A New Egyptian Pyramid, the Latest of Seven and all Older Than the Giza Pyramids, has been uncovered - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BCell;43779036]No. Majority of the pyramids were build by paid craftsmen and volunteers. I am pretty sure if you have nothing to do , you would want to build a pyramids. You need to remember back then, people have no entertainment and proper jobs so building a pyramids seems to look like a good job for them.[/QUOTE] that is true... there is only 3 things that people do, work, religion, and drink.

[QUOTE=darkedone02;43779074]that is true... there is only 3 things that people do, work, religion, and drink.[/QUOTE] Humorously, it's believed they were paid in beer for the labor. Or that's what I last heard on the subject.

[QUOTE=woolio1;43778827]Except deserts are often anything but flat. Mountains of sand abound. [editline]4th February 2014[/editline] You can't build a tower on sand. Towers sink. Pyramids were designed to have as large a surface area as possible on the bottom so they could "float" on top of the sand. To an extent, of course.[/QUOTE] well you are partially correct, actually the pyramids are built on flattened stone beds, the egyptians learned anyways by the time of the great pyramids to build their stuff on large flat beds of solid rock which they cleared for the purpose, still there are pyramids that have been found with improper foundations so it was obviously a learning process

[QUOTE=Alice3173;43778809]How big is that one exactly? In this pic it looks absolutely massive without any real point of reference.[/QUOTE] That's an already discovered pyramid. The one discovered has been looted so much it's only 16 feet high.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;43778809]How big is that one exactly? In this pic it looks absolutely massive without any real point of reference.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this one's kinda bugging me. It looks fucking gargantuan without any reference point other than an eternal, flat expanse in all directions. It could be three fucking feet tall for all I know, but my mind is saying 'gigantic'.

[QUOTE=be;43777219]Then why not just make a massive tower? Surely that would be MUCH easier?[/QUOTE] With the techniques and materials at hand a tower as large as a pyramid would be impossible to build, let alone continue standing. There's a reason the pyramids are built with with steps. [editline]3rd February 2014[/editline] Pyramids are also much more stable then towers

[QUOTE=sltungle;43780449]Yeah, this one's kinda bugging me. It looks fucking gargantuan without any reference point other than an eternal, flat expanse in all directions. It could be three fucking feet tall for all I know, but my mind is saying 'gigantic'.[/QUOTE] You should try reading the article sometimes [quote]The step pyramid, which once stood as high as [B]43 feet (13 meters)[/B], is one of seven so-called "provincial" pyramids built by either the pharaoh Huni (reign ca. 2635-2610 B.C.) or Snefru (reign ca. 2610-2590 B.C.). Over time, the step pyramid's stone blocks were pillaged, and the monument was exposed to weathering, so today, it's only about [B]16 feet (5 m)[/B] tall.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Matrix374;43780575]You should try reading the article sometimes[/QUOTE] Is that the one that I quoted though? The Discovery article only has this to say for that image: [QUOTE]While the site in the Fayum has not been investigated yet, a preliminary on-the-ground expedition has already occurred at the site near Abu Sidhum. According to Micol, it provided intriguing data to compare with El-Kady and Farouk’s maps and documents.[/QUOTE] The Smithsonian article doesn't have the same image.

aw snefru or huni's pyramid is having trouble getting it up....

[QUOTE=Matrix374;43780575]You should try reading the article sometimes[/QUOTE] I presumed the top image, y'know, the one with people standing at its base, the one that looks to actually be about 5 metres tall, was the one that that section of the article was referencing. Y'know, considering the first image in the article AND the paragraph below both refer to, "[I]the step pyramid[/I]".

[img]http://i.imgur.com/zaz3Qjr.jpg[/img] If you look at the point of references I think you get the idea of how big it is

is it really older then cheops' piramid? thats metal

[QUOTE=Grimhound;43779081]Humorously, it's believed they were paid in beer for the labor. Or that's what I last heard on the subject.[/QUOTE] Back in them days, you didn't really have money in the strict sense. Sure there was gold and silver and shit but you mainly bartered for goods with other goods. The workers were paid a salary in kind, along with food, beer/wine, clothes, furniture, and the like.

[QUOTE=sltungle;43780659]I presumed the top image, y'know, the one with people standing at its base, the one that looks to actually be about 5 metres tall, was the one that that section of the article was referencing. Y'know, considering the first image in the article AND the paragraph below both refer to, "[I]the step pyramid[/I]".[/QUOTE] To be honest, I snagged the images off of the Discovery article, which included photos from the Pyramid finds (see the blue Radar one and reliefs) and a mix of other photos from another recent excavation that turned up some goodies. As for the 'mountain pyramid' people have asked about, I don't know that the feature is an actual Pyramid. While it certainly fits into the category, what with four faces and a pointed top, The actual discovered pyramids are at the base, presumably on the other side from the camera. The pyramids themselves measure no higher than about 20m, mostly around the 15m range. They would have been taller but apparently their outside materials have been scavenged and looted from the site over the centuries. [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43780793]Back in them days, you didn't really have money in the strict sense. Sure there was gold and silver and shit but you mainly bartered for goods with other goods. The workers were paid a salary in kind, along with food, beer/wine, clothes, furniture, and the like.[/QUOTE] Egyptian workers were paid in an ancient form of beer, which contained a lot less alcohol (1-3%) but was richer and thicker than most beers today. Most egyptian settlements and organizations thrived on the ancient beer. It was so 'robust' that often times it was substituted in place of Breads when times were extremely tough. Not only that, but by fermenting the beer it meant the water was 100% safe to drink. Workers could then take their earned allotment of beer and use it to feed the family, or they could bring what they earned down to the market and trade for the other goods they needed. As the Roman empire conquered and began to change Egypt's economy and style, coinage currencies were introduced and flourished as international markets began to discover Egypt. [QUOTE=Kyle902;43780507]With the techniques and materials at hand a tower as large as a pyramid would be impossible to build, let alone continue standing. There's a reason the pyramids are built with with steps. [editline]3rd February 2014[/editline] Pyramids are also much more stable then towers[/QUOTE] Yes and no. Most pyramids, it is believed, were built step-style to provide an easy building platform. With the use of scaffolding the flat layered surface could be easily manipulated to bring the heavy stone up to the top. After the Pyramids were 'completed', that is to say the internal step-structure, a final outter layer was added. In the case of the Giza pyramids they were encased in white limestone which was smoothed to an angle. On the very top a large golden 'miniature' pyramid adorned the very top. If you visit egypt you can still see some of the Limestone casing stones around the base. However the golden tip to the Pyramid of Khufu (the largest) has long since been gone. Stolen/deconstructed/looted sometime after the Roman occupation and downfall of the Egyptian Empire. And as for the comment regarding towers; Egypt built many-many obelisks across their territory. Obelisks were often used to signify the area of a great battle, heritage, or site marker. Much like road signs they would adorn crossroads, some (especially in the later Eras) were enscribed with multiple languages to give travelers and traders directions to where they needed to be. The largest obelisk produced by the Egyptian Empire, called the [u]Great Stele[/u], stood at 33m high and 3 by 2 metres at the base (520 tons). It now lays on its side, was constructed from only ONE piece, and it is believed it fell shortly after construction; the accident destroyed much of the chamber beneath it. Stability on the sand isn't necessarily the biggest obstacle to constructing towers in the desert. The people often times dug down beneath the sand and built from the sandstone/rock base beneath it. Which is also why many Egyptian cities and sites remain buried to this day. Overcome by the sands. No one TRULY knows why the Pyramids were built. Many, and as the standing theory, claim that they were built as markers to signify a great empire long-passed. Burial chambers to commemorate the great ones who have left us. But others have made claim to other purposes. For the fact that, despite finding what we believe are carcophagus tombs, there are no ORIGINAL reliefs in the Giza pyramids (or most others for that matter) that indicate they were used originally for burial chambers. One theory suggest they were Astronomical buildings used by the Priests and Nobles to help guide the people. Later being finished and encapsulated when changing dynasties had conflicting interests. Many claim that when you are inside the Great Pyramids, that you feel a sense of calming. Your hair stands up on your neck and arms, but you feel an energetic peace. Especially during the time of Dusk and Dawn. There have been theories that there were some simple form of magnetics being used by the Egyptian high priests. Boasted as "Magic and powers of the Gods" simple things like 'levetating metals' and 'glowing lotus plants' would seem other-wordly and god-like to the simple man of times passed, whereas today we would realize them as lightbulbs and magnetic repulsion/attraction. The Pyramids are unwordly amazing. I urge ANYONE who has mild interest to delve into the Anals of the internet on them. There's so much information you can hardly see straight. Even the Dean of Egyptian Archaeology has claimed that many of their current theories are flawed and he has not denied any of the crazier theories such as Aliens and secret technologies. Only saying that he would not eagerly jump to accept them, as it would turn the reputation of the school over-night. But there are so many unanswered mysteries to them; how the built them, how they got them so precise, why they built them, where they got the materials, who built them, and so forth- And with each question there are 10 equally possible answers. Fuck I love Ancient History.

[QUOTE=Xystus234;43776936]How did they miss this all these years...[/QUOTE] Well sand probably just covered the fucking thing ?

[QUOTE=redBadger;43776708]The pyramids are some scary shit. It's hard to imagine people building these things by hand.[/QUOTE] That's because it was the Predators.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;43792474]That's because it was the Predators.[/QUOTE] but those were Aztec-style pyramids.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43776812]I expected badage boys holy shit[/QUOTE] does badage boys count as meme shit yet

I heard somewhere that the huge rocks that form the pyramids we already know about were cut so perfectly that it is still unknown how they really did it without using advanced technology.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43776812]I expected badage boys holy shit[/QUOTE] When even was the last Badage boys thread?

Huh, Wikipedia has absolutely no mention of this yet.

[QUOTE=Irockz;43798199]Huh, Wikipedia has absolutely no mention of this yet.[/QUOTE] Takes a while for it to update on certain things, though they did mention they found two tombs of pharaohs, one reasonably intact with stuff in it.

[QUOTE=be;43777219]Then why not just make a massive tower? Surely that would be MUCH easier?[/QUOTE] In a desert, with some pretty relatively basic engineering? I imagine that the winds in a desert must build up pretty well since they're relatively flat so a tower probably wouldn't be the best idea. Signal fires on the other hand would work pretty well.