France's 75% tax rate approved by top court after revisions
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[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;43381055]i hate people who think taxes should be abolished, how else do you expect a government to provide services, and I hate people who think the government shouldn't provide services because we pay taxes for them![/QUOTE]
Abolishment would be a mistake.
75% is a slightly different argument.
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381069]Technically a year.
And suffering is something our ancestors had a much greater threshold for, I had to adapt to it right across life, I'm fucking bulletproof now.
You can't deny that Western society has become pussified?[/QUOTE]
you need to stop listening to five finger death punch man
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381103]Notch and Garry are both from-
In Garry's words, "working-class" background
and
In Notch's words, "very humble" background
I've got no reason to disbelieve them, have you?
What were the support systems they had?[/QUOTE]
Public schooling. Public water. Public waste management. Public electricity provision. Public security services. Public fire services. etc. I can list more if you really aren't sure.
Even if they did not directly use these services (security, fire, mostly), it's the existence of them that provides them with what we have today. And gave them the ability to have time to work on games and shit.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381052]To gain knowledge he would have attended public schooling (considering his background). To live he would be used public healthcare services, water and waste services. To communicate, nationalised communication networks (to connect to the Internet).
His success? Literally dumb luck that people noticed Minecraft. There's nothing else to it, he wasn't even trying to make a successful game, he just got lucky (and will admit that himself).[/QUOTE]
OK, how many times has he paid back his public schooling and any healthcare (he may never have been near a hospital in his life for all we know)? Assuming his parents taxes weren't
paying for it? :)
As for water and waste, they don't have private companies do that in Sweden?
LOL Wait, you do realize Notch is Swedish and Garry is British, none of them are North Korean, right, you do know this?
Dumb luck? What else at the time could do what Minecraft did? Notch admits it because he is extremely modest and because Swedish culture strongly discourages people "blowing their own horn", showing off etc.
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381089]You made that point several pages ago :)[/QUOTE]
He is a remarkable, inspiring character, don't you think?
But, how many people are in his position?
What should we do with quadriplegics? Throw them away? Assume they're worthless?
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381146]
He is a remarkable, inspiring character, don't you think?
But, how many people are in his position?
What should we do with quadriplegics? Throw them away? Assume they're worthless?[/QUOTE]
wtf
how old are you
how do you read that post and miss the point entirely then go off this tangent
lmao
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381146]OK, how many times has he paid back his public schooling and any healthcare (he may never have been near a hospital in his life for all we know)? Assuming his parents taxes weren't
paying for it? :)
As for water and waste, they don't have private companies do that in Sweden?
LOL Wait, you do realize Notch is Swedish and Garry is British, none of them are North Korean, right, you do know this?
Dumb luck? What else at the time could do what Minecraft did? Notch admits it because he is extremely modest and because Swedish culture strongly discourages people "blowing their own horn", showing off etc.[/QUOTE]
North Korea isn't the only place in the world that uses public systems. Holy shit read a book or something.
We have companies contracted by the government, given government monopolies, over these systems. For all intents and purposes they are "public". Funded by taxes and not much else. Maybe the occasional investment. Look at BT, they own pretty much the entire DSL communication network in this country, government funds allow them to do so and stops people having to pay out of the ass for private companies who refuse to create a standard network.
What else at the time could do what Minecraft did? Well, in the early stages (where Minecraft took off), Infiniminer totally could. Seeing as that was one of the inspirations for Notch. As if rapidly grew from Notch having ideas obviously they diverged, but he was already earning money by then considering he started selling the game back in indev.
It's not just modesty, it was also luck.
And before you bring up Garry. GMod is the only thing that made FP what it is. Nobody remembers Faecwound. GMod took off because it was one of the only Source mods at the time that could do this. Competitive developers tried to get in but Garry had a fanbase so it was kinda wasted effort. He had the Source modding community as a backing here, a lot of Source mods gain popularity from advertising done on mod sites, or appearing in the "new releases" column. He had a massive following before Valve struck up a deal that let him sell the mod and gain more access to the engine. Whilst he's a "self made man", he also relied on a lot of people helping in a few ways.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381124]Public schooling. Public water. Public waste management. Public electricity provision. Public security services. Public fire services. etc. I can list more if you really aren't sure.
Even if they did not directly use these services (security, fire, mostly), it's the existence of them that provides them with what we have today. And gave them the ability to have time to work on games and shit.[/QUOTE]
Notch worked part-time on Minecraft in the beginning while continuing to work at his old employer. When he realized it was gonna become big he went full-time with Minecraft.
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381146]What should we do with quadriplegics? Throw them away? Assume they're worthless?[/QUOTE]
That's basically what you're advocating for any quadriplegics that can't also swim across the English Channel. You're saying "This quadriplegic swam across the English Channel all by himself, therefore all other quadriplegics deserve no help from anyone. It will make them stronger."
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43381189]wtf
how old are you
how do you read that post and miss the point entirely then go off this tangent
lmao[/QUOTE]
Your point was that not every quadriplegic can swim the channel, no shit? But there is a big difference between being a quadriplegic and being just an average Joe. Or did I miss the point again, and if so, what was it?
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381200]Notch worked part-time on Minecraft in the beginning while continuing to work at his old employer. When he realized it was gonna become big he went full-time with Minecraft.[/QUOTE]
And? This doesn't prove me wrong or anything. He was working part time, paying taxes for the services he used, working on Minecraft because it was part time work and his country has provisions to stop his ass being on the street.
So, like. What point does this have exactly?
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;43381205]That's basically what you're advocating for any quadriplegics that can't also swim across the English Channel. You're saying "This quadriplegic swam across the English Channel all by himself, therefore all other quadriplegics deserve no help from anyone. It will make them stronger."[/QUOTE]
No, people with that level of dissability shouldn't be hounded, allowances should be made for them. But the average Joe is not a quadriplegic. Why shouldn't there be an expectation that the average Joe at least TRIES to make a huge and sustained effort to do something special with their life?
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381237]And? This doesn't prove me wrong or anything. He was working part time, paying taxes for the services he used, working on Minecraft because it was part time work and his country has provisions to stop his ass being on the street.
So, like. What point does this have exactly?[/QUOTE]
How do we know he used ANY services? Do we know he ever needed the police or fire dept or went to hospital - as for schooling, his parents were probably paying taxes when he was growing up - and if not, he's more than paid that back now (4th biggest taxpayer in Sweden last year).
Hmmmm, you're saying Notch was getting state benefits while working on Minecraft? :/
Maybe it was just that he was making enough working PT from the other thing and was willing to sacrifice his quality of life for a bit while MC was in development?
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381259]No, people with that level of dissability shouldn't be hounded, allowances should be made for them. But the average Joe is not a quadriplegic. Why shouldn't there be an expectation that the average Joe at least TRIES to make a huge and sustained effort to do something special with their life?[/QUOTE]
did you take a class that specializes in missing the point?? this is why nobody believes you made it past high school, this is unbelievable lol
you're using the EXCEPTION rather than the NORM as an argument
you're saying that just because Garry or Notch got rich and they were from a humble background, everyone else can and should or they're lazy and deserve no help, it'll make them stronger
except for the fucking fact nobody is born under the same circumstance, they have their own problems ranging from crime and poverty that prevents people from succeeding that is clearly demonstrated in the past and currently in the present, and referring to Notch / Garry is a crutch you keep going back to
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381259]No, people with that level of dissability shouldn't be hounded, allowances should be made for them. But the average Joe is not a quadriplegic. Why shouldn't there be an expectation that the average Joe at least TRIES to make a huge and sustained effort to do something special with their life?[/QUOTE]
Because the opportunities an average Joe has are rapidly shrinking due to severe wealth inequality and stagnant job markets.
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381259]How do we know he used ANY services? Do we know he ever needed the police or fire dept or went to hospital - as for schooling, his parents were probably paying taxes when he was growing up - and if not, he's more than paid that back now (4th biggest taxpayer in Sweden last year).
Hmmmm, you're saying Notch was getting state benefits while working on Minecraft? :/
Maybe it was just that he was making enough working PT from the other thing and was willing to sacrifice his quality of life for a bit while MC was in development?[/QUOTE]
P. fucking sure he used water and waste services. Unless he has his own private reserve or something. And what about the various safety standards agencies that ensure food is safe and edible? That your car won't kill your ass if you look at it funny? That the computer you use won't set fire to your cat or whatever?
You don't have to claim benefits to prosper from state services. The police force ensure crime in your area is low so you don't get robbed or shit, the fire department put fires out so they can't spread and wreck your shit. Hospitals and other public healthcare try and mitigate the chances of epidemics occurring. All indirect influences with direct use.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381191]North Korea isn't the only place in the world that uses public systems. Holy shit read a book or something.[/QUOTE]
It's one of the few places that uses as many public systems as you listed.
[QUOTE]We have companies contracted by the government, given government monopolies, over these systems. For all intents and purposes they are "public". Funded by taxes and not much else. Maybe the occasional investment. Look at BT, they own pretty much the entire DSL communication network in this country, government funds allow them to do so and stops people having to pay out of the ass for private companies who refuse to create a standard network.
[/QUOTE]
I agree that Thatcher's government fucked up with BT, they should have broken it up before privitazing it.
[QUOTE]What else at the time could do what Minecraft did? Well, in the early stages (where Minecraft took off), Infiniminer totally could. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Seeing as that was one of the inspirations for Notch. As if rapidly grew from Notch having ideas obviously they diverged, but he was already earning money by then considering he started selling the game back in indev.[/QUOTE]
Early Minecraft > Infiniminer.
Also Infiniminer was ditched very quickly, and before work started on Minecraft, because Zach Brath was pissed at people reverse engineering it - therefore Notch had no real direct competition.
This was a great idea on the part of Mojang, pay 5 euros now or more later. My first interaction with Minecraft went something like this....
*loads*
"lol, WTF is this cheap-looking shit"
*starts playing*
"OMFG......you can move shit around, and mines, and crafting, OMFG, here TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :v:
*throwing wallet at screen*
[QUOTE]It's not just modesty, it was also luck.[/QUOTE]
What is luck? He made a lot of it for himself.
[QUOTE]And before you bring up Garry. GMod is the only thing that made FP what it is. Nobody remembers Faecwound. [/QUOTE]
I remember it. I'd buy it too if he released it properly on Steam etc, especially with sourcecode.
[QUOTE]GMod took off because it was one of the only Source mods at the time that could do this. [/QUOTE]
So? He killed JBMod and no-one tried to compete. Is that luck or is that because he worked round the clock on it for such a long time?
[QUOTE]Competitive developers tried to get in but Garry had a fanbase so it was kinda wasted effort. [/QUOTE]
Apart from JBMod, what else was there?
[QUOTE]He had the Source modding community as a backing here, a lot of Source mods gain popularity from advertising done on mod sites, or appearing in the "new releases" column. He had a massive following [/QUOTE]
Why did it have a massive following? Something to do with all the stuff you could do with it, that hadn't been seen before and pretty much still hasn't? Something to do with how supportive he was to modders, facilitating the huge quantity of 3rd party stuff that appeared?
[QUOTE]before Valve struck up a deal that let him sell the mod and gain more access to the engine. Whilst he's a "self made man", he also relied on a lot of people helping in a few ways.[/QUOTE]
He made it happen. Where was luck?
Valve offered a deal because they could see it's economic potential. They were thinking about their bottom line, not being altruists.
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43381307]did you take a class that specializes in missing the point?? this is why nobody believes you made it past high school, this is unbelievable lol
you're using the EXCEPTION rather than the NORM as an argument
you're saying that just because Garry or Notch got rich and they were from a humble background, everyone else can and should or they're lazy and deserve no help, it'll make them stronger
[/QUOTE]
There are AT LEAST 10 million millionaires in the world, sorry, but I don't know all their stories.
There have been some in my own family even, although not now, they're not so rare. N and G keep being mentioned because I am also an aspiring indie and I find their stories pretty inspiring.
[QUOTE]except for the fucking fact nobody is born under the same circumstance, they have their own problems ranging from crime and poverty that prevents people from succeeding that is clearly demonstrated in the past and currently in the present, and referring to Notch / Garry is a crutch you keep going back to[/QUOTE]
How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381309]P. fucking sure he used water and waste services. Unless he has his own private reserve or something.[/QUOTE]
*facepalm*
How do you know the water companies in Sweden that Notch uses/used are not privately owned?
[QUOTE]And what about the various safety standards agencies that ensure food is safe and edible? That your car won't kill your ass if you look at it funny? That the computer you use won't set fire to your cat or whatever?[/QUOTE]
Yeah some taxes are inevitable.
[QUOTE]You don't have to claim benefits to prosper from state services. The police force ensure crime in your area is low [/QUOTE]
Hmmmmmmmmmm......
[QUOTE]so you don't get robbed or shit, the fire department put fires out so they can't spread and wreck your shit. Hospitals and other public healthcare try and mitigate the chances of epidemics occurring. All indirect influences with direct use.[/QUOTE]
But how many millions do you think Notch has paid in taxes so far, and surely that is much more than his "fair share"?
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405]He made it happen. Where was luck?
Valve offered a deal because they could see it's economic potential. They were thinking about their bottom line, not being altruists.[/QUOTE]
It was luck for him that Valve actually considered letting some modder have access to the engine source in the capacity Garry did. Most companies won't do it to this degree (except for Epic and Crytek, but they make a living selling their engines more than their games). Yeah from their perspective it was more "we could make money here", but they had never shown inclination to do this in the past from what I can find, so he got damn lucky they were willing to go through with it.
As for Notch, he most certainly made the whole game and stuff. But the attention he received was down to luck that people came across him or were recommended to watch his streams of him coding and testing. His name was a fairly minor one in Wurm, so it's possible he had a small following there. But the fact that the genre shot to Saturn like it did was pure luck of the draw. Any genre could have done the exact same thing. Luckily, his did.
BT are total assholes.
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405]
There are AT LEAST 10 million millionaires in the world, sorry, but I don't know all their stories.
There have been some in my own family even, although not now, they're not so rare. N and G keep being mentioned because I am also an aspiring indie and I find their stories pretty inspiring.
How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/QUOTE]
is this post real
not only did you completely miss the point again ( pointing out the exceptions of 10 million people out of 7 billion ) and not responding to the argument that just because these specific succeed, not everyone can and will
but you dropped this gem
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405]How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405][B]How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405][B][I]How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405][B][I][U]How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
my sides, they hurt from laughter
this is most naive dumbest thing that even katbug or sgman1 wouldn't say
you did not graduate from high school
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405]*facepalm*
How do you know the water companies in Sweden that Notch uses/used are not privately owned?[/QUOTE]
To avoid the clusterfuck that would ensure, I'd expect that a lot of the pipework for such systems would be government owned, or at least government subsidised for installation and maintenance. It's pointless for each and every company to install their own pipes after all when one or two contracted ones can do the job just as well. So it may not be totally public, but it's publicly funded.
[editline]pftt[/editline]
Just quickly checked this out;
[url]http://www.siwi.org/documents/Resources/Water_Front_Articles/2002/WF4-02_Water_Supply_and_Sanitation_in_Sweden.pdf[/url]
The state fund the water supply system.
the amount of naivety on display here is staggering
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381069]You can't deny that Western society has become pussified?[/QUOTE]
can someone immortalize this brilliant quote
i literally cannot stop laughing
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381405]
How does crime and poverty prevent people from succeeding?[/QUOTE]
Are you actually serious? I seriously can't believe you just said this.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;43346241]Taxing high earners more is still unfair because it punishes people for being successful though.[/QUOTE]
So you of course don't like having a tax bracket system of any kind, right? Flat tax all the way?
[QUOTE=DeEz;43381514]the amount of naivety on display here is staggering
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
can someone immortalize this brilliant quote
i literally cannot stop laughing[/QUOTE]
I was just about to say that you should clarify that, because he might decide that you're on his side.
Since this is pretty much pants on head retarded right now, when do you think he's gonna say "jokes on u, iwaz troling the hole time"
Why did I not notice this was a 12 page long thread ignore me please I'll see my way out
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;43381543]Are you actually serious? I seriously can't believe you just said this.[/QUOTE]
i think it's pretty clear that he doesn't know much about how things work at all
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381464]It was luck for him that Valve actually considered letting some modder have access to the engine source in the capacity Garry did. Most companies won't do it to this degree (except for Epic and Crytek, but they make a living selling their engines more than their games). Yeah from their perspective it was more "we could make money here", but they had never shown inclination to do this in the past from what I can find, so he got damn lucky they were willing to go through with it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]As for Notch, he most certainly made the whole game and stuff. But the attention he received was down to luck that people came across him or were recommended to watch his streams of him coding and testing. His name was a fairly minor one in Wurm, so it's possible he had a small following there. But the fact that the genre shot to Saturn like it did was pure luck of the draw. Any genre could have done the exact same thing. Luckily, his did.
BT are total assholes.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure the attention Minecraft got wasn't in large part due to RPS, Yogscast and Youtube in general? Not to mention the master-stroke of it only being 5 euros at the start?
FWIW I think it's very dangerous to ascribe to much to the concept of "luck", it makes it sound like people are powerless. Make your own luck and respond properly to genuinly bad luck.....or get carried by the tide....I'm not trying to be a dick, I think this is helpful.
You're a dev right? Are you gonna stay in that part of IT beyond graduation, and if so, are you just gonna forevermore be someone else's underapreciated employee or try doing something on your own? If the former, then that's actually the most common approach, but how can you expect to get rich like that?
There's no guarantee that if you try to get rich you will, but my contention is that nowhere near enough people try. And for people that ultimately can't do it, they still learn a Hell of a lot on the way.
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;43381543]Are you actually serious? I seriously can't believe you just said this.[/QUOTE]
Poverty should be an INCENTIVE to do something. But no, in the West you can just fill in some paperwork and the taxman will help you out.
As for crime, WTF, are you being raped everyday or robbed everyday? Are you on hard drugs? If so, whose fault is that? *facepalm*
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43381471]is this post real
not only did you completely miss the point again ( pointing out the exceptions of 10 million people out of 7 billion ) and not responding to the argument that just because these specific succeed, not everyone can and will
but you dropped this gem
my sides, they hurt from laughter
this is most naive dumbest thing that even katbug or sgman1 wouldn't say
you did not graduate from high school[/QUOTE]
OK, quit in life, I don't care.
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381571]Are you sure the attention Minecraft got wasn't in large part due to RPS, Yogscast and Youtube in general? Not to mention the master-stroke of it only being 5 euros at the start?
FWIW I think it's very dangerous to ascribe to much to the concept of "luck", it makes it sound like people are powerless. Make your own luck and respond properly to genuinly bad luck.....or get carried by the tide....I'm not trying to be a dick, I think this is helpful.
You're a dev right? Are you gonna stay in that part of IT beyond graduation, and if so, are you just gonna forevermore be someone else's underapreciated employee or try doing something on your own? If the former, then that's actually the most common approach, but how can you expect to get rich like that?
There's no guarantee that if you try to get rich you will, but my contention is that nowhere near enough people try. And for people that ultimately can't do it, they still learn a Hell of a lot on the way.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I don't ascribe "luck" to everything. But the sheer success Notch had, and possibly garry had, were down to the luck that people noticed them. Notch wasn't out to get noticed, he never thought it'd quite reach the state it had a few years ago. He got so damn lucky that the genre took off more than anything.
Postgrad I'm hoping to find time to work on my own projects, and maybe if I can actually finish one and be happy with it try and make something of it. Though how successful I am there will likely be down to how lucky I get with people noticing it. A big media site isn't going to report on whatever it is I do unless it's either amazing, or I get lucky and they take a interest over competitors.
Doing "okay" can be easy to obtain with effort. Doing excellently? That takes more than effort, that involves so many external influences that it's hard to predict, kinda how luck and chance works really.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;43381543]Are you actually serious? I seriously can't believe you just said this.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever been the victim of crime? Did they saw off your limbs or something? How are you permanently harmed by it to the point you can't lift yourself up?
[QUOTE=kuydna;43381571]
There's no guarantee that if you try to get rich you will, but my contention is that nowhere near enough people try. And for people that ultimately can't do it, they still learn a Hell of a lot on the way.[/QUOTE]
How do you not understand that when you're near poverty, you don't have the capacity to try? You can't spare 2 hours/day to work on your pet project that [I]might[/I] make you millions one day. You're stuck in an endless cycle of having to work to pay your bills. If you, at ANY FUCKING POINT in your ENTIRE life were ANYWHERE close to being in poverty you would've known that. What you are is a little spoilt teenage shit that hasn't worked a day in his life, with illusions of grandeur and absolutely no basic idea how society functions.
When I say Notch got lucky, more he got lucky in that he developed the game just as interest in the genre spiked, his timing couldn't have been more perfect. When he was selling it for 5 euros the game was dull, but gained exponential popularity despite him saying it may never be finished.
Should have clarified :v:
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
Ow, right in the automerge
[QUOTE=hexpunK;43381609]Oh yeah, I don't ascribe "luck" to everything. But the sheer success Notch had, and possibly garry had, were down to the luck that people noticed them. Notch wasn't out to get noticed, he never thought it'd quite reach the state it had a few years ago. He got so damn lucky that the genre took off more than anything.[/QUOTE]
What about Spelunky? Antichamber? Terraria? FeZ? and soooooo many others?
[QUOTE]Postgrad I'm hoping to find time to work on my own projects, and maybe if I can actually finish one and be happy with it try and make something of it. Though how successful I am there will likely be down to how lucky I get with people noticing it. [/QUOTE]
Unless you make them notice :)
[QUOTE]A big media site isn't going to report on whatever it is I do unless it's either amazing, or I get lucky and they take a interest over competitors.[/QUOTE]
What if there is no direct competition?
[QUOTE]Doing "okay" can be easy to obtain with effort. Doing excellently? That takes more than effort, that involves so many external influences that it's hard to predict, kinda how luck and chance works really.[/QUOTE]
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stopper;43381623]How do you not understand that when you're near poverty, you don't have the capacity to try? You can't spare 2 hours/day to work on your pet project that [I]might[/I] make you millions one day. You're stuck in an endless cycle of having to work to pay your bills. If you, at ANY FUCKING POINT in your ENTIRE life were ANYWHERE close to being in poverty you would've known that. What you are is a little spoilt teenage shit that hasn't worked a day in his life, with illusions of grandeur and absolutely no basic idea how society functions.[/QUOTE]
168 hours - 35-40 hours for work - commute time - sleep - some other stuff.....
Weekends???
Define poverty anyway? And yes I think I know poverty, myself, probably much worse than you, but let's hear your definition. PS it didn't stop me from trying.
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stopper;43381623]What you are is a little spoilt teenage shit that hasn't worked a day in his life, with illusions of grandeur and absolutely no basic idea how society functions.[/QUOTE]
Again with the assumptions and insane attitude. I know damn fucking well how it works, or rather, doesn't.
[editline]1st January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;43381308]Because the opportunities an average Joe has are rapidly shrinking due to severe wealth inequality and stagnant job markets.[/QUOTE]
Start a business / make your own job?
Get more education while you wait for job market to improve, and making yourself more employable at the same time?
How is wealth inequality, "severe"?
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