"Biblical" Genocide? Over 100K Public School Students To Get Lessons On Killing Unbelievers - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;36788128]I don't get it, they're learning about the Bible in an optional, after-school program? What's the problem? Did I miss something in the article?[/QUOTE] the clubs are indirectly using state school funding to teach kids something nonsecular. it's unconstitutional.

The fuck is wrong with people those days.

[QUOTE=Secrios;36787876]Well the evidence against it is stacking up each day.[/QUOTE] That's a terrible way of thinking. That's on the level of saying: "Everyday I read the news that one black person killed another black person, the evidence that they're mostly murderers is stacking up each day"

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36788182]a bunch of evangelicals set up an after school club at a - public school - to teach children the wonders of divinely inspired genocide. what could go wrong![/QUOTE] We teach kids about other genocides, why is religious genocide any different?

And so continues the anti-theism circlejerk on Facepunch.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;36787111]Im going to say the same thing I say in a different thread; Why do people defend religion by blaming everything that's wrong with it on humanity, but in the same breath give religion credit by claiming religion is a good thing because it contributed a lot to charity? Ive still gotten no answer in the last thread, so I'll ask it again.[/QUOTE] An excellent point. My answer would be that, overall, both the good and bad can be attributed to Human Nature. I think that Religion is a Human construct and is therefore an expression of Human Nature. Part of what happens when people blame Religion for the world's atrocities is that Religion is put on some sort of pedestal, like it's some sort of supernatural force that somehow coerces people to commit acts of malice. As for the people teaching this, it's tremendously dangerous but once again is an example of a small group that doesn't represent the whole. [QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;36788427]We teach kids about other genocides, why is religious genocide any different?[/QUOTE] Uh "If only Saul had been willing to seek God for strength to obey!" It's like having your teacher go "Sure sucks that Hitler got toppled before he killed [I]all [/I]of the subhuman inferiors!"

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;36788427]We teach kids about other genocides, why is religious genocide any different?[/QUOTE] except instead of learning about it in a neutral context (or, god forbid, in a negative one - because genocide is, y'know, bad), they get this [quote]"You are to go and completely destroy the Amalekites (AM-uh-leck-ites) – people, animals, every living thing. Nothing shall be left."[B] "That was pretty clear, wasn't it?" the manual tells the teachers to say to the kids.[/B][/quote] it's unjustifiable

[QUOTE=Zycoses;36785626]3000 years ago we didn't have nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] Yeah we did. All someone has to do is throw a chunk of uranium ore at someone and it's considered a nuclear weapon.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;36788427]We teach kids about other genocides, why is religious genocide any different?[/QUOTE] because our primary objective in teaching about other genocides is to condemn them, not to explain why they were necessary and why they need to be carried out in the future [editline]16th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=kaine123;36788525]And so continues the anti-theism circlejerk on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] and so continues the piss-poor "neutral" posters desperately attempting to make it look like theists are victims

[quote]The Christian Right's Stealth Assault on America's Children [/quote] The fact that someone somewhere out there thinks this is a thing has to be the most hilarious thing I've heard in weeks.

[QUOTE=markfu;36788387]That's a terrible way of thinking. That's on the level of saying: "Everyday I read the news that one black person killed another black person, the evidence that they're mostly murderers is stacking up each day"[/QUOTE]I don't know why you got dumb ratings, because I think you hit the nail on the head. "X group is clearly bad because y reasons are stacking up every day!" It's not hard to see that it's a broad generalization and entirely untrue.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;36791647]I don't know why you got dumb ratings, because I think you hit the nail on the head. "X group is clearly bad because y reasons are stacking up every day!" It's not hard to see that it's a broad generalization and entirely untrue.[/QUOTE] probably because being black isn't a choice let alone an outdated and abusive ideology to be subscribed to by choice

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36791668]probably because being black isn't a choice let alone an outdated and abusive ideology to be subscribed to by choice[/QUOTE]Okay, no shit, but how many religious people do you personally know that actually believe the horseshit listed in the article? I know of none. These people are not mainstream, they're called [i]radical[/i] for a reason. Even with that, a lot of them grew up with this and they have had no choice. Who the fuck chooses to have insane people for parents?

[QUOTE=Marbalo;36787111]Im going to say the same thing I say in a different thread; Why do people defend religion by blaming everything that's wrong with it on humanity, but in the same breath give religion credit by claiming religion is a good thing because it contributed a lot to charity? Ive still gotten no answer in the last thread, so I'll ask it again.[/QUOTE] Except I didn't do that, though.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;36791811]Okay, no shit, but how many religious people do you personally know that actually believe the horseshit listed in the article? I know of none. These people are not mainstream, they're called [i]radical[/i] for a reason. Even with that, a lot of them grew up with this and they have had no choice. Who the fuck chooses to have insane people for parents?[/QUOTE] i dont hate religious people or hold their beliefs against them because like you said not everyone takes every word of it literally, what i do hate is the religion itself so when that ideology is being spread and endorsed it's much different from somebody thinking "hey jesus was right about turning the other cheek, neat :)"

[QUOTE=David29;36785573]Not really. To be honest, I don't really blame religion for all the shit that happens in the world. I blame humanity. In many cases, religion is generally quite innocent until it is taken by a certain group of people and used as justification for their actions. If we labeled religon as evil by default, then that would include calling Bhuddism evil.[/QUOTE] This man speaks the truth.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;36787111]Why do people defend religion by blaming everything that's wrong with it on humanity, but in the same breath give religion credit by claiming religion is a good thing because it contributed a lot to charity?[/QUOTE]No matter the religion, it's effect on the world is through human action. The cause for negative actions fall upon the humans doing them, it's their responsibility. With charity, the same thing happens and they're still responsible for the consequences. Religion itself isn't inherently bad, just like a particular opinion, thought, theory, or idea isn't, but the actions that stem from them can be. I find nothing evil with Islam for the same reasons I find nothing evil in fascism, or the pythagorean theory. What comes from these things is, ultimately, what must face judgement.[QUOTE=Kopimi;36791866]i dont hate religious people or hold their beliefs against them because like you said not everyone takes every word of it literally, what i do hate is the religion itself so when that ideology is being spread and endorsed it's much different from somebody thinking "hey jesus was right about turning the other cheek, neat :)"[/QUOTE]Alright, thanks for the clarification.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;36787761]Sorry I misread CheeserCrice's post. Yes but anyone who watches Fox is a fat redneck hick piece of shit who deserves to be lobotomized.[/QUOTE] That is very insulting and rude which is considered immoral in our society.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36786380]the major hardon they get over suffering also they have a lot more hell[B]s[/B] than the abrahamic religions[/QUOTE] yeah and you go those hells for being genuine assholes, like doing things such as; rape, killing, wrongful imprisonment, and slavery. it isn't like "you don't believe in our giant floaty man, you go here, disrespect a man with a beard and go here"

better hide in a bunker till this whole religious genocide thing blows over

[QUOTE=Kopimi;36789637]because our primary objective in teaching about other genocides is to condemn them, not to explain why they were necessary and why they need to be carried out in the future [editline]16th July 2012[/editline] and so continues the piss-poor "neutral" posters desperately attempting to make it look like theists are victims[/QUOTE] Well, by the definition of God as "the perfect being", you can't really disagree - if the perfect being, who is by /definition/ always right, tells you to do something (and for argument's sake let's assume God isn't lying or something like that), doing it is the right thing, even if it may seem abhorrent. That said, I think a majority of Christians would believe that God wouldn't order genocide because genocide is wrong, so it's all academic really.

[QUOTE=BoysLightUp;36792454]Well, by the definition of God as "the perfect being", you can't really disagree - if the perfect being, who is by /definition/ always right, tells you to do something (and for argument's sake let's assume God isn't lying or something like that), doing it is the right thing, even if it may seem abhorrent. That said, I think a majority of Christians would believe that God wouldn't order genocide because genocide is wrong, so it's all academic really.[/QUOTE] i'm going to define you as a shit poster, so by definition you are a shit poster

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36793425]i'm going to define you as a shit poster, so by definition you are a shit poster[/QUOTE] Are you disputing that the common definition of the idea of God includes perfection? e: fuck it you're not gonna get the point

[QUOTE=redBadger;36785363](Post about trashing the entire religion based on a small amount of people's actions.)[/QUOTE] When the entire religion is based on the bible which clearly tells you to kill many different people, gays for example, it's that minority which are 'correct'.

[QUOTE=BoysLightUp;36795178]Are you disputing that the common definition of the idea of God includes perfection? e: fuck it you're not gonna get the point[/QUOTE] I'm not getting your point either. You were saying that a majority of Christians wouldn't believe that God would order genocide. But it's indisputable that in the bible he does exactly that. I'm guessing your point is that just because someone believes god is perfect, then him ordering a genocide is completely justified by that definition, regardless of the suffering, and that this is a view we should all tolerate or respect?

[QUOTE=TonyP;36795343]When the entire religion is based on the bible which clearly tells you to kill many different people, gays for example, it's that minority which are 'correct'.[/QUOTE] Does nobody read the Bible past the first quarter or something?

[QUOTE=Ardosos;36798176]Does nobody read the Bible past the first quarter or something?[/QUOTE] Most people don't read it at all and just go on the word of someone else, who also probably didn't read it.

[QUOTE=BoysLightUp;36792454]That said, I think a majority of Christians would believe that God wouldn't order genocide because genocide is wrong, so it's all academic really.[/QUOTE] That is once you ignore that A, he actually [I]does[/I] order genocide, and B, the majority of orders to mortals were to kill things (I mean, the Abrahamic religions are even [I]named[/I] after that)

[QUOTE=BoysLightUp;36795178]Are you disputing that the common definition of the idea of God includes perfection? e: fuck it you're not gonna get the point[/QUOTE] i'm disputing you using "by definition" as a serious argument in a nonmathematical subject

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