Science Explains Near-Death Experiences: Electrical Surge In Dying Brain. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=frozensoda;41818989]I always imagined that it would be cool the brain could process millions of times faster in the last stages of life, allowing you to spend "years" in a state of absolute freedom in just a few seconds in the real world.[/QUOTE] If I show up in heaven/hell after I die I'm going to piss off everyone in charge by just claiming it's this

Hmmm, would there be any way to induce this form of accelerated processing without bringing the subject close to death?

[QUOTE=ironman17;41821400]Hmmm, would there be any way to induce this form of accelerated processing without bringing the subject close to death?[/QUOTE] Super Computer Brains.

I'm not the biggest believer in the life after death, but I do find this depressing.

[QUOTE=ironman17;41821400]Hmmm, would there be any way to induce this form of accelerated processing without bringing the subject close to death?[/QUOTE] I think the chemical released at clinical death was DMT The drug with a short trip in reality, but it seems like a really long trip So yeah

DMT is released into the body and you trip balls.

[QUOTE=uitham;41821714]I think the chemical released at clinical death was DMT The drug with a short trip in reality, but it seems like a really long trip So yeah[/QUOTE] It lasts 15 minutes in reality. It is said to feel close to half a day. Bigger dose = more time. It depends person to person though. I Just read about a guy who took a high dose and perceived time as about 6 months.

I think people just go into a dream state, lots of religious people claim about seeing a flash of light or heaven/hell etc, you probably dream about something death related.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;41818041]No, no we haven't. Why do people always post comments like these?[/QUOTE] Sorry to briefly derail it, but I've noticed this trend as well for pretty much everything posted. Apparently, everybody on facepunch is a noble prize winning scientist, mathematician, doctor, engineer, lawyer, politician, game designer, social scientist, philosopher, and artist.

[QUOTE=frozensoda;41818989]I always imagined that it would be cool the brain could process millions of times faster in the last stages of life, allowing you to spend "years" in a state of absolute freedom in just a few seconds in the real world.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120606.gif[/img]

These news are somewhat sad in my opinion. I had a lot of theories for what happens while you die, and after you die. One of them was it just all ends and your body just wants to say good bye to you and give you a last gift, but not by just shutting off but by making you ready to die. I didn't like that one a lot because it's somewhat sad to just see an end like that. I also once had a dream, where I was 5. I went to a funfair with 2 girls ( for some reason I was older in the dream ? ). Right as we arrived, I had to go to the toilet. I went there, and wanted to began peeing but then suddenly someone cut my throat. I actually felt the pain. Then instead of the dream stopping I was in the kitchen, flying ( not older anymore ). I couldn't talk, I couldn't touch anything, I could only observe what happens. My mother was crying a lot, and my dad was filling in some papers. I kept trying to shout "I'm alive mom I'm alive", but it just didn't work. It felt like if tears came out of my eyes, and then I woke up and just fell down from my bed. I could barely breath but after few seconds everything was okey again and I just went back into sleep. Edit: Forgot to add - I believe if that wasn't just a really really weird dream for an 5 year old, I just got another chance.

Life continues on after death, we are just unable to comprehend this due to our physical limitations. Think about the caterpillar going through metamorphosis to become a butterfly.

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41822904]Life continues on after death, we are just unable to comprehend this due to our physical limitations. Think about the caterpillar going through metamorphosis to become a butterfly.[/QUOTE] Let's make ridiculous claims with no proof, experience or understanding

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41822904]Life continues on after death, we are just unable to comprehend this due to our physical limitations. Think about the caterpillar going through metamorphosis to become a butterfly.[/QUOTE] So does this mean I continue my life in 4D or some crazy shit Also this is why I would hate suicide by brain damage. It just seems scary. I always theorized your brain enters a permanent dream state before death, so destroying the brain = no dream state.

[QUOTE=Altimor;41822926]Let's make ridiculous claims with no proof, experience or understanding[/QUOTE] let's not have an imagination and only think what others tell us to be true

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823098]let's not have an imagination and only think what others tell us to be true[/QUOTE] Imagining things then believing them is a dead practice from the middle ages

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[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823098]let's not have an imagination and only think what others tell us to be true[/QUOTE] If he was simply taking what others told him as fact, he would have accepted your idea also. What people [I]really [/I]do; is accept those ideas with actual merit behind them. Yours doesn't qualify.

[QUOTE=Altimor;41823183]Imagining things then believing them is a dead practice from the middle ages[/QUOTE] Too bad everything we know to be a fact started off as something someone imagined. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. I don't need someone to approve my thoughts, especially when it's about something we as a species know essentially nothing about.

There's no reason to worry about death because you'll be dead. That's why you enjoy life as much as you can, because when it's gone you won't even be aware it existed. The molecules in your body are part of the elite, being able to arrange themselves to give you consciousness. Don't take that for granted, one day they will break apart again, and take on different forms. After all, we are all made from stardust :)

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823271]Too bad everything we know to be a fact started off as something someone imagined. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. I don't need someone to approve my thoughts, especially when it's about something we as a species know essentially nothing about.[/QUOTE] Yes, and then these things were proved. It's very different from making shit up.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;41818967]there was a gif of a piece of broccoli being MRI scanned that went around as a supposed "MRI at the time of death" on tumblr[/QUOTE] [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdr56c0fI1qkkcodo1_500.gif[/img] this is actually broccoli being MRI scanned [editline]13th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;41822169]brain chip comic[/QUOTE] that is fucking brilliant

[QUOTE=Altimor;41823316]Yes, and then these things were proved. [B]It's very different from making shit up[/B].[/QUOTE] Things aren't proven on the spot though and you have to start somewhere. Why is it such an issue that I believe something that doesn't have proven fact behind it? It isn't hurting anyone.

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823377]Things aren't proven on the spot though and you have to start somewhere. Why is it such an issue that I believe something that doesn't have proven fact behind it? It isn't hurting anyone.[/QUOTE] Most of modern science comes from observation and derivation, not making things up and hoping it's right. Stuff that was born from bullshitting was still not properly and fully understood until people applied the scientific method and figured things out. See: Alchemy, when people thought spirituality and magic was involved in chemistry.

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823271]Too bad everything we know to be a fact started off as something someone imagined. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. I don't need someone to approve my thoughts, especially when it's about something we as a species know essentially nothing about.[/QUOTE] Well as long as you admit it's just wishful thinking.

[QUOTE=Altimor;41823548]Most of modern science comes from observation and derivation, not making things up and hoping it's right. Stuff that was born from bullshitting was still not properly and fully understood until people applied the scientific method and figured things out. See: Alchemy, when people thought spirituality and magic was involved in chemistry.[/QUOTE] Okay, I see where you're coming from. But for me personally, I don't need scientific evidence to back up my thoughts about what happens after death. What would I benefit from proving or disproving it? I wouldn't either way. If my beliefs don't hurt or effect you, then why attack me for them? I don't sit here claiming your beliefs are bullshit because the numbers behind them don't add up or because a well-known name in science says you're wrong. Let people believe what they want when it comes to shit like this. Think about it man..death is the ending we can't see past. If I want to believe my story continues to go on after the flip of the last page, why is that wrong? Why would I want to believe that after all this, [I]nothing[/I] continues on? Whatever makes you happy makes you happy. I don't want to be a dick, but at this point it seems like you're going to tell your child santa isn't real the day before christmas.

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823796]Okay, I see where you're coming from. But for me personally, I don't need scientific evidence to back up my thoughts about what happens after death. What would I benefit from proving or disproving it? I wouldn't either way. If my beliefs don't hurt or effect you, then why attack me for them? I don't sit here claiming your beliefs are bullshit because the numbers behind them don't add up or because a well-known name in science says you're wrong. Let people believe what they want when it comes to shit like this. Think about it man..death is the ending we can't see past. If I want to believe my story continues to go on after the flip of the last page, why is that wrong? Why would I want to believe that after all this, [I]nothing[/I] continues on? Whatever makes you happy makes you happy.[/QUOTE] It comes down to whether you care if what you believe is true or not. If you don't care whether anything you believe is actually true as long as it makes you feel good, then have at it, you can believe whatever you like. Although there are consequences to that - you're not making your decisions based on an accurate picture of the world, which can be dangerous (e.g. living your life under the assumption that you'll have more life later on, will mean you might not value the only life you have as much). You also can't make any expect anyone else to take those beliefs seriously, because they're based on your own fantasy rather than the reality of the world. [QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41823796]I don't want to be a dick, but at this point it seems like you're going to tell your child santa isn't real the day before christmas.[/QUOTE] Presumably you're not a child. Would you object to someone telling a grown adult that Santa isn't real, because their continued belief in Santa makes them happy?

[QUOTE=BandClassHAH;41818132]AMC logo, bottom right[/QUOTE] thats from the walking dead season 1

[QUOTE=Tweevle;41824285] Although there are consequences to that -[B] you're not making your decisions based on an accurate picture of the world, which can be dangerous (e.g. living your life under the assumption that you'll have more life later on, will mean you might not value the only life you have as much).[/B] You also can't make any expect anyone else to take those beliefs seriously, because they're based on your own fantasy rather than the reality of the world.[/QUOTE] Doesn't everybody make their own decisions based on the picture of the world they create in their head? If your answer is no, then [B]show me an accurate picture of the world[/B]. Who is to tell me that I'm not valuing what I have as much as possible? If I tell you that I value my life 100%, then how are you to prove me wrong or tell me that I am not valuing it as much as i could? In fact, what is there to prove? Just because you see things differently than I does not mean you are right and I am wrong. I'm not trying to convince people that what I think is absolutely true or not, because it isn't. I'm just giving some insight into how I view things. [QUOTE] Presumably you're not a child. Would you object to someone telling a grown adult that Santa isn't real, because their continued belief in Santa makes them happy?[/QUOTE] Yes, I would object to telling a grown adult that santa isn't real if they still believe in santa. It doesn't effect me, so why should I force them to believe what I believe or think what I think? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41824808]Doesn't everybody make their own decisions based on the picture of the world they create in their head? If your answer is no, then [B]show me an accurate picture of the world[/B].[/QUOTE] Yes, it's impossible to get completely accurate picture of the world, since you're limited to your own experience and psychology. That doesn't mean it's not possible to get as close to an accurate picture of the world as possible, based on the evidence you've seen (that's what I meant, I should have phrased it better, sorry). The scientific method is one thing used to do this, and we know it does that effectively because it gives us accurate predictions that we can use to make things that work. It's very different from believing something without any evidence because it makes you feel good. [QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41824808]Who is to tell me that I'm not valuing what I have as much as possible? If I tell you that I value my life 100%, then how are you to prove me wrong or tell me that I am not valuing it as much as i could? In fact, what is there to prove? Just because you see things differently than I does not mean you are right and I am wrong.[/QUOTE] I did say "might not" - I'm not going to say for certain, but it's a risk. The point is that believing things without any evidence or in the face of counter-evidence isn't always benign, there are risks involved because you have no way of knowing if the decisions you make are based on what's true or not true. By dealing with reality on reality's terms you can avoid a lot of those risks. [QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41824808]I'm not trying to convince people that what I think is absolutely true or not, because it isn't. I'm just giving some insight into how I view things.[/QUOTE] Well, the way you phrased your post did kind of give the impression that you were making an authoritative statement about how things are. [QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41824808]Yes, I would object to telling a grown adult that santa isn't real if they still believe in santa. It doesn't effect me, so why should I force them to believe what I believe or think what I think?[/QUOTE] First off, no one's forcing anyone to believe anything. People criticising your beliefs isn't restricting your ability to believe what you want (that's impossible without some kind of brainwashing), it's just them giving their opinion. Secondly, it's a pretty big assumption that the person believing in Santa wouldn't affect anyone - what if they had children and the person just let Santa take care of the kid's presents? Because Santa doesn't actually exist, the children would never get any presents and so the Santa-believer might assume the children must be bad, and punish them for things they hadn't done. Believing in things for no good reason opens a whole can of worms. [QUOTE=MetalT0ast;41824808]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE] Beauty is a subjective personal experience. The existence of life after death or Santa isn't a subjective experience, it's a claim made about the reality of the world we live in, and it's either true or not. The main question is: Do you care whether what you believe is true or not?