[QUOTE=ohadje;23896851]But it isn't very relevant. The one that really matters is the Grand Aytollah.[/QUOTE]
He barley interferes with Iranian affairs. The last time he did is when he called for an election recount.
[QUOTE=starpluck;23896886]He barley interferes with Iranian affairs. The last time he did is when he called for an election recount.[/QUOTE]
Well we can't really know what he does, the Iranian government isn't very transparent. But from the way I understand about the Iranian political structure, he's the one that matters when it comes to major decisions.
Iran is simply testing the world's limits, making statements like denying the Holocaust, or doubting the toll of 9/11.
[QUOTE=ohadje;23896851]But it isn't very relevant. The one that really matters is the Grand Aytollah.[/QUOTE]
But it is relevant. Every time Ahmadinejad says something stupid, the US and Israel get pissed and the further we get from peaceful relations.
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;23896882]Even if the troops aren't actively fighting the war in Iraq, we're still going to be stationed there to ensure the stability of the new government. Also, there's no way we're going to let Afghanistan get overrun by the extremists after we're gone, [B]especially after they just found all those mineral resources.[/B][/QUOTE]
I know the US has seemed pretty imperialist, but we're not [I]that bad[/I] with it.
Besides, there was a news article a little while ago about Japan going in for it.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23896936]I know the US has seemed pretty imperialist, but we're not [I]that bad[/I] with it.[/QUOTE]
what
the US is the worst in the world
[QUOTE=starpluck;23896886]He barley interferes with Iranian affairs. The last time he did is when he called for an election recount.[/QUOTE]
Don't underestimate him. I'm sure if something significant comes up, he [I]will[/I] interfere with the politics of the nation.
He is called the "Supreme Leader" after all. Not using one's position doesn't mean he can't, necessarily.
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;23896935]But it is relevant. Every time Ahmadinejad says something stupid, the US and Israel get pissed and the further we get from peaceful relations.[/QUOTE]
Well... it's all pure speculation but I'm sure this can't just happen without the Aytholla's approval.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23896949]what
the US is the worst in the world[/QUOTE]
It's not like we're in the 1700-1800s where everyone invades places for the sole purpose of exploiting its resources.
Besides, this would imply we invaded Afghanistan for the lithium they found there [I]only months ago[/I].
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23896936]I know the US has seemed pretty imperialist, but we're not [I]that bad[/I] with it.
Besides, there was a news article a little while ago about Japan going in for it.[/QUOTE]
Japan getting the resources is fine, as long as they, or anyone else can get to it. But if we let Afghanistan fall apart after we leave, nobody is going to get those resources, which would suck because it would really help to have the lithium there for batteries in electric cars.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;23896717]Israel.[/QUOTE]
North Korea*.
America fixing the mess it made is an obvious moral obligation, but I honestly can't see how it's even possible to make Afghanistan stand a chance w/o US soldiers against the Taliban.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23896997]Besides, this would imply we invaded Afghanistan for the lithium they found there [I]only months ago[/I].[/QUOTE]
I never implied that. We invaded Afghanistan to hunt for Osama Bin Laden, who we're obviously never going to catch, but now that there's a country that needs our protection (which has resources that will make real beneficial changes to our world) we have a concrete reason to stay.
He's asking for trouble! Are we going to rate Iran the new censor land?
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;23897004]Japan getting the resources is fine, as long as they, or anyone else can get to it. But if we let Afghanistan fall apart after we leave, nobody is going to get those resources, which would suck because it would really help to have the lithium there for batteries in electric cars.[/QUOTE]
Why don't we let Afghanistan take care of its own resources? Would that not help their economy, and thus society?
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;23897047]I never implied that. We invaded Afghanistan to hunt for Osama Bin Laden, who we're obviously never going to catch, but now that there's a country that needs our protection (which has resources that will make real beneficial changes to our world) we have a concrete reason to stay.[/QUOTE]
I meant that for JDK, actually, not you.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23896705]the reason for invading iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
the bush administration claimed that saddam had WMDs still and was a threat. obviously it was all a lie to justify the invasion.[/QUOTE]
Iraq did have WMDs
Well he's right about one thing:
[quote]Ahmadinejad said the September 11 attacks with hijacked airliners on New York and Washington D.C. had been trumped up as an excuse for the United States to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.[/quote]
I don't know or care if the 3000 deaths number is accurate or not. It really doesn't matter to me at least. Could be 5 or 20,000. Makes no difference to me.
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[QUOTE=Ridge;23897712]Iraq did have WMDs[/QUOTE]
Source please.
Everything I've seen says they didn't.
1.Israel
2.Iran
3.North Korea
[QUOTE=Ridge;23897712]Iraq did have WMDs[/QUOTE]
not post early 90's
they dismantled their WMD program
[QUOTE=wanksta11;23897807]1.Israel
2.Iran
3.North Korea[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking kidding me Israel and Iran are nowhere near North Korea.
I mean goddamn how out of touch with reality do you have to be to say stupid shit like this.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23897168]Why don't we let Afghanistan take care of its own resources? Would that not help their economy, and thus society?[/QUOTE]
Afghanistan only has the industry to mine things like lithium. To create things like electric car batteries, you need better technology than what is available there, hence why it's more economical for Afghanistan to sell the resources to industrialized nations instead of trying to process them itself.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;23897746]Source please.
Everything I've seen says they didn't.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918[/url]
Let's invade Iran.
That'll teach 'em.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23897933]not post early 90's
they dismantled their WMD program[/QUOTE]
I suppose keeping something as big as WMD secret is unthinkable
[QUOTE=Vinze;23898770]Glenn Beck
:eng101:[/QUOTE]
agreed
at least one of the biggest in the country
Didn't Iraq only spend 1-5% of their spending on actual military before the US invasion, compared to the US spending a hundred times as much?
The man looks like he would be comfortable driving a taxi in a v-neck complete with hawiian shirt and massive gold chain for gods sake
[QUOTE=Ridge;23898349][url]http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918[/url][/QUOTE]
already debunked your argument in the other thread yet you continue to post the same nonsense
fuck off
Fuck you Armoured-dinner-jacket (Seriously, I cant type his name for shit)
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