School Bans Boy From Wearing ‘My Little Pony’ Backpack, Claims It’s A ‘Trigger For Bullying’ - Polidicks

[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;44270786]punish the bullies, not the kid. why do schools always do this backward shit[/QUOTE]Probably easier to get the kid to not wear the backpack than get the bullies to stop being cunts. At the end of the day, they still have to educate them, so it'd be a hard sell for their parents that they get suspended or such instead of getting the child to stop wearing that backpack. Doesn't make it right, though.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44271121]Imagine if a girl was bullied for liking boys cartoons.[/QUOTE] Pretty common where I live and women are expected to be girly at all times.

[QUOTE=sltungle;44274033]See above. The message the victims should take away is that nobody will fucking help you, unfortunately. You need to learn to help yourself. It sucks but unless someone catches bullying first hand nothing is going to happen to stop it.[/QUOTE] If that's the message they are taking, don't you think that's a very blatant sign something should be done about bullying very quickly? Kids should not be taught to just suck it up because no one will help them, they SHOULD have someone to help them in the first place. This honestly is not hard to get.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44272135]you're just wrong, dude just because someone likes something outside of the garbage narrow gender ideals doesn't mean they want attention maybe they just, you know legitimately like something if you actually think everyone who does something differently is just looking for attention I'm really sorry[/QUOTE] Are you implying people actually like things? That is insane. Next thing you'll be telling me is that people have set up entire websites on the internet for the sole reason of discussing these things. Imagine that. Sites on the internet where people do nothing but discuss shit like videogames all day. Insanity.

[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;44274951]If that's the message they are taking, don't you think that's a very blatant sign something should be done about bullying very quickly? Kids should not be taught to just suck it up because no one will help them, they SHOULD have someone to help them in the first place. This honestly is not hard to get.[/QUOTE] It's also honestly not hard to get that it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to combat bullying without solid evidence but you seem to be struggling with that concept. The second we start hiring dozens upon dozens of security guards to follow every child's movement closely at school everyone is going to complain about that anyway so you can't exactly do much unfortunately. Unless somebody catches a bully in the act you either HAVE to deal with it, or stand up for yourself. I'm sorry that the world isn't a perfect ideal place where people fart rainbows and happiness, but that's the way it is unfortunately and the first 3/4 of my life taught me that very bloody well. You tell people what's happening and even if they care they tell you they can't do shit unless it can be proven.

[QUOTE=sltungle;44276138]It's also honestly not hard to get that it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to combat bullying without solid evidence but you seem to be struggling with that concept. The second we start hiring dozens upon dozens of security guards to follow every child's movement closely at school everyone is going to complain about that anyway so you can't exactly do much unfortunately. Unless somebody catches a bully in the act you either HAVE to deal with it, or stand up for yourself. I'm sorry that the world isn't a perfect ideal place where people fart rainbows and happiness, but that's the way it is unfortunately and the first 3/4 of my life taught me that very bloody well. You tell people what's happening and even if they care they tell you they can't do shit unless it can be proven.[/QUOTE]I've seen first hand how hands off schools are with the bullying problem. Hence why I dont shed any tears when I hear a bully gets the shit beaten out of them by their victim. They had it coming. Not that I condone hurting other people....but things tend to change once a bully realizes that their victims will no longer tolerate the bullshit. Once I finally stood up for myself, people left me alone. I still think we need a better solution for this crap. Parents, School faculty, I'm looking at y'all.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;44277708]I've seen first hand how hands off schools are with the bullying problem. Hence why I dont shed any tears when I hear a bully gets the shit beaten out of them by their victim. They had it coming. Not that I condone hurting other people....but things tend to change once a bully realizes that their victims will no longer tolerate the bullshit. Once I finally stood up for myself, people left me alone. [B]I still think we need a better solution for this crap. Parents, School faculty, I'm looking at y'all.[/B][/QUOTE] Have a hand's off "deal with it yourself" approach but keep an eye out for cases where it's getting out of hand/dangerous?

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;44272229]I'm just saying, he's just a little kid and it's natural for him to want to fit in with other people, so he's wearing the backpack and using this fandom as a way to fit in. Still, he shouldn't be bullied for it. Also we're both ignorant to the fact if he obsesses over it or not, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge on that, and I suppose I shouldn't either.[/QUOTE] Its okay to participate in gross victim blaming if its because of some internet thing I don't like, right guys? [editline]18th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;44273962]As much as I find the school's decision stupid, I have to admit. I would have laughed the fuck out at that kid's face if I saw him go to school with a MLP backpack. It's like fucking Milhouse Van Houten.[/QUOTE] Hands down favorite post in this thread, holy shit

[QUOTE=Crash155;44270903]why don't schools fucking punish the bullies like they fucking should[/QUOTE]When it was suddenly not okay to hit your kids for being an extreme shithead, that slowly formed into the current zero-tolerance policy hugbox shit we have now. I'll be the first one to tell you that child abuse is bad, I got the snot beat out of me when I was a kid, but going after that like society did had other consequences. You can really thank things like Oprah's silly fucking TV crusades, (Oprah's primary demographic was and still is bored housewives, most of whom had kids) Columbine, and the focus on childhood disorders (ADHD, autism, etc) in the media and popular culture for all of this. Now society is demanding the opposite of what they demanded in the 90's: do something with our children because they're out of control. Of course this demand has the same caveat as before, you have to deal with those unruly kids [i]somehow[/i] but you cannot yell at, threaten, or physically touch them in any way. This has created a culture of fear, not for the students but for the faculty, and so the zero-tolerance policy is a neat solution to solve everyone's problems. Since the teachers can't actually interact with the students, any incident is handled in such a way that minimizes interaction. I'm not too sure where the complete lack of an ability to deal with conflict came from, but it seemed to have showed up some time before I was born. Perhaps it was a result of the sexual revolution in the 70's, a side-effect that nobody saw, I have no idea. I do know that the "wussification of America" is a sort-of real thing and it was an unspoken policy when I was a child. You could see the "I don't want to deal with it, I'll get in trouble" attitude all over the place so I'm sure that had a lot to do with today's zero-tolerance shit. Really, I'd say that fear of resolving hard issues has caused far, far more problems than anything else and it's been with us for a long time. I'd say to get rid of the zero-tolerance policy we'd first have to learn, as a society, to actually deal with problems in a rational manner rather than with raw emotion and ignorance. Gun rights, crime, sexism, bullying, and a myriad of other issues are often made [i]worse[/i] by blind ignorance and complete contempt for logic and reason. [editline]18th March 2014[/editline] Jesus fuck where did those other four pages come from. I'm sorry for replying on something from the first page, I thought the thread only had 41 posts. :l

[QUOTE=sltungle;44276138]It's also honestly not hard to get that it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to combat bullying without solid evidence but you seem to be struggling with that concept. The second we start hiring dozens upon dozens of security guards to follow every child's movement closely at school everyone is going to complain about that anyway so you can't exactly do much unfortunately. Unless somebody catches a bully in the act you either HAVE to deal with it, or stand up for yourself.[/QUOTE] Where did I mention security guards? If you are going to argue against me at least keep it not flying into some odd dream. I don't think kids should be stood over and watched for signs of bullying. I'm saying that you saying "Well no one can do anything we shouldn't try" is idiotic to say and sends the wrong message to both the kids involved. You for example were bullied, and took away "No one can help me, it will be better to just be quiet and blend in." That's a silly idea to have really. [QUOTE]I'm sorry that the world isn't a perfect ideal place where people fart rainbows and happiness, but that's the way it is unfortunately and the first 3/4 of my life taught me that very bloody well. You tell people what's happening and even if they care they tell you they can't do shit unless it can be proven.[/QUOTE] I don't know how you aren't getting this but I agree that happens. What I am saying is we should be looking into ways to stop it happening, and not telling kids to just shut up and take it because bullies can't be stopped. Note again: Not saying what you say doesn't happen, I am saying it shouldn't be allowed to happen and we can't tell people to suck it up because it does. That's a ridiculous life lesson, and everyone should feel they have someone to turn to when things go bad for them. I don't know why you'd suggest they just ignore it. If ignoring works for someone the bully just turns to someone else, so congratulations you aren't the victim now, but someone else is.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44270783]I get what the kids mum is saying, but wearing an MLP bag, at a school is like asking to be bullied. There's no way around it, that's just they way kids are.[/QUOTE] Yeah let's teach kids to work around bullying and act in a way they don't want to rather than teaching them not to be bad people.

they should punish the bullies and remove his MLP bag

Warning the kid is great but banning is just over the top.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;44271565]Where are the MRAs when you need them.[/QUOTE] are you implying that an MRA would agree or disagree with that statement.