School Bans Boy From Wearing ‘My Little Pony’ Backpack, Claims It’s A ‘Trigger For Bullying’ - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ADT;44271848]I'm probably sure there is much more to the story about the young boy than the article is trying to make. I won't be surprised if the actual truth was that the kid was pretty much doing his best to show to everyone that he liked MLP.[/QUOTE] Oh so you're literally pulling things out of your ass for no reason he's fucking nine years old, dude, not every person with a dick that likes MLP is a mouthbreathing fedorable neckbeard [QUOTE=ADT;44271848]No one deserves to be bullied, and I stated that the whole experience wasn't pleasant, but it can have some positive results in the long run. Again, like I said, it pretty much depends on the individual.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, all those positive effects like [I]crippling social anxiety, learned helplessness and constant self-shaming[/I] you're dumb, dude

[QUOTE=Ownederd;44271868]welcome to victim blaming 101, i'll be your teacher for today. please review the example on the board.[/QUOTE] It's called being unbiased. [QUOTE=Tacosheller;44271894]Oh so you're literally pulling things out of your ass for no reason he's fucking nine years old, dude, not every person with a dick that likes MLP is a mouthbreathing fedorable neckbeard[/quote] Have you ever heard of autism or asperger's syndrome? I won't definitively blame the kid for being disabled, but it could eventually explain some things

[QUOTE=ADT;44271915]It's called being unbiased.[/QUOTE] Making unfounded guesses based on your discrimination against people who like something isn't unbiased

[QUOTE=varg666;44271052]I don't blame his school banning him from wearing My Little Pony backpack, because it makes him less then a man for wearing My Little Pony backpack anyway, but doesn't mean that I support him getting bullied TBH.[/QUOTE] I mean let's just look back what these men have become from this, to this. [t]http://i.imgur.com/Cwc8n6x.jpg[/t] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7vk1I65.jpg[/IMG] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling and overall shitposting, again" - Megafan))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44271906]Because then they have to pick sides. Then they have to define who's in the right and who's in the wrong. There's always two sides to every argument, and it's much easier and safer from the school's standpoint to just tell the kid to not wear the backpack.[/QUOTE] That would then imply that the bullies are in the right. I mean, they were bullying a kid over something and that certain something got banned because of the bullying, right?

I've had experiences of being bullied in the past and for once I kind of agree with the school. Yes, the bullying is shitty and things need to be done, but the thing is that the kid is placing a flashing neon sign on his back that says "Bully me!" and it sucks but kids are immature and don't really understand the repercussion. Simply put, if you don't want to be targeted, don't make a target out of yourself. Does it suck? Fuck yeah, but that's pre-school to college to working for a 60-year-old mentally incompetent bully. It's life, and it's hard, so why make it harder when you don't have to?

this kid is probably going to continue to get bullied anyway, do they think the bullies will magically forget who he was just because he stopped wearing the backpack? it's kind of fucked up that the school actually believes this will solve anything, it must be a terrible learning environment. they should focus on teaching kids that this "blue is for boys, pink is for girls" mentality is stupid and can be really harmful. they should also focus more on actually punishing bullying severely. i know its hard to reason with children but they should at least try to prevent bullying as much as they can in ways that actually make sense. i was in a similar situation in primary school for liking the powerpuff girls. it never even occured to me that it was intended for girls until i brought it up at school. i imagine this would be WAY worse because of the crazy bandwagon hatred against anything to do with MLP.

[QUOTE=varg666;44271933]stuff[/QUOTE] yes how dare people express themselves comfortably in a way that doesn't hurt others.

[QUOTE=varg666;44271933]I mean let's just look back what these men have become- -from this,to this. [t]http://i.imgur.com/Cwc8n6x.jpg[/t] [IMG]http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Japan-back-then.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What a nice big bushel of fresh-picked cherries you've got there friend Even if your assertion WAS actually true, who gives a shit? What's wrong with it? "Oh no, people are finally [I]expressing themselves![/I]" Like are you captain america and you just got unfrozen Back when you think the ~pinnacle of manliness~ was reached the entire population was still full of racist assholes you're basically the modern equivalent

What do you guys suggest the school does, exactly? Punish the bullies? That would be great, if the bullies were stupid and did the bullying where teachers could see it. And it's not just the physical bullying -pushing, shoving, name calling, punching, swirlies, etc- you have to be aware of. It's the social bullying too. Kid tries to join in, get told no because "you're one of those MLP fags" what can the school do? Tell the kids that said no to let you join in next time, and stop calling him names because of what he wears? That won't make the kid liked. He won't be accepted. He's still that fag who wears the MLP stuff, and the students that were mean, are going to continue being mean, regardless of what people in authority do. It's not the school's problem, it's a societal problem that starts and ends with the parents who are teaching their children -whether accidentally or not- that being an asshole is good, acceptable, or right in some way. You can't tell the school to do something when the problem has already set in. That's the type of reactive policing that you guys are always bitching about, so why is it acceptable here? Some people should just not be allowed to raise children, it's as simple as that. You want societal problems to disappear? Don't let future societal problems be raised by current societal problems. Make parenting classes a prerequisite to having a child. Have social workers work with parents of young children to make sure everything is going on track. Have pediatricians diagnose mental health issues at a young age, and then take preventative steps before the budding behavior becomes learned behavior. Think all of that's to much, that it's excessive? Then deal with kids getting bullied and committing suicide. That's all there is to it. This is life. You can't have your cake and eat it too, not all the time.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44271815]or you know fix the actual problem instead???[/QUOTE] what can the school do? have a faculty member follow the kid or the bully around all day and prevent them from being/doing bullying? also what would the family of the bully say? parents get pissed off when their kids get in the office, they get pissed off when their kids get awards, they get pissed off when the school changes the lunch menu... blame bad parenting if you will but the school's hands are tied, the kid has all his life to express himself, but for middleschool he really REALLY should not stick out im serious, in highschool when he gets a car he can paint a giant pony on the hood, but for now in middleschool and elementry school, he should just blend into the woodwork

[QUOTE=Sableye;44271810]actually... the school can and does have the right to tell him what not to wear to prevent him from getting phisically hurt and psychologically hurt[/QUOTE] So would you say that telling the victim he is at fault is the correct solution? [editline]17th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;44271979]what can the school do? have a faculty member follow the kid or the bully around all day and prevent them from being/doing bullying? also what would the family of the bully say? parents get pissed off when their kids get in the office, they get pissed off when their kids get awards, they get pissed off when the school changes the lunch menu... blame bad parenting if you will but the school's hands are tied, the kid has all his life to express himself, but for middleschool he really REALLY should not stick out im serious, in highschool when he gets a car he can paint a giant pony on the hood, but for now in middleschool and elementry school, he should just blend into the woodwork[/QUOTE] high school isn't by nature of being high school easier for kids. Kids in high school are still total cunts.

[QUOTE=varg666;44271052]I don't blame his school banning him from wearing My Little Pony backpack, because it makes him less then a man for wearing My Little Pony backpack anyway, but doesn't mean that I support him getting bullied TBH.[/QUOTE] types varg666 as he dies 20 years earlier than normal because of incredibly suppressed emotions because of stupid fucking gender expectations that people still believe for some stupid reason

[QUOTE=wooletang;44271965]What do you guys suggest the school does, exactly? Punish the bullies? That would be great, if the bullies were stupid and did the bullying where teachers could see it. And it's not just the physical bullying -pushing, shoving, name calling, punching, swirlies, etc- you have to be aware of. It's the social bullying too. Kid tries to join in, get told no because "you're one of those MLP fags" what can the school do? Tell the kids that said no to let you join in next time, and stop calling him names because of what he wears? That won't make the kid liked. He won't be accepted. He's still that fag who wears the MLP stuff, and the students that were mean, are going to continue being mean, regardless of what people in authority do. It's not the school's problem, it's a societal problem that starts and ends with the parents who are teaching their children -whether accidentally or not- that being an asshole is good, acceptable, or right in some way. You can't tell the school to do something when the problem has already set in. That's the type of reactive policing that you guys are always bitching about, so why is it acceptable here? Some people should just not be allowed to raise children, it's as simple as that. You want societal problems to disappear? Don't let future societal problems be raised by current societal problems. Make parenting classes a prerequisite to having a child. Have social workers work with parents of young children to make sure everything is going on track. Have pediatricians diagnose mental health issues at a young age, and then take preventative steps before the budding behavior becomes learned behavior. Think all of that's to much, that it's excessive? Then deal with kids getting bullied and committing suicide. That's all there is to it. This is life. You can't have your cake and eat it too, not all the time.[/QUOTE] this is all true, but the school has a lot of influence on the issue aswell. it's not reasonable to think that they can outright stop bullying but severely punishing it will reduce it significantly, right? the way this school is approaching the issue doesn't make any sense.

[QUOTE=wooletang;44271965]Too much to quote without being too big[/QUOTE] You make plenty of fair points, but the schools could help out, too. Punish the bullies, teach that gender roles are terrible at an early age, and don't just sit back and do nothing when a kid has a parent that failed to teach them those things themselves. Parents are the first preventive measure, yes, but schools could lend a helping hand to be the second preventive measure when the first fails, like a safety net. [QUOTE=Sableye;44271979]what can the school do? have a faculty member follow the kid or the bully around all day and prevent them from being/doing bullying? also what would the family of the bully say? parents get pissed off when their kids get in the office, they get pissed off when their kids get awards, they get pissed off when the school changes the lunch menu... blame bad parenting if you will but the school's hands are tied, the kid has all his life to express himself, but for middleschool he really REALLY should not stick out im serious, in highschool when he gets a car he can paint a giant pony on the hood, but for now in middleschool and elementry school, he should just blend into the woodwork[/QUOTE] Staying within the woodwork and not differing from the norm in the biggest mental development periods of any child's life only perpetuates the issue. It may be a tough transition, but you've gotta make these more accepting impressions on a child before that large developmental opening closes up as they get older. And it doesn't magically get better when you enter high school, especially since by then the norms they conformed to in elementary school and middle school are now pretty much set in stone.

Not the correct way to handle it, [sp]but the backpack is obviously for attention, just like the whole retarded fandom.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44272045]Not the correct way to handle it, [sp]but the backpack is obviously for attention, just like the whole retarded fandom.[/sp][/QUOTE] dude what the fuck are you talking about he's fucking nine years old

[QUOTE=wooletang;44271965]What do you guys suggest the school does, exactly? Punish the bullies? That would be great, if the bullies were stupid and did the bullying where teachers could see it.[/QUOTE] If they can punish the victim then surely they're able to punish the bullies instead, "didn't see it" be damned.

[QUOTE=JDER14;44270784]Isn't an act like that just bullying and persecution in of itself?[/QUOTE]Damn you! I came in here to post this. Seriously though, what the fuck. Why are we punishing the kid? He did nothing wrong. Punish the little shitheads who bully him. You are sending the WRONG message here.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44272057]dude what the fuck are you talking about he's fucking nine years old[/QUOTE] He shouldn't be punished for what the bully does, but I don't think the MLP fandom is anything more than an attention grabber.

[QUOTE=Y'all.;44272021]this is all true, but the school has a lot of influence on the issue aswell. it's not reasonable to think that they can outright stop bullying but severely punishing it will reduce it significantly, right? the way this school is approaching the issue doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE] It doesn't make any sense, but these types of situations are far harder to deal with than people are making them out to be. Like people mentioned earlier in the thread: the kids are still going to know that he likes that shit. Not wearing the backpack won't change that. The other thing that won't change, regardless of whether or not you suspend the probably 30+ kids that were giving him a hard time about it, is the bullying. Punish fifty kids, and you might stop forty. That's still ten bullies giving this kid hell, and as long as there is one kid making this kid suffer, he's going to be in a bad place. After a while, when he sees nothing getting better, he stops trying to bring it up to teachers. He figures that if he internalizes and ignores it, the pain will go away and the attacks will stop. He's wrong. It's going to continue, not because it's right, not because it's fair, but because that's how the world works. My school has an anonymous, digital and physical reporting system for bullies. You want to know how effective it is? A complete failure. Why? Because a bullied kid will only incur the wrath of a bully he reports, and if a third person reports the bully, the bully is automatically going to assume it's the kid he was picking on, and bully him more. So yeah, punishing the right people would make more sense. If it would do anything. But it won't, and the school system knows that. It's not going to waste its time and resources in mitigating a problem that it can ultimately never solve. It's going to do what takes the least effort and proves the most effective. Remove the target, and you remove the shooter. With less to aim at, the less effective he is. That's all they are trying to do, and it's all they can do, in reality. And yes, I realize that might seem like a contradiction, but kids will forget, or at least slow down with the bullying if not constantly reminded of what they are making fun of him for.

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44272080]He shouldn't be punished for what the bully does, but I don't think the MLP fandom is anything more than an attention grabber.[/QUOTE] you're just wrong, dude just because someone likes something outside of the garbage narrow gender ideals doesn't mean they want attention maybe they just, you know legitimately like something if you actually think everyone who does something differently is just looking for attention I'm really sorry

[QUOTE=wooletang;44272120]How the world works[/QUOTE] Yeah sure, you are right, that is how the world works. That is indeed how things go. And it's bloody awful! But... Who has the power to change that? We do. We all do. And the best way to set the change in motion is to leave a better impression on the next generation, so they can improve upon it, and pass it on to the generation after that. Not doing anything just because "that's the way it works" is a very, very bad excuse and just a reason to be lazy in my eyes.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44272135]you're just wrong, dude just because someone likes something outside of the garbage narrow gender ideals doesn't mean they want attention maybe they just, you know legitimately like something if you actually think everyone who does something differently is just looking for attention I'm really sorry[/QUOTE] I never said anything about gender ideals. I don't believe that it's a legitimate thing to obsess so much over because it's just a show, a mediocre one at that, and people frequently do it for attention. If you like something, that's fine, but to flaunt it so improvidently to everyone that you like it is kind of showing that you're craving that attention. You're putting words in my mouth here, and maybe he does actually like it, but I don't see that in this particular case at all.

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;44272143]Yeah sure, you are right, that is how the world works. That is indeed how things go. But... Who has the power to change that? We do. We all do. And the best way to set the change in motion is to leave a better impression on the next generation, so they can improve upon it, and pass it on to the generation after that. Not doing anything just because "that's the way it works" is a very, very bad excuse and just a reason to be lazy in my eyes.[/QUOTE] Which is why I'm advocating parental interference in the issue. It's not up to a government-created group of adults to look out for and protect, in every facet, the generation below us. It is partially on that group, but primarily on the parents. The world will work differently if they do something about it, but you cannot, and should not, blame the school system for the myriad of complex social and emotional issues displayed in this article.

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44272161]I never said anything about gender ideals. I don't believe that it's a legitimate thing to obsess so much over because it's just a show, a mediocre one at that, and people frequently do it for attention. If you like something, that's fine, but to flaunt it so improvidently to everyone that you like it is kind of showing that you're craving that attention. You're putting words in my mouth here, and maybe he does actually like it, but I don't see that in this particular case at all.[/QUOTE] He's not fucking obsessing over it, he's not flaunting it, he's wearing a fucking backpack are you telling me that you don't have ANY tokens of appreciation for ANY of your hobbies? how can you say you "I don't see that in this particular case at all" I had no idea you were some kind of psychic who can divine whether someone's actually interested in something from a few lines of text on a wepage you're literally just letting your bias against neckbeards cloud logical thinking

Im more surprised that a public school actually made any verdict at all on a bullying issue. When I went though public school, they didn't give a damn at all, teachers just told you to inform the bully to stop because it hurts your feelings. As for this incident, what the fuck. I can't stand bronies honestly, but I wouldn't go out of my way to bully one, and seeing this school punish the kid for being buillied. What the fuck

[QUOTE=wooletang;44272171]Which is why I'm advocating parental interference in the issue. It's not up to a government-created group of adults to look out for and protect, in every facet, the generation below us. It is partially on that group, but primarily on the parents. The world will work differently if they do something about it, but you cannot, and should not, blame the school system for the myriad of complex social and emotional issues displayed in this article.[/QUOTE] Whatever you say, I just think progression would go way faster if schools actually did more of their job, and [I]help[/I] teach, along with the parents as well. I'm not saying schools should solely handle it, nor am I saying parents should solely handle it. Schools and parents should work closely together on the issue to help prevent it from ever becoming an issue again. Frankly I believe parents should be more involved with their kids at school than they currently are anyways. It would help with more than just bullying and social issues, it would also further better education as a whole.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44272182]He's not fucking obsessing over it, he's not flaunting it, he's wearing a fucking backpack are you telling me that you don't have ANY tokens of appreciation for ANY of your hobbies? how can you say you "I don't see that in this particular case at all" I had no idea you were some kind of psychic who can divine whether someone's actually interested in something from a few lines of text on a wepage you're literally just letting your bias against neckbeards cloud logical thinking[/QUOTE] I'm just saying, he's just a little kid and it's natural for him to want to fit in with other people, so he's wearing the backpack and using this fandom as a way to fit in. Still, he shouldn't be bullied for it. Also we're both ignorant to the fact if he obsesses over it or not, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge on that, and I suppose I shouldn't either.

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44272229]I'm just saying, he's just a little kid and it's natural for him to want to fit in with other people, so he's wearing the backpack and using this fandom as a way to fit in. Still, he shouldn't be bullied for it.[/QUOTE] Or maybe the option that doesn't make the kid at fault: he legitimately likes a tv show and happens to find a group of friends he fits in with that also like the tv show