Helen Thomas, White House reporter for 57 years, resigns over Israel comments
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Warhol, obviously.
Night of trains is on Wikipedia though
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Trains[/url]
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also this
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing[/url]
Both aren't related to the Haganah though.
[quote=wikipedia]After the war, the Haganah carried out anti-British operations in Palestine, such as the liberation of interned immigrants from the Atlit camp, the [b]bombing of the country's railroad network[/b], sabotage raids on radar installations and bases of the British Palestine police. It also continued to organize illegal immigration.[/quote]
Article link?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah[/url]
Don't know why they associate it with the Haganah, it says in the Night of the train's article that it was carried out by the Jewish Resistance Movement, which wasn't a part of the Haganah.
Edit: Well the JRM wasn't a part of the Haganah, but a small part of the Haganah was also in the JRM, as well as small parts of the Irgun and other militant groups. The Haganah probably still wasn't a part of the bombings.
Edit 2: Also, the article about the JRM lacks any sources.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22542260]How about you post some sources backing up your claims?[/QUOTE]
[quote]After the war, the Haganah carried out anti-British operations in Palestine, such as the liberation of interned immigrants from the Atlit camp, the bombing of the country's railroad network, sabotage raids on radar installations and bases of the British Palestine police. It also continued to organize illegal immigration.[/quote]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah#After_the_war[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Trains[/url]
also, it's fucking hilarious you asking me for sources.
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22542409]Both aren't related to the Haganah though.[/QUOTE]
uh...
Are you serious?
The night of trains is not related to the haganah.
Are you fucking out of your mind?
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22542515]Don't know why they associate it with the Haganah, it says in the Night of the train's article that it was carried out by the Jewish Resistance Movement, which wasn't a part of the Haganah.[/QUOTE]
The Jeish Resistance movement is not a single entity.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22542515]Don't know why they associate it with the Haganah, it says in the Night of the train's article that it was carried out by the Jewish Resistance Movement, which wasn't a part of the Haganah.[/QUOTE]
Haganah assisted the resistance.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun[/url]
sub-group of the Haganah
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[QUOTE=Lambeth;22542555]Haganah assisted the resistance.[/QUOTE]
he only reads what he wants to hear
[QUOTE=Warhol;22542568][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun[/url]
sub-group of the Haganah
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he only reads what he wants to hear[/QUOTE]
"Since the group originally broke from the Haganah".
Broke off, as in, no longer a part of.
Edit: The Palmach, which are a part of the Haganah, did take place in the bombings of the trains.
So the Haganah was semi-responsible for one terrorist attack, that still doesn't make it a terrorist organization.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22542651]"Since the group originally broke from the Haganah".
Broke off, as in, no longer a part of.[/quote]
lol, because that changes your roots, right?
[quote]Edit: The Palmach, which are a part of the Haganah, did take place in the bombings of the trains.
So the Haganah was semi-responsible for one terrorist attack, that still doesn't make it a terrorist organization.[/QUOTE]
cuz that was the only example listed, amirite?
King David Hotel was done completely by the Irgun, no Haganah or nothing.
And yes, it does. The Haganah and the Irgun were like rivals, as I said, they both opposed each other's tactics and ideologies, they were also politically "hostile" (can't think of a better word), like the left and the right, and later formed rival parties in Israel.
the Haganah is not "left"
Left in the context of the times?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;22451087]oh hey she's the woman from this picture
[img]http://img.moronail.net/img/6/4/2364.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I thought so.
[QUOTE=Warhol;22543258]the Haganah is not "left"[/QUOTE]
I wrote it as an analogy, just like how the left and right in politics are rivals, the Haganah and the Irgun were rivals.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22553701]I wrote it as an analogy, just like how the left and right in politics are rivals, the Haganah and the Irgun were rivals.[/QUOTE]
Except half the members kept going back and fourth. They seemed pretty close to be rivals.
[QUOTE=Warhol;22561880]Except half the members kept going back and fourth. They seemed pretty close to be rivals.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? Ze'ev Z'abutinski who was the leader of the Irgun HATED David Ben-Gurion.
The Saison was 10 years after that lol
What the hell is the Saison?
...are you fucking joking?
Looked at Wikipedia and there was nothing related.
Well?
Edit: Ah, if you're talking about this: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_Season[/url]
Then it's not what caused the Haganah and the Irgun to become rivals.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22564575]
Then it's not what caused the Haganah and the Irgun to become rivals.[/QUOTE]
uh
point out where I fucking said that
Well actually I had no idea what the fuck you meant but I assumed you suggested that because you said "that was 10 years after that", so I assumed you meant that they became rivals only because of the Saison.
So what did you mean?
They seemed to be pretty intertwined for a while after they split.
From what I know from studying the subject a few years at school, Ze'ev and Ben-Gurion only agreed on one thing, and that is creating a Jewish state in Palestine. They fought and argued about every other issue, so no, they were never close.
when half the fucking members go back and fucking forth between the irgun and the hnnngghh, something is a little wrong.
of course the irgun got too radical.
Source about them going back and forth between the two organizations?
In before sarcastic remark, copious use of the word "fuck" and its variations, and no source.
But honestly, it seems pretty evident that these Zionist groups are only fringe groups. Trying to use a minority is a majority is equivalent to trying to paint all Muslims as terrorists.
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