• Facebook apologizes to LGBT community over real-name policy
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[QUOTE=Jesus Crits;46134384]People still use facebook?[/QUOTE] Yes? Because it's actually pretty damn useful for getting in contact with people. Especially if they use the Facebook chat on their mobiles and shit. Facebook isn't dying any time soon, and whilst I would prefer a different social media site to work (I actually quite like G+, it looks nice and is pretty intuitive), nobody else is moving. So it'll have to do.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46128533]That's right, being exclusionary and alienating customers for the sake of a policy no one asked for is the key to business success[/QUOTE] As much as I want to say this isn't true Youtube is still at the top of the video streaming business sooo...
[QUOTE=Seiteki;46127296]They've closed accounts of transgendered people until they've put their "real" name, as provided on a license or such. So yes, they do.[/QUOTE] FYI: They prefer you use the term "Transgender" and not "Transgender[b]ed[/b]", since the latter makes it sound like a process to go through while the former means that they were born with that gender
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;46133089]Yeah, you can go online with that name, but Facebook won't allow it on their service. You don't have a right to have any name you want on your Facebook profile. Now, I understand that people in the LGBT community are upset over this, but Facebook's original purpose was to find people you went to high school/university with and such. Them not using their real name makes it a lot harder, and a general policy change would mean an influx of people called "Big Dick Michael" and such - personally I find it annoying when people get through with silly names, makes it hard to find them. Now, this doesn't mean those with legitimate reasons for wanting a "fake name" on their profile, but you kinda have to understand Facebook's angle on this as well.[/QUOTE] But Facebook's de-facto purpose has gone way beyond that. It's now used for a myriad of activities besides connecting with real life friends. Being unable to find a friend behind an alias is a really small issue compared to Facebook's data usage policy, or the safety reasons for needing anonymity, or simply being sensitive about their real identity and internet identity. To be honest it's clear the push for real names is just Zuckerberg's baseless crusade against anonymity, however else the company's PR lackies might try to justify it.
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;46137628]But Facebook's de-facto purpose has gone way beyond that. It's now used for a myriad of activities besides connecting with real life friends. Being unable to find a friend behind an alias is a really small issue compared to Facebook's data usage policy, or the safety reasons for needing anonymity, or simply being sensitive about their real identity and internet identity. To be honest it's clear the push for real names is just Zuckerberg's baseless crusade against anonymity, however else the company's PR lackies might try to justify it.[/QUOTE]Which is why it makes me a little angry and also makes me laugh that they just chose to apologize to the LGBT community specifically. I mean they're alienating a lot of people, the LGBT community isn't small by any means (and has a significant online presence) but LGBT allies and supporters are an even bigger crowd. That's a lot of people who they've made angry! A lot of people that, honestly, never shut the fuck up when they're wronged and stir up a media shitstorm to get their message heard. So yeah it's kind of natural that they'd be the ones who get the apology, everyone else who can't muster that kind of "propaganda power" are still being hunted by the Facebook name police. This just makes it seem like their apology is basic bullshit, I think the choice of specifically apologizing to the loudest angry voice shows that Facebook's anti-privacy agenda is alive and well. They're not sorry they did it, they're sorry they got caught and called out. I have a theory that somebody in a disguise once took a shit in Mark Zuckerberg's locker at school and he never found out who it was. To this day he hates the very idea of anonymity, cursing the day the masked shitter defiled his trapper-keeper and got away scot-free.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46137541]FYI: They prefer you use the term "Transgender" and not "Transgender[b]ed[/b]", since the latter makes it sound like a process to go through while the former means that they were born with that gender[/QUOTE] And I've heard the opposite as well. It's difficult to get terminology right all the time, just depends on your audience.
[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;46127974]I don't even know where to start with this post the misuse of the word "irony"? the awful pun? the blatant disrespect for the LGBT community? jesus[/QUOTE] I think you should start at jesus personally
I don't know much about the transition process but I thought the legally binding stuff would happen relatively early into the process. I'd rather my license said my name was Jenny instead of Jeff BEFORE I turn my penis inside out. I'm pretty sure that's the process.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46137541]FYI: They prefer you use the term "Transgender" and not "Transgender[b]ed[/b]", since the latter makes it sound like a process to go through while the former means that they were born with that gender[/QUOTE] of all the pedantic shit
[QUOTE=Remedial Math;46138124]I don't know much about the transition process but I thought the legally binding stuff would happen relatively early into the process. I'd rather my license said my name was Jenny instead of Jeff BEFORE I turn my penis inside out. I'm pretty sure that's the process.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure you don't know anything and are just a cockgoblin like any of the other transphobic posters in this thread who think gender dysphoria is a joke
I didn't say it was a joke and I'm not transphobic, I'd just think you'd want to be officially recognized as your gender of choice and considering there's a period pre-op where you transition into your new identity, I assumed you'd want to be officially recognized as whatever you choose your new name to be. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but that seems like a better choice than getting the surgery and still legally going by Jeff. Or whichever gender you prefer.
[QUOTE=gk99;46128178]Wait, quick question: If you're going to identify as the other gender with an entirely different name, why wouldn't you get your name legally changed?[/QUOTE] IIRC you can't change it legally on your own in the US until you're 18, so if you're identifying as another gender with a different name but your parents disapprove then, yeah. Not only that, but [url=https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll/overview]at least in the UK,[/url] changing your name costs a severely asinine amount of money for what it entails. [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Gprimeisback;46128908]Well, it IS their real name. Not facebooks fault that prudes can't handle it.[/QUOTE] "Prudes"? lol. Also, tough shit. [url=https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll/overview]Within UK law[/url], I am legally allowed to use a completely new name in general at any time without any issue. It's just changing it on documents that involves dealing with legality, and that's a trivial (albeit ludicrously priced) thing to do. If I want to call myself Bumdy Gondo, then for all intents and purposes I [B]am[/B] Bumdy Gondo within the law, even if my driving license says Steve Merchant or whatever. I should be able to call myself whatever I damned well please, since I'm the one who has to recieve it as a referring statement all the time. Facebook is just being fucking asinine because advertisers don't want to buy false info, and to lockdown on people who use pseudonyms on the [B]internet[/B] is fucking stupid.
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