Mississippi Wants to Pass the "Jesus Take the Wheel" Bill: Church-owned Vehicles Won't be Required t
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[QUOTE=Cmx;47166009]But a bus is nearly the same as driving an RV, and guess what you dont need to drive one of those.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, an RV doesn't hold 16-30 people.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47166015]I don't know, an RV doesn't hold 16-30 people.[/QUOTE]
No matter what way you slice it, large vehicles are unwieldy to drive if you have little experience with them. I'd be one that would advocate having further licensing in order to drive more and more difficult vehicles, there are already a [i]ton[/i] of bad drivers on the road as it is, I wouldn't want to see any of them operating anything more threatening than a can opener, let alone something the size of a bus or RV.
There are different licensees for general motor vehicles, one for motorcycles, and the CDL as mentioned in this article. I see no reason why operating a larger vehicle should be encompassed by the same license that people get so they can drive a normal-sized sedan or SUV.
"Jesus, hold my beer while I try a sick 360 doughnut"
If it passes Jesus will be arrested for a DUI. The guy has a constant BAC of .125 or more.
[QUOTE=archangel125;47163046]Seems unlikely, since he can just fly or teleport anywhere.[/QUOTE]
I always imagined him getting around using a flying carpet, or am I get him confused with another disney hero?
The thing I'm wondering about, does this rule apply only to vehicles of the usual American Christian churches that we all know and love, or can [I]ANY[/I] self-proclaimed church make use of this new law. The pastafarian church for example.
If so; 30-passenger-pasta-party-bus here we come!
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47163105]Actually, not much different at all. You don't need a CDL to drive a fire truck, and those are even more dangerous due to the giant tank of sloshing water. The only difference is the brakes. Air brakes don't act exactly like hydraulic brakes. But that's easy to get used to. Other than that, it's pretty much the same. The only difference is that you have to use your side mirrors. There is no rear view per-say, so things like backing up are a bit more challenging, but if you take your time, it's no problem.[/QUOTE]
the great thing about fire trucks is they're driven by professional firefighters, who have been trained to drive a fire truck, and not by random volunteers from the station's bake sale group. Beyond that point, a fire truck [i]is not a public transport that hauls 30 people[/i], there's responsibilities and training that a random person who's only driven a minivan before would be hard pressed to learn on their own without causing an accident
[QUOTE=TestECull;47165885]There's a whole hell of a lot more different driving a medium sized bus compared to driving a car, or even an SUV towing a camper trailer.[/QUOTE]
There are differences, but you're under the impression that it's exponentially more difficult. It's not. Sure, it's a little more clumsy, but they don't accelerate like sports cars either.
For something that you can get used to driving in a weekend, which probably won't be used that often, having a CDL requirement is overboard. It's not just "take a test, drive around the block, and get your CDL". You have to pass extensive physicals regularly, have a certain amount of time behind the wheel with an instructor, and you have to constantly renew it. This isn't mentioning that when you do have a CDL, even a speeding ticket in your personal vehicle will put strikes on your CDL. The penalties are raised for everything. For a church, who would use a bus maybe a hand full of times a year to bring the choir sing to the elderly, this is overboard.
[QUOTE=GabrielWB;47166565]The thing I'm wondering about, does this rule apply only to vehicles of the usual American Christian churches that we all know and love, or can [I]ANY[/I] self-proclaimed church make use of this new law. The pastafarian church for example.
If so; 30-passenger-pasta-party-bus here we come![/QUOTE]
I'm sure any actual church will qualify. So pastafarian churches could do this as well. However, in order for alcohol to be consumed by passengers, the driver is required to have a chauffeur's license last I remember.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47166718]There are differences, but you're under the impression that it's exponentially more difficult. It's not. Sure, it's a little more clumsy, but they don't accelerate like sports cars either.
For something that you can get used to driving in a weekend, which probably won't be used that often, having a CDL requirement is overboard. It's not just "take a test, drive around the block, and get your CDL". You have to pass extensive physicals regularly, have a certain amount of time behind the wheel with an instructor, and you have to constantly renew it. This isn't mentioning that when you do have a CDL, even a speeding ticket in your personal vehicle will put strikes on your CDL. The penalties are raised for everything. For a church, who would use a bus maybe a hand full of times a year to bring the choir sing to the elderly, this is overboard.
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OK that makes a certain level of sense (not a lot mind you, because I would like to believe the license requirement was put there for a reason) but is there any reason why it should be limited to churches (unless the article is specifically making out to be about churches to make waves)? Wouldn't it make more sense to waive the requirement if the vehicle is used less than a certain number of times a year? Maybe retirement homes that only use it twice a year can benefit it from too. Or where would you draw the line, how many times a year or how many miles a year is too much and you would require extra certification?
Funny they consider it burdensome to obtain a cdl but not burdensome to obtain a voter ID
Fucking hipacrites
[QUOTE=J!NX;47166015]I don't know, an RV doesn't hold 16-30 people.[/QUOTE]
That's not what the law says. It says you can't drive a bus without a CDL. Period. It does not say "You can't drive a bus with more than 4 people without a CDL". Driving an empty bus and driving an RV are basically the same, sometimes they're even built from the same vehicle. But you don't need a CDL to drive an RV. CDL requirements are arbitrary and inconsistent.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47166866]That's not what the law says. It says you can't drive a bus without a CDL. Period. It does not say "You can't drive a bus with more than 4 people without a CDL". Driving an empty bus and driving an RV are basically the same, sometimes they're even built from the same vehicle. But you don't need a CDL to drive an RV. CDL requirements are arbitrary and inconsistent.[/QUOTE]
FYI if your RV is as large as a bus you need a CDL, and it really depends on your RV and how its made and how it drives. Its not arbitrary
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47162918]Meh, it just means that if there isn't a CDL driver in your congregation, then it's ok.
Honestly, I don't see how this could create a problem. It will most likely be used by churches to do things like community service or trips or whatnot. The only slight problem I see has to do with air brakes on busses, but even that's pretty easy to learn about. As long as it's congregation members only, it shouldn't be a problem.[/QUOTE]
Vehicle that large carrying lots of people- sorry I want that driver to be as qualified as possible...
Bill is unneeded IMO. Its not difficult to get a cdl- there's no huge expense in time or money involved. If a church can afford the vehicle and the upkeep of it- they can deal with the small additional burden of licensing their drivers.
[QUOTE=Richoxen;47162105]Because this is AMERICA!!![/QUOTE]
I think we have enough people in this nation that believes this is bullshit.
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