Google Starts Punishing “Pirate” Sites In Search Results - Polidicks

[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;37181473][url=http://dontbubble.us/]DuckDuckGo[/url]?[/QUOTE] New homepage and default engine, thanks a ton.

[QUOTE=Downsider;37181128]I don't understand why you guys so heavily support piracy when it has very clear implications.[/QUOTE] I don't see why I should download and share love.

It's a shame it has a stupid name, it has a good website

[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;37181473][url=http://dontbubble.us/]DuckDuckGo[/url]?[/QUOTE] New default homepage.

[QUOTE=alexojm;37180943]The point of being a search engine is for people to search something and find it quickly. The idea is that it finds things for you. By making it purposely find things slower and making it harder for you to find what you are searching you are just ruining your own search engine. That basically takes the point out of a search engine.[/QUOTE] a high number of takedown requests traditionally suggests illegal or unwanted results, and Google has never been one to promote illegal results Besides it's just one factor in a very complex set of weighted algorithms. It's not like it's gonna bump your favorite torrent site off the front page. More than likely it'll bump some more obscure pornography and warez sites off the first few pages.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37180944]I wonder what they think a 'pirate site' is? If they punish any torrent site, I'm a bit annoyed right about now[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/domains/?r=all-time[/url] They are going to punish the sites that get frequent removal requests.

Duckduckgo put advertisment links on next to every word until I restarted my computer.

So when I google "[song name] [band name] mp3," how will that affect me?

[QUOTE=killover;37185224]Duckduckgo put advertisment links on next to every word until I restarted my computer.[/QUOTE] No it didn't. You have problems on your computer not regarding DuckDuckGo if you really had this problem. You should probably boot into safe mode and scan your computer.

[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;37181473][url=http://dontbubble.us/]DuckDuckGo[/url]?[/QUOTE] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20516268/Picts/googel.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Greenen72;37185471][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20516268/Picts/googel.png[/img][/QUOTE] Was waiting for someone to point that out :v:

[QUOTE]We aim to provide a great experience for our users and have developed over 200 signals to ensure our search algorithms deliver the best possible results. Starting next week, we will begin taking into account a new signal in our rankings: [B]the number of valid copyright removal notices we receive for any given site[/B]. Sites with high numbers of removal notices may appear lower in our results. This ranking change should help users find legitimate, quality sources of content more easily—whether it’s a song previewed on NPR’s music website, a TV show on Hulu or new music streamed from Spotify. Since we re-booted our copyright removals over two years ago, we’ve been given much more data by copyright owners about infringing content online. In fact, we’re now receiving and processing more copyright removal notices every day than we did in all of 2009—more than 4.3 million URLs in the last 30 days alone. We will now be using this data as a signal in our search rankings. Only copyright holders know if something is authorized, and only courts can decide if a copyright has been infringed; Google cannot determine whether a particular webpage does or does not violate copyright law. So while this new signal will influence the ranking of some search results, we won’t be removing any pages from search results unless we receive a valid copyright removal notice from the rights owner. And we’ll continue to provide "counter-notice" tools so that those who believe their content has been wrongly removed can get it reinstated. We’ll also continue to be transparent about copyright removals. [/QUOTE] Google's official blog post Notice how the OP used [u]Torrentfreak[/u] as a source [editline]11th August 2012[/editline] You know, how it's blatantly lying

[QUOTE=Greenen72;37185471][img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20516268/Picts/googel.png[/img][/QUOTE] that isn't the only thing they do do you realize that? it's still a better alternative

[QUOTE=Greenen72;37185724]Google's official blog post Notice how the OP used [u]Torrentfreak[/u] as a source [editline]11th August 2012[/editline] You know, how it's blatantly lying[/QUOTE] This is pretty damning...

[QUOTE=l l;37185800]that isn't the only thing they do do you realize that? it's still a better alternative[/QUOTE] Unless you care to mention other stuff, everything that Duckduck promotes as their difference from google is completely negated by pressing a button

what about torrent websites with integrated Google search Will they just implode? :v:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/b99Yo.png[/img] This is what a take down looks like if anyone's curious. TorrentFreak makes it out like Google is doing this on purpose and it's all their faults, when in reality it's because of the DMCA. If they receive a report from them then they're basically obligated to take it down, else they'll most likely get sued.

This whole DMCA thing and this is a bunch of bullshit. Google offers a service, they are essentially giving us a map. These companies want google to blot out certain parts of this map because it interferes with their ideals and interests. If they can do this now, what about in 5, 10 years? When will it stop? Who can be trusted with this power!?

This is excellent news Piracy of my products will hopefully drop considerably if the warez sites hosting them are no longer 2nd place on google.

[QUOTE=Downsider;37181128]I don't understand why you guys so heavily support piracy when it has very clear implications.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm a video game developer so I'm pretty sure I'm allowed my own evolved view on the 'implications' of piracy. [editline]11th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The First 11'er;37186686][img]http://i.imgur.com/b99Yo.png[/img] This is what a take down looks like if anyone's curious. TorrentFreak makes it out like Google is doing this on purpose and it's all their faults, when in reality it's because of the DMCA. If they receive a report from them then they're basically obligated to take it down, else they'll most likely get sued.[/QUOTE] That's a takedown. That's different from a site being down-ranked because it is 'linked' to piracy. Which is what this thread is about, if you'd like to participate. :v:

[QUOTE=Ybbats;37187241][editline]11th August 2012[/editline] That's a takedown. That's different from a site being down-ranked because it is 'linked' to piracy. Which is what this thread is about, if you'd like to participate. :v:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Starting next week, we will begin taking into account a new signal in our rankings: the number of valid c[B]opyright removal notices[/B] we receive for any given site.[/QUOTE]

They're not required by the DMCA to down-rank search results because of this... What is your point?

[QUOTE=Ybbats;37187509]They're not required by the DMCA to down-rank search results because of this... What is your point?[/QUOTE] Your "linked" implies that the site in question is not illegally hosting copyrighted content

[QUOTE=Ybbats;37187241]Yeah, I'm a video game developer so I'm pretty sure I'm allowed my own evolved view on the 'implications' of piracy. [editline]11th August 2012[/editline] That's a takedown. That's different from a site being down-ranked because it is 'linked' to piracy. Which is what this thread is about, if you'd like to participate. :v:[/QUOTE] It's the same exact thing. Sites are down-ranked (which is basically taking it down, seeing as no one will find it in the vast amount of Google pages a search would yield) due to copyrighted material being reported to them.

[QUOTE=Remscar;37186706]This whole DMCA thing and this is a bunch of bullshit. Google offers a service, they are essentially giving us a map. These companies want google to blot out certain parts of this map because it interferes with their ideals and interests. If they can do this now, what about in 5, 10 years? When will it stop? Who can be trusted with this power!?[/QUOTE] Piracy is illegal. Last time I checked maps don't show locations of black markets or drug dealers. If you don't pirate this will have zero impact on quality of search results.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37187893]Piracy is illegal. Last time I checked maps don't show locations of black markets or drug dealers. If you don't pirate this will have zero impact on quality of search results.[/QUOTE] You didn't read the article, that much is clear. [QUOTE]Adding the high number of bogus DMCA notices which Google sees as valid, many sites may also be punished for the faulty takedown requests that copyright holders send. That’s worrying to say the least.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37187893]Piracy is illegal. Last time I checked maps don't show locations of black markets or drug dealers. If you don't pirate this will have zero impact on quality of search results.[/QUOTE] I think he's worried about how much unchecked control over information that companies are getting. For example, Viacom can effortlessly pull any youtube video for whatever reason they feel like it, in the name of copyrights, regardless of what the video actually was of. They don't have to follow any formal takedown process. It will only get worse from here.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37188044]I think he's worried about how much unchecked control over information that companies are getting. For example, Viacom can effortlessly pull any youtube video for whatever reason they feel like it, in the name of copyrights, regardless of what the video actually was of. They don't have to follow any formal takedown process. It will only get worse from here.[/QUOTE] Not much google can do there really. They either give uncontrolled access to companies or validate the requests but risk getting sued for "damages" as the validation is not instant. Google has so much content they cannot monitor all of it so it's easier to give access to the corporations. Google is a business too, and they care about not getting sued more than some bogus DMCA takedowns. There's really nothing google can do. Do you think they do this out of free will? Doubt it.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37188097]Not much google can do there really. They either give uncontrolled access to companies or validate the requests but risk getting sued for "damages" as the validation is not instant. Google has so much content they cannot monitor all of it so it's easier to give access to the corporations. Google is a business too, and they care about not getting sued more than some bogus DMCA takedowns.[/QUOTE] He was talking more abstractly, musing over what the future may bring. I'm assuming, of course.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;37187893]Piracy is illegal. Last time I checked maps don't show locations of black markets or drug dealers. If you don't pirate this will have zero impact on quality of search results.[/QUOTE] You really cant use that analogy. Anyway what sort of pirate uses Google?