[QUOTE=Flapadar;42678512]Bathrooms should be either sex based or unisex - doing it by gender would open up a whole can of worms.
E.g. by your logic I could claim to identify as female and go for a quick perving; vice-versa[/QUOTE]
You could do that in a unisex bathroom though. It's not a big problem so who cares.
This is hell to architects. A lot of places already make you design 3 types of bathrooms: women, men and one for the disabled. Now we have to sacrifice even MORE space with a unisex bathroom.
I've had experience with unisex bathrooms though and it seemed to work pretty well. It wasn't awkward at all.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;42678558]Are you really that afraid of a little blood?
Damn dude.[/QUOTE]
Him finding that would be like a woman finding a massive bag full of used, tided off condoms.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;42678558]Are you really that afraid of a little blood?
Damn dude.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Penultimate;42678508]Oh come on, you pussy. It's just some blood. It's a perfectly natural, biological event that girls and women can't control.[/QUOTE]
You know what? You're right. Every time I've shot a deer while out hunting, I'm gonna soak the blood in a white T-shirt, and I'm gonna throw it in a bag, and I'm gonna hang it in my bathroom. After all, I am a [B]MAN[/B] and it's only natural for me to bring home the meat and shit, and since a bag of fucking blood isn't cause of alarm for anyone, this seems like the totally reasonable thing to do! Thanks!
[sp]Before people get pissy and call sexism/MRA/whatever, I'm mostly joking. It's kinda gross, but hey, it's probably a little less gross than people who leave streaks on the bowl or stuff, and that shit happens too.[/sp]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42678592]You could do that in a unisex bathroom though. It's not a big problem so who cares.[/QUOTE]
Unisex bathrooms tend to have higher stalls / the stalls go right up to the roof. And don't have urinals.
And I dunno how you think it wouldn't be a big problem - I'd be willing to bet shit would go down if I went down to a local bar/club and went into the ladies room. I'd probably come out looking like I'd been in a war.
[QUOTE=katbug;42678601]Him finding that would be like a woman finding a massive bag full of used, tided off condoms.[/QUOTE]
if you're going to find condoms in a bathroom, it's going to be in either one
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[QUOTE=Flapadar;42678627]Unisex bathrooms tend to have higher stalls / the stalls go right up to the roof. And don't have urinals.[/QUOTE]
why can't unisex bathrooms have urinals?
gosh, we have to think of those poor children who have to witness men facing a wall guarded by urinal separators at either side. shocking
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42678564]seperated bathrooms aren't all that different. western toilets are unisex, remember?
that would be an even bigger waste of time. who's going to be there to inspect if you have a penis or not?[/QUOTE]Would be more of a pain to redesign old mens restrooms to remove urinals etc. Would be much easier to just say you go into the bathroom based on sex.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42678644]Would be more of a pain to redesign old mens restrooms to remove urinals etc. Would be much easier to just say you go into the bathroom based on sex.[/QUOTE]
[quote=FlubberNugget]why can't unisex bathrooms have urinals?
gosh, we have to think of those poor children who have to witness men facing a wall guarded by urinal separators at either side. shocking[/quote]
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42678657][/QUOTE]
How many places do you know of that have urinal separators.. I can think of a grand total of 0 of all the bars in my city.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42678633]why can't unisex bathrooms have urinals?
gosh, we have to think of those poor children who have to witness men facing a wall guarded by urinal separators at either side. shocking[/QUOTE]
Well, we'll have ladies all asking about the fundamentals of urinal-territory size and why there has to be five urinals despite a maximum of three only ever being in use, with number two and four most likely not even being connected to the plumbing system, 'cause they're simply there for show.
How progressive
[QUOTE=Flapadar;42678668]How many places do you know of that have urinal separators.. I can think of a grand total of 0 of all the bars in my city.[/QUOTE]
it's not much of a task to install them. we even installed them after some years of not having them at a family restaraunt
[editline]28th October 2013[/editline]
not really sure what the massive deal is with a female having the small chance of catching a glimpse of a penis either way
[QUOTE=Riller;42678604]You know what? You're right. Every time I've shot a deer while out hunting, I'm gonna soak the blood in a white T-shirt, and I'm gonna throw it in a bag, and I'm gonna hang it in my bathroom. After all, I am a [B]MAN[/B] and it's only natural for me to bring home the meat and shit, and since a bag of fucking blood isn't cause of alarm for anyone, this seems like the totally reasonable thing to do! Thanks!
[sp]Before people get pissy and call sexism/MRA/whatever, I'm mostly joking. It's kinda gross, but hey, it's probably a little less gross than people who leave streaks on the bowl or stuff, and that shit happens too.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah, definitely. Like I hate women who don't throw away their used supplies. What kind of day are you having where you can't even put in the effort to clean up after yourself. That's gross. But, yeah, I get that you were joking.
Fist bump or something?
[QUOTE=Penultimate;42678508]Oh come on, you pussy. It's just some blood. It's a perfectly natural, biological event that girls and women can't control.[/QUOTE]
Something being natural doesn't conflict with it being seen as gross through an individual.
[QUOTE=proch;42678721]Something being natural doesn't conflict with it being seen as gross through an individual.[/QUOTE]
Well, yeah. It can be gross and stuff. I just think it's hilarious. Something I'm used to can be used to gross out a guy. Now I'm imagining myself chasing Riller with- you know what? I'm gonna stop there.
[editline]28th October 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Primigenes;42678745]Man feces sure is natural, and its something every one can make!! It really is a family fun activity.
Just because something happens to be natural doesn't mean its not gross as shit[/QUOTE]
Dude, you DON'T decorate them with santa hats and googly eyes?
[QUOTE=Penultimate;42678720]Yeah, definitely. Like I hate women who don't throw away their used supplies. What kind of day are you having where you can't even put in the effort to clean up after yourself. That's gross. But, yeah, I get that you were joking.
Fist bump or something?[/QUOTE]
Sure, fistbump. But if unisex bathrooms get universal and they have to cut the standard urinal-count from five to four for space, there [I]will[/I] be riots. Four urinals is fuckin' useless, might as well just have three. My local bar has three. And one fuckin' guy, he always takes the middle one. [I]Way to use up all three fuckin' urinals, fuckface![/I] So whenever you go to take a piss, all you can do is awkwardly ajust hair in the mirror, then walk back out.
I'm not even trans* and I hate the idea of gender separated bathrooms.
If one bathroom is empty, and one is completely full up, why the fuck am I expected to hold it in at DEFCON 2 just because the empty one says "women" on it? It's a crock of shit.
If you're trying to decrease segregation and discrimination, why would you want to create more segregating facilities like this? Surely the best course of action would be to do the opposite.
I don't get the point in creating 20-odd genders for people to affiliate with. As far as I'm concerned that just creates more division between people that might have been avoidable had you just said 'Hey look we're all humans at the end of the day'.
People's argument seem to be along the lines of 'Hey this stupid binary gender labeling system is stupid because it doesn't take into account the needs of trigender/adrogynous/asexual individuals who we will give yet another label' - Reducing discrimination and segregation should be about removing and reducing the impact of labels and reducing the importance of labeling, not about creating 20 different ones.
I don't really care very much about people's sexual preferences or gender preferences when I meet them, it doesn't really effect anything and I'm not sure why it would to anyone (although if I was attracted to a girl who was actually previously a boy, then it'd definitely be important and i'd want to know pretty quickly).
I don't see what the fuss is about, here in Sweden almost all public bathrooms I see have no gender assignment, the only difference I can think off right now is in certain privately owned establishments like bars and restaurants.
All that adding "gender neutral" bathrooms will do is create more segregation and discrimination.
There is a gender neutral bathroom in our uni and it's FAR cleaner than both the men's and the women's bathrooms. Long live gender neutral bathrooms.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;42679030]There is a gender neutral bathroom in our uni and it's FAR cleaner than both the men's and the women's bathrooms. Long live gender neutral bathrooms.[/QUOTE]
It is probably cleaning because nobody uses it
this is such a stupid idea. like the guy is trying to be nice and has a nice intentions, but he's going about it all fucking wrong
i don't want to use the "third, SPECIAL bathroom" i just want to use the fucking womens bathroom goddamn
[QUOTE=Paige;42679455]this is such a stupid idea. like the guy is trying to be nice and has a nice intentions, but he's going about it all fucking wrong
i don't want to use the "third, SPECIAL bathroom" i just want to use the fucking womens bathroom goddamn[/QUOTE]
And why should you get to use the women's bathroom but every non-transgendered male can't?
If there's going to be any solution to this that's fair to everyone; it's unisex bathrooms.
[QUOTE=Riller;42678781]Sure, fistbump. But if unisex bathrooms get universal and they have to cut the standard urinal-count from five to four for space, there [I]will[/I] be riots. Four urinals is fuckin' useless, might as well just have three. My local bar has three. And one fuckin' guy, he always takes the middle one. [I]Way to use up all three fuckin' urinals, fuckface![/I] So whenever you go to take a piss, all you can do is awkwardly ajust hair in the mirror, then walk back out.[/QUOTE]
It's really not a big deal to piss next to someone. Have you ever been to a sporting event?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;42678829]I don't get the point in creating 20-odd genders for people to affiliate with.[/QUOTE]
Then I guess it's a good thing nobody is doing that
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42679641]Unisex bathrooms would be amazing.
The chances of bathroom sex skyrocket 150%[/QUOTE]
if a peeper or a rapist wanted to do that, they would do it anyway. its not like a little sign is going to stop them suddenly.
This sounds like a huge waste of money over something that can be solved in a different and probably much cheaper way. Also, it's about time we go ahead and remove the taboo shroud from sex and the discussion of it in public in America. It's something that happens much more often than it's discussed, and with that it's not something that should be feared, but embraced. It's a simple and integral part of being alive, and people need to learn to just fuck and deal with it.
Some trans-gender folk will probably take this and spin it as "omg you're segregating us you don't think we're real people i'm telling tumblr".
You'll never please everyone.
I'm all up for the idea of anything gender neutral because I think it's important to break down the walls that society has created between men and women
But frankly man poop smells like 1000% worse and I don't wanna be forced to inhale it
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42679799]Then I guess it's a good thing nobody is doing that[/QUOTE]
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