WIKILEAKS - founder Julian Assange 'to be charged with spying by the US' - Polidicks

The entire charge is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever seen. Sadly the US can get away with setting aside democracy, law, and reason because it's the US. Saddest part of all we're letting it happen.

Anyone else find it 'slightly' ironic that the US government is going to charge someone with "Spying/Espionage" when that same "spy" released information about the US government doing the [b]EXACT SAME THING?![/b] [editline]10th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=demoguy08;26605622]The entire charge is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever seen. Sadly the US can get away with setting aside democracy, law, and reason because it's the US. Saddest part of all we're letting it happen.[/QUOTE] I want him to go to prison, and I don't think any Assange loving Facepuncher has the balls to do anything about this.

Mega-thread for news is fucking shitty idea I want to check In the news section and read news-titles without getting into that crappy megathread, scroll down, look for stuff that is new, go past all that random discussion. [quote]I want him to go to prison, and I don't think any Assange loving Facepuncher has the balls to do anything about this. [/quote] Well, do you want us to try and force our opinion on you? So you can act like oppressed minority or something?

[QUOTE=O'10er;26605533]Elections bud[/QUOTE] The problem with a republic is you elect people to decide for you.

[QUOTE=mercurius;26605346]By hosting on American soil with amazon servers they could actually file a lawsuit against him. Seems pointless for me as he isn't the leaker, but the distributor and shall not be punished, but that just my point of view. If it's up to some trigger happy [del]fascists[/del] nutcases they'd hang him right before Christmas. [B]How the fuck is distribution spying anyway? He didn't go whistling to a PC, copied files and walked away jolly good.[/B][/QUOTE] He did view classified files though. Which is pretty much what the term spying is. Though that would mean they need to arrest everyone who looked at the files as well. And I agree with everyone else on this. I hope they release that password soon.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26605779] I want him to go to prison, and I don't think any Assange loving Facepuncher has the balls to do anything about this.[/QUOTE] You're hiding in the Internet and telling us that we can't find you and smack you in the face (or just don't bother). There's no need to do something about you. You're sad as you are.

[QUOTE=gudman;26605949]You're hiding in the Internet and telling us that we can't find you and smack you in the face (or just don't bother). There's no need to do something about you. You're sad as you are.[/QUOTE] :iceburn:

[QUOTE=gudman;26605949]You're hiding in the Internet and telling us that we can't find you and smack you in the face (or just don't bother). There's no need to do something about you. You're sad as you are.[/QUOTE] I guess the pot's calling the kettle black.

[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;26606174]I guess the pot's calling the kettle black.[/QUOTE] I'm not telling people that they can't do anything to me being all 'Hey, I'm right about that, go jerk off somewhere'.

[QUOTE=Orkel;26605264]There's no way some leaked files can cause a nuclear war.[/QUOTE] I don't necessarily mean nuclear war. I'm just afraid that the (relative) peace that dominated world politics in the last two decades may end. I don't want international conflicts. :saddowns:

[QUOTE=gudman;26605949]You're hiding in the Internet and telling us that we can't find you and smack you in the face (or just don't bother). There's no need to do something about you. You're sad as you are.[/QUOTE] I don't remember ever saying anything remotely close to involving you finding me in person. I'm saying his fans aren't going to do anything to keep him out of prison.

Kill him already.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;26605864]The problem with a republic is you elect people to decide for you.[/QUOTE] And those people are accountable for their actions during election time

US has become desperate...

owned [b]like a bitch[/b]

They have no case. He was sent the leaks, he didn't "spy" on the US to gain them.

It was a trap all along, oh U.S government, you so shady.

bullshit charge.

To quote Assange in his article on an Australian newspaper's website. "In its landmark ruling in the Pentagon Papers case, the US Supreme Court said "only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government". The swirling storm around WikiLeaks today reinforces the need to defend the right of all media to reveal the truth." The landmark ruling was of course that the press (Which Assange and Wikileaks technically are) are free to publish documents leaked to them. One of his lawyers mentioned this to a former US politician (a former assistant secretary of state who happens to also be a former professor of law) who was arguing that it was illegal on newsnight (British TV show for those who do not know) a few days ago and she was almost speechless. He then suggested that she studies her own constitution.

[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;26605159]How is exposing serious corruption not important?[/QUOTE] Care to point out just one document that exposes corruption? This is just for me, as personally i've yet to see anything other than diplomatic chatter and classified info that has absolutely no relevance to corruption.

[QUOTE=Jsm;26607705]To quote Assange in his article on an Australian newspaper's website. "In its landmark ruling in the Pentagon Papers case, the US Supreme Court said "only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government". The swirling storm around WikiLeaks today reinforces the need to defend the right of all media to reveal the truth." The landmark ruling was of course that the press (Which Assange and Wikileaks technically are) are free to publish documents leaked to them. One of his lawyers mentioned this to a former US politician (a former assistant secretary of state who happens to also be a former professor of law) who was arguing that it was illegal on newsnight (British TV show for those who do not know) a few days ago and she was almost speechless. He then suggested that she studies her own constitution.[/QUOTE] I believe the Supreme Court precedent you reference applies mainly to the documents relating to corruption and/or lying by the government. Some of the leaks fit this category, but others are classified in the interest of national security. These leaks would not be covered by this ruling, and the charges against Assange would apply to these leaks.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;26606848]They have no case. He was sent the leaks, he didn't "spy" on the US to gain them.[/QUOTE] Good job Mr. Lawyer, except they are charging him with receiving the leaked documents, not stealing them.

[QUOTE=wuzzimu;26607825]I believe the Supreme Court precedent you reference applies mainly to the documents relating to corruption and/or lying by the government. Some of the leaks fit this category, but others are classified in the interest of national security. These leaks would not be covered by this ruling, and the charges against Assange would apply to these leaks.[/QUOTE] I suppose, has the precedent ever been used in a case though? If he does ever end up in court (and I personally hope he does not) it will be interesting. Surely the same charges should be filed against The NYT, The Guardian, De Spiegel and the other newspapers publishing them.

[QUOTE=Jsm;26607943]I suppose, has the precedent ever been used in a case though? If he does ever end up in court (and I personally hope he does not) it will be interesting. Surely the same charges should be filed against The NYT, The Guardian, De Spiegel and the other newspapers publishing them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they'd really have to be really creative with over 200 years of precedents and reinterpretations of the Constitution. And with a case this large, I won't be surprised if it goes right to the Supreme Court.

is anybody really surprised they'd do this they've already put such a huge stigma on him over the US that nobody is going to riot about it anyway, not like rioting has ever gotten people released from jail anyway here's hoping the doomsday file is something pretty fucking awful but manages not to cause war which it wouldn't anyway

[QUOTE=STREWTH_99;26605108]Good, then all the news networks can go back to reporting on more important things than this wikileaks bullshit[/QUOTE] What exactly is more important than this? Fuck it would be the usual bullshit, some backwater third world fucking country commits another fucking genocide, north korea waves its dick at south korea declaring north korea as best korea and that one day the south will get a dick slap, and the south with keep waving their dick back saying not if I get you first! THERE IS NOTHING GOING TO GET REPORTED THAT IS REMOTELY AS INTERESTING OR IMPORTANT AS THIS!!

[QUOTE=Orkel;26605264]There's no way some leaked files can cause a nuclear war.[/QUOTE]They could if the leaked files contain the IP addresses, login details, DoD encryption certificates, and launch codes of some nuclear weapons control computer. :smug:

[QUOTE=bravehat;26608144]What exactly is more important than this? Fuck it would be the usual bullshit, some backwater third world fucking country commits another fucking genocide, north korea waves its dick at south korea declaring north korea as best korea and that one day the south will get a dick slap, and the south with keep waving their dick back saying not if I get you first! THERE IS NOTHING GOING TO GET REPORTED THAT IS REMOTELY AS INTERESTING OR IMPORTANT AS THIS!![/QUOTE] infact wikileaks is probably the most important thing to happen in a very long time but the government still insists in shouting and going NO DON'T BELIEVE THIS INFORMATION IT'S NOT REAL GO BACK TO YOUR HOUSES THE COUNTRY IS SAFE THE WORLD IS SAFE EVERYTHING IS OKAY EVERYBODY DON'T PANIC

It's more the fact that a lot of people are being fucking stupid and saying what he is doing is wrong. The government are trying everything they fucking can to muzzle assange, a fucking smear campaign to hold him up while they can set up a case on some obscure fucking footnote of a law so their secrets aren't thrown kicking and screaming into the fucking light like they should be. It's fucking ridiculous.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26608202]They could if the leaked files contain the IP addresses, login details, DoD encryption certificates, and launch codes of some nuclear weapons control computer. :smug:[/QUOTE] I don't think the US are dumb enough to put nuclear missiles anywhere near a connection to the public internet.