312]This is good. The Israelis need to continue to hold their ground.[/QUOTE] post/avatar combo [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19473642]Israelis kill civilians (from what I often hear) through poorly spotted/coordinated airstrikes and artillery fire. Hamas and Hezbollah get civilians killed by using them as a cover during firefights. The claim that the Israelis are massacring Palestinians in the West Bank has been hugely distorted by dumb sources and the Media just often feeds off on that. EDIT: And if the fucking Middle-Eastern states are so pissed off about the fact that Israel is pushing out Palestinians off of land and homes why can't they just offer them home and shelter in their own states instead of starting wars or just bad-mouthing the general population of Israelis.[/QUOTE] hahahaha you can't be serious. "hmmm if israel is stealing palestinian land then why don't other countries just give palestinians their own land????? as opposed to say, calling out israel. my logic is perfect." [QUOTE=professional;19473628][i]a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.[/i] [i] Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.[/i] I know how an analogy works. You on the other hand, clearly don't. You used an analogy of the deaths of 4 civilians as a baby kicking someone in the shin, compared to a Military retaliation to someone retaliating by kicking the baby in the face. It's a shit analogy. Stop. Just like the Al Qaeda are Hero crusaders right? It couldn't possibly be that their mission is to eradicate western culture because they hate it, no. Just like Hamas doesn't want to kill Israelis because of hatred.[/QUOTE] cool then i guess it's okay for israel to wantonly murder civilians, bomb hospitals and schools, etc. because some angry sand people might die along with the big crowds of scared sand people. :smile:

I guess this issue will continue on to the point of Nuclear Exchange in the Middle East if Israel doesn't budge to demands. Like I said, I'd just get the Palestinians out of there, it's shitty enough the Israelis and Terror Factions are in the same place. EDIT: ohai Trotsky. wanna be friends? i liek ur naem its bettur than mine.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19474318]I guess this issue will continue on to the point of Nuclear Exchange in the Middle East if Israel doesn't budge to demands. Like I said, I'd just get the Palestinians out of there, it's shitty enough the Israelis and Terror Factions are in the same place. EDIT: ohai Trotsky. wanna be friends? i liek ur naem its bettur than mine.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, Call of duty is not a real life situation. Those pesky little brown people are not all savages who love nuking the DEMOCRATIC west.

I said [i] in [/i] the Middle East. I guess it was an overstatement but an escalated war would become appropriate. And I never said they were Savages; I'm so sorry, I'll pull out of this. I can't take the bad heat of Internet-Debate. Bai-luv-u Trotsky

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3865912/Gz-map2.png[/img] Here I made a nice lil picture for you. Red=blockade

[QUOTE=Trotsky;19474382]I'm sorry, Call of duty is not a real life situation. Those pesky little brown people are not all savages who love nuking the DEMOCRATIC west.[/QUOTE] actually it's possible that israel may use nuclear weapons against iran and maybe some other "pesky brown people" nations. I assume that caboose was talking about the opposite, though (as implausible as that is).

[QUOTE=Urkel01;19474461]actually it's possible that israel may use nuclear weapons against iran and maybe some other "pesky brown people" nations. I assume that caboose was talking about the opposite, though (as implausible as that is).[/QUOTE] Hamas can't even get proper rockets. I don't think that they're gonna have nukes any time soon...

Israeli 'claims' or 'possesses' capability of getting/having a Nuke, Iran just flexes bone-muscle. Like I said, overstatement, but I guess people like to jump on it.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;19472555]Where did I say it was OK? I'm saying that comparing the numbers is stupid because the accuracies of either side are worlds apart, especially considering the rockets were home-made and just fired blindly into Israel in the hopes that they'd hit something. (which history shows that massed rocket batteries CAN inflict some major damage, but Hamas apparantley opted more for a few rockets here and there) It was a dick move by BOTH parties to fire into civilian areas, blindly or otherwise. (and I don't know if I'd call the Hamas rocket attacks "blindly fired", seeing as they pointed them in the right direction at least) Also, on the one hand you act like it was "only 4" as if Hamas only killed 4 on purpose, and that the casualty difference is because of cruelty. It certainly is on BOTH counts, but the main difference is what they were lobbing at each-other. This is what Hamas was firing: [IMG]http://imgur.com/WRGuD.jpg[/IMG] This is what Israel was firing: [img]http://imgur.com/9jrFx.jpg[/img] Hamas had the disadvantage of having to make their rockets from scratch while Israel had masses of artillery shells at the ready, and the trained crews necessary to use them properly. BUT, the REAL point of the issue is Hamas dragged their civilian population into another un-necessarily bloody skirmish by even trying something this stupid. This does NOT excuse Israel however, I'm just saying that the casualty differences shouldn't be THAT surprising.[/QUOTE] [B] Hamas: [/B] 2,700 [I]locally-made[/I] Qassam rockets [B] Israel:[/B] [U]14,600[/U] 155mm artillery shells :downs:

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19474509]Israeli 'claims' or 'possesses' capability of getting a Nuke, Iran just flexes bone-muscle. Like I said, overstatement, but I guess people like to jump on it.[/QUOTE] you don't think Israeli's have nukes? you are one naive bastard.

I never said Israel doesn't have Nukes. You gotta start interpreting the posts into a different tone. Those rockets look just like fireworks compared to IDF-Firepower.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19474606]I never said Israel doesn't have Nukes. You gotta start interpreting the posts into a different tone. Those rockets look just like fireworks compared to IDF-Firepower.[/QUOTE] that's because they are. it's the only way they can fight back.

[QUOTE=Rundas;19448753]Some jews are pretty cool, man. Don't say stuff like that. :frown:[/QUOTE] Like Steven Spielberg. [editline]04:09AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Epidemick;19448766]Jews are alright The faggots that decide to go live in Israel aren't, though[/QUOTE] Now, you are saying everyone is Israel is a evil bastard. Not everyone.

[QUOTE=Taishu;19472924]I concur. They rarely hit anything at all. I don't think anything they fire have a guidance system or something like that. Unlike the Israelis. Yet they continue to hit buildings like, UN-run schools. With white phosphor no less.[/QUOTE] Let me get this straight, when a rocket is lunched, and it used to happen about 3 times a day, you hear an alert and you have to run into your safe room. You have about 30 seconds before the rocket hits something. Now imagine how it's like living like this fucking every day

[QUOTE=Ker‎o;19480741]Let me get this straight, when a rocket is lunched, and it used to happen about 3 times a day, you hear an alert and you have to run into your safe room. You have about 30 seconds before the rocket hits something. Now imagine how it's like living like this fucking every day[/QUOTE] imagine this you're a Palestinian. You have no electricity and you can't leave your city. you're poor, hungry and have a family you get hit by white phosphorous. I'd rather have safety in a city I CAN LEAVE, then be oppressed by monsters like the IDF. who's in the fucking wrong in the first place. You want them to stop firing missiles at you? Ask your fucking government to stop oppressing the Palestinians. Jesus, you people pride yourself as being the "only democracy in the middle east"

[QUOTE=Trotsky;19480795]imagine this you're a Palestinian. You have no electricity and you can't leave your city. you're poor, hungry and have a family you get hit by white phosphorous. I'd rather have safety in a city I CAN LEAVE, then be oppressed by monsters like the IDF. who's in the fucking wrong in the first place. You want them to stop firing missiles at you? Ask your fucking government to stop oppressing the Palestinians. Jesus, you people pride yourself as being the "only democracy in the middle east"[/QUOTE] And you know that those poor families do? They sale their children to terrorist organizations and by that help the terrorism go on.

[QUOTE=Ker‎o;19480858]And you know that those poor families do? They sale their children to terrorist organizations and by that help the terrorism go on.[/QUOTE] That's complete bullshit. What terrorist organizations?

Kero is right, they're evil, your wrong trotsky, deal with it i would let israel cut off my food, medicine, and other supplies without any resistance. it's obviously for my own good! israel military are good people, they're only trying to save their own country from terrorists! I mean, Kero is right when Palestinians sell their children to Hamas! No wonder they shoot kids. like this one [img]http://www.israelnewsagency.com/aldurapalestinepropagandafilmfrenchcout.jpg[/img] terrorist kid had it coming.

oh dear :C that father was on his way to sell his kid to Terrorists.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;19480904]oh dear :C that father was on his way to sell his kid to Terrorists.[/QUOTE] from his photo, you can see that he was waving to the Hamas and lock the deal with them naughty Palestinians!

Go ahead and rate me dumb before reading, but personally I don't give a shit about Arabs, have they ever done ANYTHING productive? The only "good" thing you can get from them is oil. Compared to Jews or even Israelis, Arabs are shit. Also, you should know what my opinion is biased because I lived there for 9 years and I can understand what piece of shit lives in the West Bank and Gaza strip. Again, the Arabs started the war, they got fucking annihilated, now they should shit in their pants and sit in silence. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Racism" - TH89))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Crembo;19482054]Go ahead and rate me dumb before reading, but personally I don't give a shit about Arabs, have they ever done ANYTHING productive? The only "good" thing you can get from them is oil. Compared to Jews or even Israelis, Arabs are shit. Also, you should know what my opinion is biased because I lived there for 9 years and I can understand what piece of shit lives in the West Bank and Gaza strip. Again, the Arabs started the war, they got fucking annihilated, now they should shit in their pants and sit in silence.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.electricscotland.com/thomson/images/20.19%20AdolfHitler.jpg[/img] cept with Arabs

[QUOTE=Epidemick;19482453][img]http://www.electricscotland.com/thomson/images/20.19%20AdolfHitler.jpg[/img] cept with Arabs[/QUOTE] Wtf? You must be very stupid if you compare these two things.

[QUOTE=Crembo;19482054]Go ahead and rate me dumb before reading, but personally I don't give a shit about Arabs, have they ever done ANYTHING productive? The only "good" thing you can get from them is oil. Compared to Jews or even Israelis, Arabs are shit. Also, you should know what my opinion is biased because I lived there for 9 years and I can understand what piece of shit lives in the West Bank and Gaza strip. Again, the Arabs started the war, they got fucking annihilated, now they should shit in their pants and sit in silence.[/QUOTE] ... You best be joking.

Hehehe it's funny how easy it is for people to rate dumb other then saying something...

[QUOTE=Ker‎o;19482650]Wtf? You must be very stupid if you compare these two things.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but its very true and I'm sure there are lots of people that would agree with me. [IMG]http://filebox.me/files/a1ckaay7b_nazisrael.jpg[/IMG] [editline]11:57AM[/editline] Kero, are you up for a game of TF2?