Assholes donate $140,000+ to Darren Wilson, saying "Thank you for your service" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=avincent;45762829]Ah, okay! I rest my case.[/QUOTE] Joda Cain hasn't even been convicted, actually! The only physical evidence that links him to the murder he's been charged with is a bloody t-shirt. It just so happens that the blood on said t-shirt is actually his own. Beating someone to death with a sledgehammer would likely result in their blood being splattered on you, no? source, in case you want to try chewing me out for that: [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/north-of-26/index.ssf/2014/05/blood_on_joda_cains_shirt_isnt.html[/url]

"lets complain about people donating to a cop who probably would have died if he did not defend himself"

[QUOTE=AJ10017;45763043]"lets complain about people donating to a cop who probably would have died if he did not defend himself"[/QUOTE] "Let's donate nearly $200k to a cop because he killed someone" edit: alright I now get why it might be justified

[QUOTE=erfinjerfin;45763027]Joda Cain hasn't even been convicted, actually! The only physical evidence that links him to the murder he's been charged with is a bloody t-shirt. It just so happens that the blood on said t-shirt is actually his own. Beating someone to death with a sledgehammer would likely result in their blood being splattered on you, no? source, in case you want to try chewing me out for that: [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/north-of-26/index.ssf/2014/05/blood_on_joda_cains_shirt_isnt.html[/url][/QUOTE] Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure about anything relating to that whole incident. Hopefully avincent can get an argument together that doesn't rely on making blacks look scary to justify the shooting of Brown, or even better could just give up. [QUOTE=AJ10017;45763043]"lets complain about people donating to a cop who probably would have died if he did not defend himself"[/QUOTE] What says he would have died? And even if Brown was going to attack him there, was it necessary to use as much force as he did? Either way I wouldn't just simply call it self defense.

[QUOTE=erfinjerfin;45763056]"Let's donate nearly $200k to a cop because he killed someone"[/QUOTE] he did his job by enforcing the law. if the kid didn't try anything stupid he wouldn't have died

[QUOTE=AJ10017;45763089]he did his job by enforcing the law. if the kid didn't try anything stupid he wouldn't have died[/QUOTE] That doesn't explain anything, though. Assuming nothing about who's at fault here, why does he deserve so much money for this single action?

Sooo, let me get this straight. Cop shot man who was violent and committed numerous crimes, but those crimes are excused by the public because he happens to be black. And the cop was injured by said man, but again excused because the guy was black. So cop gets 140k donations for compensation. So, is this info right? Am I missing something? I find it hard to believe people are really this dumb.

Should all police officers receive such massive bonuses if they risk their lives? [editline]21st August 2014[/editline] muh automerge <:( [editline]21st August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=NoobSauce;45763125]Cop shot man who was violent and committed numerous crimes, but those crimes are excused by the public because he happens to be black.[/QUOTE] Please look things up first. He didn't have a criminal record. [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-no-record/14041457/[/url]

[QUOTE=erfinjerfin;45763129]Should all police officers receive such massive bonuses if they risk their lives? [editline]21st August 2014[/editline] muh automerge <:([/QUOTE] We saw what happened to Zimmerman. He lost everything and he's homeless. We could expect the same thing to occur with this man due to the massive public backlash. Fortunately, many people want to support this officer because they believe he did the right thing and doesn't deserve the public backlash.

[QUOTE=NoobSauce;45763125]Sooo, let me get this straight. Cop shot man who was violent and committed numerous crimes, but those crimes are excused by the public because he happens to be black. And the cop was injured by said man, but again excused because the guy was black. So cop gets 140k donations for compensation. So, is this info right? Am I missing something? I find it hard to believe people are really this dumb.[/QUOTE] Yes people are this dumb and they will use any excuse to riot and loot. Rest in peace Quicktrip.

[QUOTE=NoobSauce;45763125]Sooo, let me get this straight. Cop shot man who was violent and committed numerous crimes, but those crimes are excused by the public because he happens to be black. And the cop was injured by said man, but again excused because the guy was black. So cop gets 140k donations for compensation. So, is this info right? Am I missing something? I find it hard to believe people are really this dumb.[/QUOTE] It is more like an unarmed black kid gets shot in a majority black community with a majority white police force. People get mad over stuff not getting done or being disclosed and just about the situation as a whole. Eventually then, the Police release the name of the person who killed him, but at the same time also release footage possibly showing Brown committing a crime. Now since he is black and possibly robbed a store he must be an aggressive thug and the officer must have been in the right. Reports have come out about the officer being injured but as shown earlier in the thread, those are not exactly confirmed and released facts. Possible crimes are not excused cause Brown is black, you actually seem to be placing crimes on him because of that and excusing the crimes of the officer cause he happens to be a white cop who can't ever do anything wrong.

[QUOTE=Octavius;45763185]It is more like an unarmed black kid gets shot in a majority black community with a majority white police force. People get mad over stuff not getting done or being disclosed and just about the situation as a whole. Eventually then, the Police release the name of the person who killed him, but at the same time also release footage possibly showing Brown committing a crime. Now since he is black and possibly robbed a store he must be an aggressive thug and the officer must have been in the right. Reports have come out about the officer being injured but as shown earlier in the thread, those are not exactly confirmed and released facts. Possible crimes are not excused cause Brown is black, you actually seem to be placing crimes on him because of that and excusing the crimes of the officer cause he happens to be a white cop who can't ever do anything wrong.[/QUOTE] How can you sympathize a person who tried to take an officer's firearm away from him? This is ridiculous. It has been confirmed that he had been injured - [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905[/url]

[QUOTE=seano12;45763232]How can you sympathize a person who tried to take an officer's firearm away from him? This is ridiculous. It has been confirmed that he had been injured - [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905[/url][/QUOTE] That isn't confirmed though, you have a source who is basing it off an undisclosed source and other sources say their sources say the injuries were not like that. It's not confirmed yet. And I can sympathize with him because even if he had been trying to take the officers gun, at this moment it appears that his death did not occur during that struggle but rather occurred when the two were at a distance from each other. How can you sympathize with a person who put six or so bullets into an unarmed kid?

So whats the word on the piece of evidence that will decide this whole thing, was he shot while surrendering or not.

[QUOTE=seano12;45763232]How can you sympathize a person who tried to take an officer's firearm away from him? This is ridiculous. It has been confirmed that he had been injured - [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905[/url][/QUOTE] "according to a source close to the officer who spoke to ABC News today." Making presumptions based on anonymous "close" statements is not a good idea. Wait until hard evidence is released before you take something as a fact. If it's actually confirmed by the police department or the photos to be presented to the grand jury that he received a facial injury, then you have a solid point. For now, you don't.

[QUOTE=Octavius;45763280]That isn't confirmed though, you have a source who is basing it off an undisclosed source and other sources say their sources say the injuries were not like that. It's not confirmed yet. And I can sympathize with him because even if he had been trying to take the officers gun, at this moment it appears that his death did not occur during that struggle but rather occurred when the two were at a distance from each other. How can you sympathize with a person who put six or so bullets into an unarmed kid?[/QUOTE] Because he feared for his life. If he had not, then the chances of the officer dying would have been quite high. And there would have been no public outcry over his death.

[QUOTE=Ajacks;45762992]Well from the standpoint of a police officer I could understand donating to the officer, because it is most likely this guys life is going to be totally turned upside-down and he'll be forced to relocate, possibly go into protection, lots of turmoil. As an officer, I would hope that my fellow law enforcement community would be supportive if I had to something controversial and potentionally life ruining like in the line of duty. Now if the officer was unjustified in his actions then that would change the situation obviously.[/QUOTE] I just looked back and saw this post. If he's proven entirely innocent of the current accusations, then sure, that's fair.

[QUOTE=seano12;45763317]Because he feared for his life. If he had not, then the chances of the officer dying would have been quite high. And there would have been no public outcry over his death.[/QUOTE] And I don't think six bullets are required to stop someone from rushing at you to attack, assuming that is what went on. We don't necessarily know what went on, but if Brown did attempt to attack him I doubt that killing him was necessary to protect his own life.

[QUOTE=seano12;45763317]Because he feared for his life. If he had not, then the chances of the officer dying would have been quite high. And there would have been no public outcry over his death.[/QUOTE] How can you be so certain that he was in danger of being killed when there's currently no confirmed evidence that points to this? [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html[/url] "Mr. Brown, he said, would not have survived the shooting even if he had been taken to a hospital right away. The autopsy indicated that he was otherwise healthy." Michael Brown's autopsy showed that he was entirely fine, save for the gunshot wounds. If his clothing shows any signs, then yes, something may have happened. There are currently no completely confirmed statements on whether Wilson was injured or not. Calm down and wait for all of the information.

[QUOTE=Octavius;45763345]And I don't think six bullets are required to stop someone from rushing at you to attack, assuming that is what went on. We don't necessarily know what went on, but if Brown did attempt to attack him I doubt that killing him was necessary to protect his own life.[/QUOTE] Police officers are trained to eliminate the target if they must use lethal force. Six bullets is a good number for that since there have been cases of people who are able to still operate after being hit once or twice. He suffered a sub orbital blowout, and it was necessary in this situation to act in the way he did because of the advantage Brown had over the officer.

[QUOTE=seano12;45763397]Police officers are trained to eliminate the target if they must use lethal force. Six bullets is a good number for that since there have been cases of people who are able to still operate after being hit once or twice. He suffered a sub orbital blowout, and it was necessary in this situation to act in the way he did because of the advantage Brown had over the officer.[/QUOTE] What advantage did Brown really have over the officer? Cause it sure was not the possession of a weapon that can easily take people down, since it is the officer who had that.

[QUOTE=seano12;45763397]He suffered a sub orbital blowout, and it was necessary in this situation to act in the way he did because of the advantage Brown had over the officer.[/QUOTE] Brown was outnumbered and unarmed. His size doesn't make up for the fact that he's facing off against two armed officers. Also, again with the facial injury. PLEASE give me a source that actually confirms this happened.

What if the black people shot the white people back?

4 hours later facepunch doesn't realize who's behind this. hint : it's 4chan

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45763638]What if the black people shot the white people back?[/QUOTE] there are already tons of shootings constantly in north saint louis. but for some reason everyone wants to focus on this one incident

[QUOTE=AJ10017;45763729]there are already tons of shootings constantly in north saint louis. but for some reason everyone wants to focus on this one incident[/QUOTE] A police officer with uncertain motives is the one behind the gun, rather than a crack dealer

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45763638]What if the black people shot the white people back?[/QUOTE] Then you'd have a response similar to the current one except they'd be looking for a cop killer instead of controlling crowds.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;45761558]Yeah, CNN sure is a radical right-wing black-hating network.[/QUOTE] No but they are a network that will put aside their own political agendas for ratings and oooh wolf blitzed is getting da stars I hate how everyone presumes Wilson shot this guy in cold blood when the evidence supports that some clash erupted, let the FBI and the police do a proper report before you jump to conclusions this isn't like Zimmerman where it was essentially he said she said, there is plenty of evidence to corroborate his account

Lol, why would you donate to him now? What if he is found guilty? The smart argument being made in this situation is "Don't jump to conclusions, let the legal system figure it out, don't do smear campaigns against either party, etc." So why would you donate to him now? If he is found innocent then sure, he could use some cash. But this is stupid. Be logical through and through.

[QUOTE=NoobSauce;45763125]Sooo, let me get this straight. Cop shot man who was violent and committed numerous crimes, but those crimes are excused by the public because he happens to be black. And the cop was injured by said man, but again excused because the guy was black. So cop gets 140k donations for compensation. So, is this info right? Am I missing something? I find it hard to believe people are really this dumb.[/QUOTE] Actually it's more like nobody knows what the fucking is going on and is jumping to conclusions way to quickly, when really we should just let the court room handle this.