Helen Thomas, White House reporter for 57 years, resigns over Israel comments - Polidicks

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22495019]I'm trying to put it into a realistic perpective, this isn't the middle ages where groups can come and go. When you say something as stupid and unrealistic as that (what she said) to a public that mainly supports Israel you should expect to get shit for it.[/QUOTE] I agree that it is stupid and unrealistic. She does deserve the flak up to an extent. But lets not blow it out of proportion. She didn't say "Jews should get the hell out of Palestine and go back to the Warsaw Ghetto where they belong".

[QUOTE=CivilProtection;22482556]fyi jews are a race [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi[/url][/QUOTE] Ashkenazi jews are a race. That doesn't count for all jews

She should just have retired when she had her dignity, instead of going out looking like a loon.

After listening to her comments, I think they were taken out of context. She was laughing when she said it, she meant it as a joke.

[QUOTE=BigDumbBear;22503219]I agree that it is stupid and unrealistic. She does deserve the flak up to an extent. But lets not blow it out of proportion. She didn't say "Jews should get the hell out of Palestine and go back to the Warsaw Ghetto where they belong".[/QUOTE] I didn't expect anyone would link her comment to the holocaust or warsaw ghetto... Then I saw kero

Oh fuck everything about Israel always becomes a Israel sucks thread.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;22503306]Ashkenazi jews are a race. That doesn't count for all jews[/QUOTE] No, they are not a race. The Jews are a people, like the French and the Germans, not a race.

race is really just a social construct anyway. it doesn't have anything to do with skin color

[QUOTE=Lambeth;22503306]Ashkenazi jews are a race. That doesn't count for all jews[/QUOTE] The Jews are an ethnicity, Ashkenazi Jews are like a sub-group, they're "European Jews". There's also Mizrahi Jews, they're "Middle eastern and north African Jews". But all of them are part of an ethnicity. [editline]10:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22453977]It's not their homes, it belongs to Palestine, but they invaded it after world war two. There's nothing more antisemitic than Zionism.[/QUOTE] They didn't invade it after WWII. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#History[/url] Look at the table to the right, the Jews started immigrating there since 1880, and small groups have been living there for more than 2000 years.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22538013] They didn't invade it after WWII. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#History[/url] Look at the table to the right, the Jews started immigrating there since 1880, and small groups have been living there for more than 2000 years.[/QUOTE] the whole, you know, mass slaughter of settlers is kind of why zionism is evil as fuck and should be removed.

I don't think she meant it as a antisemitic term. She said, "The Jews should get the hell out of Palestine and back to their homes" Poland/Germany or whatever. Most of the Israelis in Palestine are from Poland and Germany.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22538084]the whole, you know, mass slaughter of settlers is kind of why zionism is evil as fuck and should be removed.[/QUOTE] That was only done by terrorist groups who were condemned by the main Zionist community, how many times o I have to say that? I suppose that Gazans don't deserve their own state because the Hamas is a terrorist group, according to your logic. [editline]10:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;22538085]I don't think she meant it as a antisemitic term. She said, "The Jews should get the hell out of Palestine and back to their homes" Poland/Germany or whatever. Most of the Israelis in Palestine are from Poland and Germany.[/QUOTE] Actually, it's almost 50% between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews. Out of the Ashkenazi Jews about 20% are from Poland, the rest are from other countries in Europe. There are almost no German Jews, there weren't many before WWII either, maybe about a few hundred thousand, and almost all of them were killed.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22538136]That was only done by terrorist groups who were condemned by the main Zionist community, how many times o I have to say that? I suppose that Gazans don't deserve their own state because the Hamas is a terrorist group, according to your logic.[/QUOTE] Irgun is now Herut led by Likud today.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22538178]Irgun is now Herut led by Likud today.[/QUOTE] So? They stopped their terrorist ways. If Hamas would stop their terroristic ways no one would still say they are terroristic.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22538136] Actually, it's almost 50% between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews. Out of the Ashkenazi Jews about 20% are from Poland, the rest are from other countries in Europe. There are almost no German Jews, there weren't many before WWII either, maybe about a few hundred thousand, and almost all of them were killed.[/QUOTE] LOL'D my ass off so fucking hard. Ashkenzi literally means "German Jews"

Oh and Russians are the largest group of Jews in Israel today, with 20% of the Jews being Russian or of Russian descent (that's 40% of all Ashkenazi Jews, double the number of Jews of Polish descent). [editline]10:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;22538248]LOL'D my ass off so fucking hard. Ashkenzi literally means "German Jews"[/QUOTE] Yeah so? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions#Statistics[/url] Only 2.7 percent are from Germany or Austria. The term means German Jews but it's because that's the country where Jews mostly lived during the middle ages, but then they were expelled east towards Poland and Russia. [editline]11:00PM[/editline] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Jews[/url] "Many Jews emigrated, and of the 522,000 Jews living in Germany in January 1933, only 214,000 were left by the eve of World War II. 90% of the remaining community was killed during the war."

[QUOTE=starpluck;22538085]I don't think she meant it as a antisemitic term. She said, "The Jews should get the hell out of Palestine and back to their homes" Poland/Germany or whatever. Most of the Israelis in Palestine are from Poland and Germany.[/QUOTE] No...

"Many Ashkenazi Jews later migrated, largely eastward, forming communities in non German-speaking areas, including Hungary, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, and elsewhere between the 11th and 19th centuries." [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews[/url]

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22538136]That was only done by terrorist groups who were condemned by the main Zionist community, how many times o I have to say that?[/quote] Led by then state military leader, Ben-Gurion [quote]I suppose that Gazans don't deserve their own state because the Hamas is a terrorist group, according to your logic.[/quote] The Zionists weren't fucking defending themselves from peaceful settler you nutcase.

[QUOTE=Warhol;22538629]Led by then state military leader, Ben-Gurion[/QUOTE] He only led the Haganah (Hebrew for defense), which put emphasis on only defending and was never a terrorist group. The Haganah was like a rival to the Irgun actually. [QUOTE=Warhol;22538629]The Zionists weren't fucking defending themselves from peaceful settler you nutcase.[/QUOTE] Sending rockets at Israel for 9 and a half years is defending them how...?

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22539306]He only led the Haganah (Hebrew for defense), which put emphasis on only defending and was never a terrorist group. The Haganah was like a rival to the Irgun actually. Sending rockets at Israel for 9 and a half years is defending them how...?[/QUOTE] The Haganah was a fucking terrorist orginisation... I didn't know farmers had access to rockets.

I'm really curious, warhol. Where are you from?

Ireland

[QUOTE=Warhol;22539887]The Haganah was a fucking terrorist orginisation... I didn't know farmers had access to rockets.[/QUOTE] Give me one source stating the Haganah was a terrorist organization.

...uh, bombing British shit and killing and raiding Palestinian-British police is not terrorism?

The Haganah didn't do any of that.

Night of the trainsssss [editline]11:36PM[/editline] just deny history, that's cool, burnemdown

I don't know sabotage sounds like something that would incite terror.

How about you post some sources backing up your claims?

It's an opinion. I don't need to cite a source. [editline]03:44PM[/editline] unless you're talking to warhol