• Lessons of Hate at Islamic Schools in Britain
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i see a lot of defense and emotion, i don't see a lot of logic nor reasoning answer the question or admit that your thoughts are meaningless and detrimental to society
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;26251662]Ok so are you gonna say why or are you just gonna shout 'YOUR ALL RACISTS, YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME' and come off as not only arrogant but ignorant too. Seriously you sound like a bad troll.[/QUOTE] It's thisispain, all he ever does is go into threads and start shitstorms.
[highlight]what do you accomplish by thinking this way[/highlight] it's a very simple question you know
[QUOTE=thisispain;26251685]that wasn't the question people my question was, [b] what do you accomplish by thinking this way [/b][/QUOTE] Isn't that what we are finding wrong about this bigoted teaching in these schools?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26251745]It's thisispain, all he ever does is go into threads and start shitstorms.[/QUOTE] don't be a baby [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26251745]It's thisispain, all he ever does is go into threads and start shitstorms.[/QUOTE] don't be a baby so true that facepunch posted it twice
[QUOTE=thisispain;26251685] [b] what do you accomplish by thinking this way [/b][/QUOTE] The ability to see islam for what it really is instead of getting brainwashed and indoctrinated into the whole 'religion of peace' bullshit. That wasn't hard and didn't take a lot of thought. Still think your justified in calling US the bigots instead of THEM?
that wasn't the question either, the question is and i'll repeat it for the benefit of whoever is reading this: [b]what do you accomplish by thinking this way[/b] ergo, what possible good will " The ability to see islam for what it really is instead of getting brainwashed and indoctrinated into the whole 'religion of peace' bullshit. " do? it's a very simple question but your incapability of answering it is a sign of where your hatred comes from people since the dawn of time have hated islam for various reasons WHAT HAS IT ACCOMPLISHED there is a movement if you can call it that in england that is against Islam WHAT HAS IT ACCOMPLISHED
[QUOTE=The golden;26250066]Islam isn't so much a religion as it is simply one of the worst fucking things humans have ever created. I don't even think nuclear arms are as dangerous as the collective power of brainwashed Islamics.[/QUOTE] what are you talking about islam was created by ALLAH and passed down to muhammed and is a religion on PEACE!!
[QUOTE=starpluck;26250093]What is it with you and Pakis? and do you learn from your bans[/QUOTE] they smell of curry
well there you have it folks, so far not a single response to the question: what do you accomplish by thinking this way the reason is, they don't know if that wasn't obvious [b]please do not be swayed into their line of thought because it is irrational[/b] you can stand up against injustice and bigotry from any corner of the world, [b]but you must have enough self-respect to see where it is[/b] [b]the people who post garbage like that aren't interested in a better society, they don't even know how they are doing anything worth while[/b], so please [b]atheists, christians, all people on this forum: shun the thoughts of the people who post awful hate speech and think for yourself. hating and trying to destroy islam will not result in peace and solidarity, in fact, it's the same kind of thinking on both sides, us vs them, that has created this problem[/b] you don't need to fall back to traditional thought, act like humans, not like dogs
[QUOTE=thisispain;26251828] WHAT HAS IT ACCOMPLISHED[/QUOTE] Kept more innocent people from throwing scientific inquiry to the curb and subscribing to the real bigoted, rascist and appaling social structure. The less women and gays and atheists left unexposed to islam the less unjustified murder, rape, physical abuse, as well as psychological trauma. If you can't see that then you are the one here that is truly ignorant.
I invite The Golden and ShukaidoX to see it from a more humane aspect. does hate not lead to more hate? then how can we claim to stop hatred if we use hatred itself? [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;26251997]Kept more innocent people from throwing scientific inquiry to the curb and subscribing to the real bigoted, rascist and appaling social structure.[/QUOTE] sorry babe but that happens everywhere, islam or not islam was not involved in the jim crow laws was it [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] i know that it is difficult to not create an easy to identify enemy the west is queasy on islamic influence and so it becomes very easy to hate them because no-one will tell you you are wrong identify that it is the human condition, not what we call it, or else you'll fall into the same trap that led to a brutal era in human history
Welcome to then. This is now. We abolished jim crow laws. Why not sharia law too? Why not islam entirely?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;26252114]Welcome to then. This is now. We abolished jim crow laws. Why not sharia law too? Why not islam entirely?[/QUOTE] segregation still exists today what i'm asking you is that how can you maintain freedom of speech and freedom of religion, if you ban speech and religion? are we not supposed to be a liberal west, are we not supposed to be calm and inviting? how can we convert them to our system of thought if we present it as hostile that's why i ask you what it will accomplish there are plenty of muslim people that share our views on women and freedom. i know a couple myself but if you shoot a man, how can you ask him not to hate you?
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252033] identify that it is the human condition, not what we call it, or else you'll fall into the same trap that led to a brutal era in human history[/QUOTE] And what part would that be? [QUOTE=thisispain;26252188] are we not supposed to be a liberal west, are we not supposed to be calm and inviting? how can we convert them to our system of thought if we present it as hostile[/quote] Not exactly like the majority of them are such a friendly bunch. And I'm not just talking immigrants, I'm talking all of them. [quote]there are plenty of muslim people that share our views on women and freedom. i know a couple myself[/quote] Too bad there's way more that don't. [quote]but if you shoot a man, how can you ask him not to hate you?[/QUOTE] If he starts assaulting me first, I'll gladly shoot him.
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252033]I invite The Golden and ShukaidoX to see it from a more humane aspect. does hate not lead to more hate? then how can we claim to stop hatred if we use hatred itself?[/quote] Are you going to address my points? Or just read more quaran verses relevent to what you're thinking? It sounds to me like your just ignoring the facts I'm putting down. Islam kills, murders, rapes, destroys. It deserves no less than to be eradicated.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;26252204]Are you going to address my points? Or just read more quaran verses relevent to what you're thinking? It sounds to me like your just ignoring the facts I'm putting down. Islam kills, murders, rapes, destroys. It deserves no less than to be eradicated.[/QUOTE] humans deserve to be eradicated if we follow that system of thought. i'm sorry, i thought you were against murder [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26252192]And what part would that be?[/QUOTE] this era the era where we fight the fights of a thousand years ago
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252233] this era the era where we fight the fights of a thousand years ago[/QUOTE] Oh thank god. I thought you were going to give me a more sensible response like the Crusades or something. Perhaps I'm just expecting too much.
[QUOTE=thisispain;26251685]that wasn't the question people my question was, [b] what do you accomplish by thinking this way [/b][/QUOTE] Guys, you really can't reason with Thisispain. He doesn't actually have any arguments of his own, he just calls other people stupid and couldn't even come up with a logical argument why Islam was worth defending if someone put a gun to his head. In his mind he's got it all figured out, he's enlightened and everyone else is just an ignorant peasant. Stay strong Hebrew!
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26252268]Oh thank god. I thought you were going to give me a more sensible response like the Crusades or something. Perhaps I'm just expecting too much.[/QUOTE] feel free not to post at all i'm not forcing you to post here
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;26247152]Plus, virgins are so fucking clingy and dumb. Now imagine 72 of them.[/QUOTE] Does it specify in the Koran if they are actually ladies or just facepunch members
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;26252277]Guys, you really can't reason with Thisispain. He doesn't actually have any arguments of his own, he just calls other people stupid and couldn't even come up with a logical argument why Islam was worth defending if someone put a gun to his head. In his mind he's got it all figured out, he's enlightened and everyone else is just an ignorant peasant. Stay strong Hebrew![/QUOTE] same counts for you i'm trying to have a discussion about how islam is supposed to be dealt with, and you guys are fucking shitposting like a pair of little childeren i'm not forcing you to post so leave
[QUOTE=cjone2;26252330]Does it specify in the Koran if they are actually ladies or just facepunch members[/QUOTE] It doesn't. I shudder at the thought.
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252329]feel free not to post at all i'm not forcing you to post here[/QUOTE] Nor are you forced to post but you still go around spewing shit everywhere. [QUOTE=cjone2;26252330]Does it specify in the Koran if they are actually ladies or just facepunch members[/QUOTE] Well, this is a religion that treats women like they own them, so take a guess.
a lot of racism in this thread..
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26252369]Nor are you forced to post but you still go around spewing shit everywhere.[/QUOTE] excuse me, i have made an argument already have fun on my ignore list
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252233]humans deserve to be eradicated if we follow that system of thought. i'm sorry, i thought you were against murder [/QUOTE] I said Islam must be eradicated. Not all those who believe in it. No, that kind of vile xenocidal thought is exclusive to the muslims themselves. If you don't believe as they do, they'll take the first oppurtunity to do what allah says to you. Oh, right, that's murder. How can you sympathize with such atrocious belief systems?
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252360]same counts for you i'm trying to have a discussion about how islam is supposed to be dealt with, and you guys are fucking shitposting like a pair of little childeren i'm not forcing you to post so leave[/QUOTE] Islam cannot be reformed. It has to be eliminated. And you're right in asking the question you've been asking throughout the thread, what do we gain from thinking like this? We gain nothing as long as there isn't sufficient political will throughout the West to deal with this problem head on. But, seeing the way the wind is blowing, that might not be far off hopefully.
[QUOTE=thisispain;26252401]excuse me, i have made an argument already have fun on my ignore list[/QUOTE] Ouch, I'm so offended. Probably says more about the state of your argument. [QUOTE=Gentlemanne;26252426]Islam cannot be reformed. It has to be eliminated.[/QUOTE] Okay, now you're just being a little extreme.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;26252403]I said Islam must be eradicated. Not all those who believe in it. No, that kind of vile xenocidal thought is exclusive to the muslims themselves. If you don't believe as they do, they'll take the first oppurtunity to do what allah says to you. Oh, right, that's murder. How can you sympathize with such atrocious belief systems?[/QUOTE] yes, the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world all think like that. they're obviously part of a hivemind. you're a bigot.
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