Trump stuns lawmakers with seeming embrace of gun control measures - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Episode;53168724]Didn't like Trump except for the possibility of a brighter future for gun rights and in general gun laws but it looks like instead of him not doing anything like I started to expect he instead is going completely south now. R.I.P. the only remotely positive thing about this man being president.[/QUOTE] Yeah the guy who lacks conviction on every issue, the guy who parrots the point of the last person to sweet talk him, that was a chance for a brighter future?

In a week from now, it'll be "I never said that, FAKE NEWS"

[QUOTE=Kiwi;53168073]This fell flat as much as I expect an argument about the earth being flat.[/QUOTE] Ironic...

[QUOTE=Sableye;53167883]hey Republicans, maybe when the democrats say he has no respect for law and order, we might actually be right. He's just as willing to waive due process as he is to waive enviromental reviews, he has no patience for anything, having lived his life with buttons to summon McDonald's for him decades before ubereats was created[/QUOTE] Surely you should be applauding this instead of driving it down right? Isn't this what you wanted, closer control over guns? You just sound like the sore loser which imo is exactly what you are. [QUOTE=Judas;53167921]hilariously, he's coming out in support of [i]the Obama-era Sandy Hook gun bill[/i] its like his mission to spite obama is so important to him that he'll try and do stuff that Obama wanted to do but couldn't, just to spite him[/QUOTE] You either want control of guns to stop massacres or you want less control of guns to be able to stop 'Dictator Trump', which is it? [QUOTE=DaCommie1;53168165]So Trump already had all the Democrats in the country against him, but I think now with that "Take the guns first" comment he's just managed to turn all the Republicans against him too. Truly an impressive feat to be so universally hated.[/QUOTE] This is exactly why gun control doesn't happen 'but mah Hilary!'. [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;53168160]I think I understand him now. If anything is a right, he's against it. He's against all rights. [/QUOTE] What happened to the rights of dead school children? [editline]1st March 2018[/editline] Yankee's are so partisan it makes my head turn, lack of common sense seems to be a common factor in the majority of them which is strange for the richest country in the world. Roll on India becoming a superpower I say. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=DeadWar;53169132]Surely you should be applauding this instead of driving it down right? Isn't this what you wanted, closer control over guns? You just sound like the sore loser which imo is exactly what you are.[/QUOTE] Do you not understand what due process is?

Has Trump ever actually been a pro-gun guy outside of his Republican/NRA election schmoozing? He's never struck me as such, he's a property developer from New York and lived in a sky rise hotel ffs. I don't think I've ever seen a photo of Trump holding a gun, standing next to a gun or at a range or on hunting trip or any other situation that would involve a gun. I wouldn't be surprised if he is deep down, against guns or more likely indifferent towards them

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;53169145]Do you not understand what due process is?[/QUOTE] Should you let a terrorist shoot first and then ask questions?

[QUOTE=DeadWar;53169147]Should you let a terrorist shoot first and then ask questions?[/QUOTE] Don't dance around it like this. You don't like due process? Just go ahead and say it edit: make bombastic statements, but never stand up for anything. yep, sounds like the usual trump defense

[QUOTE=Episode;53168724]Didn't like Trump except for the possibility of a brighter future for gun rights and in general gun laws but it looks like instead of him not doing anything like I started to expect he instead is going completely south now. R.I.P. the only remotely positive thing about this man being president.[/QUOTE] Always interesting to read how people managed to delude themselves into believing Trump would be good. In a hypothetical Hillary Clinton presidency I don't think much would happen to guns with a republican congress.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53168656]Come and take it, statist. Compromise is no longer acceptable. We can no longer watch vultures choose their cuts on a wounded animal.[/QUOTE] Am I misremembering or didn't you vote for Trump because you thought he'd be better when it came to gun laws?

He might be a shit president, but he's never been a boring one :why:

[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;53169741]He might be a shit president, but he's never been a boring one :why:[/QUOTE] I think I understand now why "may you live in interesting times" is a curse.

[QUOTE=AtomicSans;53169779]I think I understand now why "may you live in interesting times" is a curse.[/QUOTE] Because interesting times for some people means desperate times for others and terrible times for some and rough and unfortunate. People are dying because of Trump fucking up healthcare massively, people are losing money because of this "Tax Reform / Tax Cuts" fuck up, people are being banned from coming here because they're from certain countries, and so on. It may be interesting for some but that's only because the most terrifying bits haven't effected those people. Yet. If Trump goes unchecked, unchallenged, unimposed, and unimpeached, eventually his policy will affect [i]everyone[/I] but him and his friends.

[media]https://twitter.com/TravisAllen02/status/969182904399138817[/media] The Best Negotiator in the World at work, folks. :thinking:

Ok I don’t see much of a backtrack in that tweet

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53170093]Ok I don’t see much of a backtrack in that tweet[/QUOTE] I don't see much of [I]anything[/I] in that tweet. I read the intent as "I want to look less partisan to try to get Dems off my back, and I want some kind of bill passed but I don't really care what it is as long as it's popular and I get credit".

[QUOTE=gman003-main;53170121]"... I want some kind of bill passed but I don't really care what it is as long as it's popular and I get credit".[/QUOTE] Boy, I've heard that from Trump before. This year. He said he'd sign any DACA bill Congress passed, and he'd take the heat. Congress passed a bipartisan bill that everyone was happy with and Trump suddenly had a pissy fit and vetoed it. Even Republicans in Congress were pissed at his unreliability.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53167740]Didn’t that “bipartisan” bill from ‘13 mimic an even more retarded AWB? And suddenly Trump is for it?[/QUOTE] Trump is all for anything that makes him any more popular and makes it seem like he's actually accomplishing something other than being old, rich, and playing golf.

[QUOTE=Megadave;53168626]Yeah this can only be bad, all I can say is don't give your guns to anyone but democrats. We can have gun control, it just has to be for the right reason. Trump never does anything for the right reason.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me with this

Can I please have whatever Trump smokes? Seriously, I can now imagine why Sessions is constantly trying to keep the war on drugs going. Trump has probably clear-housed the entire DEA and ATF of their marijuana stockpiles.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;53168728]Yeah the guy who lacks conviction on every issue, the guy who parrots the point of the last person to sweet talk him, that was a chance for a brighter future?[/QUOTE] Well when the alternative was Hillary Clinton, yeah Donald Trump seemed hopeful for gun rights.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;53172033]Well when the alternative was Hillary Clinton, yeah Donald Trump seemed hopeful for gun rights.[/QUOTE] Unfortunate that there's more to running a country than gun rights huh. But I guess gutting peoples access to healthcare and turning the country into a xenophobic embarrassment is worth it to keep Shillary Killton out the White House right.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;53172033]Well when the alternative was Hillary Clinton, yeah Donald Trump seemed hopeful for gun rights.[/QUOTE] But would she have been able to Do that? I feel like she'd have had all the conservative fear mongering in the world around her preventing any actual legislation from ever happening but I suppose being a single issue voter is something many don't mind.

[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;53172086]Unfortunate that there's more to running a country than gun rights huh. But I guess gutting peoples access to healthcare and turning the country into a xenophobic embarrassment is worth it to keep Shillary Killton out the White House right.[/QUOTE] dude why don't you understand we know that we weren't talking about that we were saying that the [I]one[/I] good thing about a trump presidency is the possibility of a person who respects the second amendment i.e. finding positives where you can find them, we aren't validating his whole schtick, stop strawmanning ffs

[QUOTE=Zombinie;53172094]dude why don't you understand we know that we weren't talking about that we were saying that the [I]one[/I] good thing about a trump presidency is the possibility of a person who respects the second amendment i.e. finding positives where you can find them, not validating his whole schtick, stop strawmanning ffs[/QUOTE] But I don't know why you'd think he'd be good on it He was and is a populist demagogue. He'd say literally fucking anything. His personal history doesn't show any inclination towards firearms so I feel like if that single issue made you vote for Trump you do have to reconsider your stances. Not on guns, but on reality. Hilary would want to take the guns away. But logically, logistically, reasonably, was that EVER a chance? She's the most reviled politician in the US with literal propaganda machines working against her. Tell me with a straight face the republicans wouldn't have stopped the "Hilary's imaginary gun ban"? And no I don't like Hilary I wouldn't have wanted to vote for her either, and we should be moving away from the establishment politicians like her so I'm not defending her but this point always felt hollow as fuck.

[QUOTE=Zombinie;53172094]dude why don't you understand we know that we weren't talking about that we were saying that the [I]one[/I] good thing about a trump presidency is the possibility of a person who respects the second amendment i.e. finding positives where you can find them, we aren't validating his whole schtick, stop strawmanning ffs[/QUOTE] Looks like you missed the forest for the trees bucko!

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;53171473]Can I please have whatever Trump smokes? Seriously, I can now imagine why Sessions is constantly trying to keep the war on drugs going. Trump has probably clear-housed the entire DEA and ATF of their marijuana stockpiles.[/QUOTE] Trump is smoking Trump. He's not high, this is ordinary Trump; he's easily persuaded by whoever he last talked to. But at least you can bug out and go spend a few years hiding innawoods if your President turns out to be a populist tyrant who tries to delete the Constitution, starting with the Second Amendment, right?

[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;53172086]Unfortunate that there's more to running a country than gun rights huh. But I guess gutting peoples access to healthcare and turning the country into a xenophobic embarrassment is worth it to keep Shillary Killton out the White House right.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, can't have a discussion about the Democrat's attitudes toward gun owners without someone deflecting it onto healthcare or racism. But we're not talking about that, we're talking about Trump (or Hillary's) opinion on gun rights. And even if we weren't, I can have an opinion on more than one thing.

it's just really funny that people are acting like this is a surprise if you weren't expecting this sort of shit from trump then you haven't been paying any attention :v

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;53170066][media]https://twitter.com/TravisAllen02/status/969182904399138817[/media] The Best Negotiator in the World at work, folks. :thinking:[/QUOTE] Once again, after another tragedy that we very likely can do something, anything at all, about it that would help reduce the chances of it happening again, all we're left with is incompetent inaction via incompetence in action.