Tarantino's take on "Magnificent Seven" - his newest western is called "The Hateful Eight" - Polidicks

[quote]For his first movie since 2012's Django Unchained[/quote] Wow, it's been such a long time, I've been wondering when he'd make another movie

[QUOTE=Trogdon;43506135]tarantino did well with inglorious and RD but the rest of his films are really eh i have never understood the hype. [B]the way he creates dialogue is like abhorrently unnatural and not in a fun way [/B] no one is being a ~*hipster*~ for disliking his stuff it's just really not very impressive[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, what? I would actually go as far as to say that his dialogue is usually the most believable and real. He has characters talk about just 'things', relevant or not they're just chatting. Often it feels very real much more so that many other movies.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43506112]Hating Tarantino involves disliking conversations and strong characterization I don't see how you can hate him without just having bad taste, even with taste being subjective[/QUOTE] "Nigger nigger nigger" bang bang slice (six gallons of blood covers the floor) "Nigger" It gets tiresome. The first scene in Inglorious Basterds was really tense, and the rest of the film was great, but he can get very tiring. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] This watch up his ass for sixteen years now let's have a dance sequence

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43506731]"Nigger nigger nigger" bang bang slice (six gallons of blood covers the floor) "Nigger" It gets tiresome. The first scene in Inglorious Basterds was really tense, and the rest of the film was great, but he can get very tiring. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] This watch up his ass for sixteen years now let's have a dance sequence[/QUOTE] Django is the most "meaningless" of all his films and is certainly just a good romp through a time period in a fictional sense. You also exaggerated it a shit ton. Like more than is even remotely fair. Inglorious basterds is a spaghetti western in europe set around killing hitler. It's full of good dialogue, interesting scenes, and solid characterization. Kill Bill Vol 1 and Vol 2 are both excellent kung fu flick tributes making fun of and paying tribute in very significant historical ways you may not be aware of. Over all solid action filming and solid dialogue again. Pulp Fiction is seriously one of the best meandering films with some of the best written dialogue in modern films. Resevoir Dogs sticks in line with the rest of these films in terms of tone and dialogue but is one of the best for it's overall feeling due to the world the conversations laid down for the audience. Jackie brown is a damn good film. I mean really, he hasn't made shit films.

I haven't seen all his films but the ones I have seen have been exercises in self-indulgence. I really couldn't give a flying chuff about dialogue or paying tribute to some B-movie once I've seen the sixth guy lose his head in a sea of "FUCK!"s.

then I feel you're missing out because his films are a lot more than that no matter how much you may want to boil them down to just being that simple.

I'm sure they are, and I'm sure I am. But I am just not capable of sitting through the amount of unnecessary crap he puts in his films. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] That dance sequence is one of the worst things I've seen. I'd heard about it so when I saw them at the restaurant my ears pricked up, and then it was just them dancing. Maybe there's some intricate characterisation to the way Uma Thurman moves her hands over her face, because it sure as hell wasn't funny. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] [quote]Everybody thinks that I wrote this scene just to have John Travolta dancing. But the scene existed before John Travolta was cast. But once he was cast, it was like, "Great. We get to see John dance. All the better."... My favorite musical sequences have always been in Godard, because they just come out of nowhere. It's so infectious, so friendly. And the fact that it's not a musical, but he's stopping the movie to have a musical sequence, makes it all the more sweet.[/quote] Nope, he just wanted to have a dance sequence.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43506850]I'm sure they are, and I'm sure I am. [B]But I am just not capable of sitting through the amount of unnecessary crap he puts in his films. [/B] [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] That dance sequence is one of the worst things I've seen. I'd heard about it so when I saw them at the restaurant my ears pricked up, and then it was just them dancing. Maybe there's some intricate characterisation to the way Uma Thurman moves her hands over her face, because it sure as hell wasn't funny. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] Nope, he just wanted to have a dance sequence.[/QUOTE] You're missing a main point in Tarantino's movies then so don't call his films bad if they're not your taste or you don't have the patience. You're literally drastically over simplifying aspects of his movies which most certainly isn't helping your case. The dance scene? It was a dance scene, don't think too much into it, the whole point of that story arc of Pulp Fiction was to see Vincent (who was incredibly reluctant to go out with mia wallace and was going to just humor her and treat it as a job) and Mia have fun, vega is caught off guard and ends up befriending her decently well, his job turns into a fun evening which make the scene in which she OD's on Vincent even more dire. You just literally seem to be taking things purely on a surface level.

If a new director had made Kill Bill he would rightfully be derided for filling the film with gratuities and superfluities. "Realistic" dialogue more often than not does a film harm, because it's just recreating what I can experience in real life. Dialogue should be believable but not inane. I don't want to listen to some guy misinterpreting 'Like A Virgin'. It's hard to not take his films at their surface level when he just deals in foul language and violence. It's 7 am and I haven't had a wink of sleep so goodnight. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFh-EssMC1M&t=270]PS he's got an ego the size of Jupiter and it comes across in his films.[/url] [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdWF7kd1tNo]This isn't even right[/url]

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43507098]If a new director had made Kill Bill he would rightfully be derided for filling the film with gratuities and superfluities. "Realistic" dialogue more often than not does a film harm, because it's just recreating what I can experience in real life. Dialogue should be believable but not inane. I don't want to listen to some guy misinterpreting 'Like A Virgin'. It's hard to not take his films at their surface level when he just deals in foul language and violence. It's 7 am and I haven't had a wink of sleep so goodnight.[/QUOTE] The point of the realistic dialogue is that when it's combined with interesting characters, it makes them more believable, making them even more interesting and fun to watch. You know, if you have any interest in people at all.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43506112]Hating Tarantino involves disliking conversations and strong characterization I don't see how you can hate him without just having bad taste, even with taste being subjective[/QUOTE] Did you seriously just say that people are [I]literally[/I] incorrect when they say they don't like tarantino? What if somebody doesn't like the drawn out dialogue? What if somebody gets super grossed out by blood and gore? [I]What if somebody simply does not like his movies?[/I] Are those kind of people wrong?

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43507225]Did you seriously just say that people are [I]literally[/I] incorrect when they say they don't like tarantino? What if somebody doesn't like the drawn out dialogue? What if somebody gets super grossed out by blood and gore? [I]What if somebody simply does not like his movies?[/I] Are those kind of people wrong?[/QUOTE] no I'm just making an exaggerated statement not a literal one so no but feel free to be offended and what not

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43507232]no I'm just making an exaggerated statement not a literal one so no but feel free to be offended and what not[/QUOTE] I just gave you three good reasons why someone might not like tarantino. Your loaded sentence at the front is pretty bogus, too.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43507252]I just gave you three good reasons why someone might not like tarantino. Your loaded sentence at the front is pretty bogus, too.[/QUOTE] then the films aren't for them and they shouldn't watch them? I just like them and made an exagerated statement satisfied? i don't get what argument you're trying to make, you're not talking to someone who made a serious statement saying "You don't like them, then you have super serial terrible bad taste guys".

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43507271]you're not talking to someone who made a serious statement saying "You don't like them, then you have super serial terrible bad taste guys".[/QUOTE] [quote]I don't see how you can hate him without just having bad taste[/quote] what, are you going to say 'you should be able to read my mind and know I'm not serious'

[QUOTE=catbarf;43507302]what, are you going to say 'you should be able to read my mind and know I'm not serious'[/QUOTE] Yeah, this. Usually I'm okay at picking up sarcasm or exaggerated stuff but this seems just like your other posts. I don't know you well enough to figure that out, so I'm sorry if I came off as angry or something.

[QUOTE=catbarf;43507302]what, are you going to say 'you should be able to read my mind and know I'm not serious'[/QUOTE] no not really sorry I didn't write a big sarcasm tag at the end I guess?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;43506481]His stuff is hit and miss with me. Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are great of course. The Kill Bill movies weren't really anything interesting once you get past the whole "Cool fights scenes!" aspect. [b]But like Inglorious Basterds just was a complete miss. It was just like "Ehh. Was that it? You couldn't do better with this?"[/b] Django Unchained is really the only one that is just good. It wasn't anything outstanding, but it was still a good watch. I think he has kinda lost his edge to be honest.[/QUOTE]But Inglourious Basterds is his overall best movie. Like, except making alternate history, which may be a hard pill to swallow for someone, and excessive but typical for Tarantino violence there's nothing wrong with that movie, everything is top notch. For this film I hope he will write some Indians subplot. I always liked stories about them, and it's always an interesting conflict.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43506775]Django is the most "meaningless" of all his films and is certainly just a good romp through a time period in a fictional sense. You also exaggerated it a shit ton. Like more than is even remotely fair. Inglorious basterds is a spaghetti western in europe set around killing hitler. It's full of good dialogue, interesting scenes, and solid characterization. Kill Bill Vol 1 and Vol 2 are both excellent kung fu flick tributes making fun of and paying tribute in very significant historical ways you may not be aware of. Over all solid action filming and solid dialogue again. Pulp Fiction is seriously one of the best meandering films with some of the best written dialogue in modern films. Resevoir Dogs sticks in line with the rest of these films in terms of tone and dialogue but is one of the best for it's overall feeling due to the world the conversations laid down for the audience. Jackie brown is a damn good film. I mean really, he hasn't made shit films.[/QUOTE] Cuz Death Proof is a heap of shit I'm sorry to tell you

Oh that Quentin Tarantino.

I want to buy a ticket already. Totally something to look forward to.

i cant wait to see tarantinos ugly face appear as a character in this movie

i didn't really like django that much the amount of tarantino-ness was overwhelming at times

So far all the resident tumblr FP posters I can think of have shown a dislike for Tarantino in this thread and it's ratings and whatnot. I miss when Tarantino was more obscure so he was then immune to hipster hate.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;43513009]I miss when Tarantino was more obscure so he was then immune to hipster hate.[/QUOTE] Isn't that exactly what stereotypical hipsters think??? "Gee I wish this thing I like was more obscure so other people wouldn't talk about it"

[QUOTE=The Baconator;43513009]So far all the resident tumblr FP posters I can think of have shown a dislike for Tarantino in this thread and it's ratings and whatnot. I miss when Tarantino was more obscure so he was then immune to hipster hate.[/QUOTE] Tarantino was never obscure ever. He was propelled into the spotlight directly after reservoir dogs. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=lazyguy;43507098]If a new director had made Kill Bill he would rightfully be derided for filling the film with gratuities and superfluities. "Realistic" dialogue more often than not does a film harm, because it's just recreating what I can experience in real life. Dialogue should be believable but not inane. I don't want to listen to some guy misinterpreting 'Like A Virgin'. It's hard to not take his films at their surface level when he just deals in foul language and violence. It's 7 am and I haven't had a wink of sleep so goodnight. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFh-EssMC1M&t=270"]PS he's got an ego the size of Jupiter and it comes across in his films.[/URL] [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdWF7kd1tNo"]This isn't even right[/URL][/QUOTE] Once again Tarantino films are not at all for you then. Literally one the the driving factors of his movies is dialogue. His films have plenty of just normal conversation which personally i love and many many others love as well. Like in reservoir dogs, the tipping scene, pulp fiction was mostly just characters talking about whatever, Inglorious Bastards is an almost perfect movie that shows this as well, the opening scene with Waltz could have only lasted a few minutes but instead he drug it out amazingly stylishly with just conversation. Hell even for movies he didn't direct like Dusk til Dawn has this. It's like hating a Scorsese movie because it has heavy drug use, those movies are expected to have shit like that. Don't go see a crime drama movie if you don't want the drama, don't see a movie about a detective if you hate internal monologues ect ect. This is more a problem on your end. You don't like the director that's fine, then don't watch the film. Don't see the film anyway with a bias and then just use it to fuel your fire against him. Because your major complaint is one the main reasons why most people love his movies.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;43513093]Isn't that exactly what stereotypical hipsters think??? "Gee I wish this thing I like was more obscure so other people wouldn't talk about it"[/QUOTE] it doesn't bother me if it is. I just remember Tarantino used to be considered the tasteful viewer's choice, as opposed to the people who watched le funny toilet humor adam sandler or Spooderman horrible movie.

[QUOTE=mysteryman;43513157]Tarantino was never obscure ever. He was propelled into the spotlight directly after reservoir dogs. [editline]12th January 2014[/editline] Once again Tarantino films are not at all for you then. Literally one the the driving factors of his movies is dialogue. His films have plenty of just normal conversation which personally i love and many many others love as well. Like in reservoir dogs, the tipping scene, pulp fiction was mostly just characters talking about whatever, Inglorious Bastards is an almost perfect movie that shows this as well, the opening scene with Waltz could have only lasted a few minutes but instead he drug it out amazingly stylishly with just conversation. Hell even for movies he didn't direct like Dusk til Dawn has this. It's like hating a Scorsese movie because it has heavy drug use, those movies are expected to have shit like that. Don't go see a crime drama movie if you don't want the drama, don't see a movie about a detective if you hate internal monologues ect ect. This is more a problem on your end. You don't like the director that's fine, then don't watch the film. Don't see the film anyway with a bias and then just use it to fuel your fire against him. Because your major complaint is one the main reasons why most people love his movies.[/QUOTE] So, basically, me not liking his films for some reason is just my personal bias, but other people liking his films [I]for the exact same reasons[/I] makes him objectively good?

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43513391]So, basically, me not liking his films for some reason is just my personal bias, but other people liking his films [I]for the exact same reasons[/I] makes him objectively good?[/QUOTE] he makes strong films. His edits are well done. His shots are well lit. His shots are well ordered. His directorial decisions with actors are strong in many situations. He's just a strong film maker when you look at his films from a film makers perspective and he gets a lot of respect for that. no one's saying you have to like him but he is a strong film maker and if you really want to argue that he's just terrible then you'd have to mount an argument beyond "he has lots of swear words and violence therefore his films are only as simple as violence" because that's not really accurate.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43513391]So, basically, me not liking his films for some reason is just my personal bias, but other people liking his films [I]for the exact same reasons[/I] makes him objectively good?[/QUOTE] You're part of the minority. But those who are typically against him are against him entirely and not just a niche aspect such as "they talk too much". I'm saying you hate him for his dialogue writing yet you keep going to see the movies knowing full well that there has never been a tarantino movie that wasn't heavy on the dialogue. You're just a bane towards yourself in that regard. I'm not saying it's bias because of just some reasons, i'm saying its bias that you seem to keep watching them expecting to change your mind or something like that. The reason why people applaud him for his dialogue writing is because quite literally how real it is. It's completely normal and believable conversations the characters have that just feels so casual. No other movies or writers, or directors really do that. there's only a handful that would. The whole intro to reservoir dogs, the whole argument with the group against mr pink/buschemi about tipping. It's a really engaging and just entertaining bickering between them all. The opening scene as well as a few others in Pulp Fiction (royale with cheese)? those scene are world famous strictly because of the relaxed casual normal dialogue You hate him for that aspect while the majority literally applaud him for that. Different tastes but your tastes are in the minority and most love his movies for a reason you may hate. Also i never at any point included objectivity in any of my arguments, nor did i at any point state i was objective right and you objectively wrong.