[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;45835403]Yet that's true with nearly everything, what if her son was riding his bike on the street? 99/100 he wouldn't be hit by a car. You can't live life to any degree without risk, fearing that is just pure paranoia.[/QUOTE]
A bike is something that can be used for transportation. An airsoft gun is so you can go around and shoot each other until someone says "stop stop it hurts".
where'd he get the thing in the first place, why didn't the mom just throw it away or lock it up in a closet, and why are some of you assuming a 10 year old has some heavy duty gas powered beast and not some $20 plastic spring gun from walmart
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45835143]It's not child abuse if the child agrees on it, but if the mom just shot her child with it out of spite/to punish then it is.[/QUOTE]
So if a child agrees to have sex with a pedophile then it's not child abuse. That's your logic.
[QUOTE=Apache249;45835054]I would say that misusing an airsoft gun in this manner does constitute child-abuse.
Bullshit[/QUOTE]
It's an airsoft gun. It barely stings for a few seconds. This case and the possibility of her children being taken from her is far more harmful that that pellet. Like Dai said, the kid wouldn't have access to an expensive gas-powered one.
[QUOTE=coldroll5;45836351]So if a child agrees to have sex with a pedophile then it's not child abuse. That's your logic.[/QUOTE]
wanting to participate in a plastic gun fight has the same weight and consequence as sexual consent ?
from the sound of it it was done out of stupidity and by all means it's a super minor case of abuse. It's not "call the police she's a fucking lunatic", but it's definitely something she shouldn't have done
People don't know how to parent anymore. You find something you don't want your 10 year old to have? It goes in the trash, and you tell your kid any other items he gets like that will also be thrown away.
I think the child abuse thing is about her shooting a gun at her kid as [i]punishment[/i]. Shooting him with that gun, in the context of normal use, isn't a big deal and everyone knows that. What she did was abusive. Does it deserve such a serious response? No, except maybe as a lesson to other parents that no, you can't shoot your kids to teach them a lesson.
[QUOTE=Apache249;45835054]I would say that misusing an airsoft gun in this manner does constitute child-abuse.
Bullshit[/QUOTE]
And your opinion is wrong. The kid wasn't even hurt by it. People like you can take the simplest, most straightforward shit and complicate it to the point of absurdity at the drop of a hat. This whole situation is ridiculous. This isn't child abuse, it doesn't warrant taking the kid away and throwing the mom in prison, the kid clearly doesn't want to lose his mom either.
Why is this even being discussed?
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[QUOTE=Apache249;45835054]I would say that misusing an airsoft gun in this manner does constitute child-abuse.
Bullshit[/QUOTE]
Yeah but, a FELONY?
[QUOTE=joost1120;45834944]Nope, you can remove them as you please, they just have to be there when you buy them.[/QUOTE]
No. It varies on where you live. Some states in america you can, some you can't. And some countries you can, some you can't. I don't think you can in arizona.
[QUOTE=joost1120;45834944]Nope, you can remove them as you please, they just have to be there when you buy them.[/QUOTE]
Though this is different in some countries, I can confirm this is true in the US. bought my gun pre-owned from a police officer and he had removed the orange tip and replaced it with metal :v:
My dad shot me with an airsoft gun when I wasn't paying attention to safety v:v:v
She does have a legit concern. Unarmed people in this country seem to have a difficult enough time avoiding being shot by the police. If someone calls the cops and says a person is running around the neighborhood with a gun in hand, they get the full militarized police response and those officers show up prepared (or probably hoping) to shoot and kill somebody.
Airsoft guns should not be out in public in anywhere urban or residential. If the wrong person sees and calls the cops, the odds are extremely high that you'll be shot before you get a chance to explain. Or, like that dude in Walmart a couple weeks ago, you won't even figure out the cops are there before they shoot you.
Sadly, we don't live in a society where people get the benefit of the doubt anymore. If a pearl-clutching suburban mom sees a person, especially a BLACK person with a gunlike object, they default to "I'm going to get raped", "I'm going to get robbed", or "Another mass shooting is happening RIGHT HERE!!!!" It sucks that Americans have become such a fearful people, but that's post-Columbine/9-11 hysteria for you.
When my dad was a kid, he could bring a rifle onto the school bus in a bag and nobody would bat an eye. They all knew what it was and they didn't care. Now, if you do that today, the bus driver will call the police and the police will arrest you.
[QUOTE=Noss;45836402]It's an airsoft gun. It barely stings for a few seconds. This case and the possibility of her children being taken from her is far more harmful that that pellet. Like Dai said, the kid wouldn't have access to an expensive gas-powered one.[/QUOTE]
Try telling that to the kid that got his eye shot out.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45839968]She does have a legit concern. Unarmed people in this country seem to have a difficult enough time avoiding being shot by the police. If someone calls the cops and says a person is running around the neighborhood with a gun in hand, they get the full militarized police response and those officers show up prepared (or probably hoping) to shoot and kill somebody.
Airsoft guns should not be out in public in anywhere urban or residential. If the wrong person sees and calls the cops, the odds are extremely high that you'll be shot before you get a chance to explain. Or, like that dude in Walmart a couple weeks ago, you won't even figure out the cops are there before they shoot you.
Sadly, we don't live in a society where people get the benefit of the doubt anymore. If a pearl-clutching suburban mom sees a person, especially a BLACK person with a gunlike object, they default to "I'm going to get raped", "I'm going to get robbed", or "Another mass shooting is happening RIGHT HERE!!!!" It sucks that Americans have become such a fearful people, but that's post-Columbine/9-11 hysteria for you.[/QUOTE]
I used to have airsoft wars with my friends when I was a kid all the time, right there in the street, nobody cared because they knew what we were doing. We always drilled into each other what to do if a Cop came around, which was to just immediately put it down and step away, don't drop the magazine or work the action to make it safe, just set it down. Any Cop who would shoot someone under those circumstances shouldn't be a Cop anyway.
It never happened, but we still did it, if parents taught their kids about this stuff it wouldn't be a problem. Airsoft gun or real gun, it's how you act with it that matters and if you don't know how to act then you'll just act the fool.
[QUOTE=Amic;45836571]Yeah but, a FELONY?[/QUOTE]
She shot him in the neck. The kids 10 years and being shot in the neck by his mother at an unspecified distance. The article doesn't specify the type of airsoft gun either. It was clearly harmless but the neck/head really shouldn't be shot at intentionally (on a little kid that is).
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;45841557]I used to have airsoft wars with my friends when I was a kid all the time, right there in the street, nobody cared because they knew what we were doing. We always drilled into each other what to do if a Cop came around, which was to just immediately put it down and step away, don't drop the magazine or work the action to make it safe, just set it down. Any Cop who would shoot someone under those circumstances shouldn't be a Cop anyway.
It never happened, but we still did it, if parents taught their kids about this stuff it wouldn't be a problem. Airsoft gun or real gun, it's how you act with it that matters and if you don't know how to act then you'll just act the fool.[/QUOTE]
Several years ago some friends and I went off into the woods at the edge of my neighborhood and played for a while. All the gear was in bags when we walked into the woods, and we got well out of sight of any other people. When we came back out (with everything back in the bags), we were greeted by an obese white woman SCREAMING about she was going to call the cops and they were going to come and shoot us if we ever came near those woods with guns again. One of my friends tried to explain they weren't real, but she cut him off with "I don't care, I will get the cops to fucking kill you if I see you motherfuckers again".
People like that don't stop to think. They don't tell the dispatcher "They look like guns but might not be real." They tell the dispatcher "Crazy violent thugs are here with assault rifles and I think they're trying to kill me so please sent SWAT now!" All it takes is one nosy busybody of a neighbor to look over the fence, make a hysterical call to the cops, and end up with somebody's kid dead in the grass. Never underestimate middle-aged suburban Fox News-watching white people fear.
Running around a residential neighborhood with airsoft guns is a stupid, asinine, extremely risky thing to do. Just because you got lucky, that doesn't mean it translates to everyone, everywhere. That guy in the Walmart I was talking about [I]didn't get the chance[/I] to put the gun down and explain. If somebody made a call like that on you and your friends, you wouldn't get the chance to explain either. Especially if you're black. Which, since you're trying to tell me "we ran around our neighborhood with airsoft guns and it was fine", I'm gonna assume you and your friends probably aren't.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45834619]If it was gas or electric within 5 metres it has a pretty good chance of penetrating skin, and since she was afraid of police mistaking it for a real gun, I doubt it's one of those shitty bright transparent plastic spring guns.[/QUOTE]
hey my bright shitty plastic spring gun is not a piece of shit
My dad shot me with an airsoft gun with my consent to prove a point[Firearm Safety 101 - Don't point it if you don't intend to destroy whatever you are aiming at]. He then allowed me to shoot him with the airsoft gun so he understood what it felt like as well.
I am unsure of the situation fully, so I will not make a full comment on it. If the situation was similar to what my father did for me, all I can say is that a felony is fucking retarded. If it was done without the child's consent to "prove a point" about why shooting people is bad, that is also pretty retarded.
You don't teach people firearm safety without their consent, and likewise you don't shoot a firearm, airsoft or real in the hopes of teaching some "lesson".
Also after going to the site:
[t]http://media2.abc15.com/photo/2014/08/28/KNXV%20Airsoft%20gun%20_1409288158661_7607494_ver1.0_640_480.jpg[/t]
It's a CO2 air pistol, fuck me man. I don't care what anyone says, you do not fucking shoot someone with something like that in the neck or leg.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;45836169]Can confirm, his airsoft gun sucks[/QUOTE]
Well it was an MP5 with about 110-120 m/s muzzle velocity, which is not the highest I know, no replace parts or anything in it. But human skin should be able to take a bit more than that. A small bird's skin however? About 70.
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