Chrages against officer for shooting 7 yr old girl in the head during SWAT raid dismissed - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;47054648]if you fuck up and kill an innocent as a policeman, you shouldn't be allowed back on the police force. Fucking period. I don't god damn care if you give them unemployment, but they should be fucking banned from service.[/QUOTE] Memory serving the police don't begin deciding on the possibility of discharge until after any criminal charges are concluded. Although with how few officers the DPD has, and how frequently they're killed, they probably can't afford to get rid of any.

This was hung up for 5 years in court, so I'm not gonna assume the cop just shot her in the head on purpose because he had a murderboner like this thread is implying. Dunno if there's any truth to saying the mother tried to get his gun, it sounds plausible, but I feel like that could have been proven by fingerprinting and etc. So no idea there, though I do not believe the cop just blasted some kid because police state, and there's literally zero evidence supporting that it happened here. The fact that the grandmother was hiding a murderer who had an EXTENSIVE criminal history in her house does lend some credit to her being the type of person to try and grab a cops gun, which I guess could cause a misfire, but there's no proof of that either, so. Otherwise, half of the article isn't even about this case which really makes it seem sort really unworthy of any consideration, it's mostly about the non-issue of "police militarization" when it's hardly related at all to this case. It could be just me, but I think bringing SWAT to a house that has a murderer and a known felon and fugitive is completely justified, there were plenty of people in the house who could have overpowered or fought two officers in standard kit. It then goes on to gush over how this is turning cops into killers or some such shit, which is honestly laughable and not really worth commenting on. Either way, if this is your first time hearing about the case I'd say at least go out of your way to read up on it some, four years is a long time and a lot has come up since the night of the shooting. At least attempt to draw your own conclusions, because this article has a fairly clear bias that I would hope to god most people could recognize.

[QUOTE=Gar92;47052332]No... I'm sorry, but I'll stick with my opinion. Any Country that could drop charges like this in the 21st century has totalitarian state written all over it.[/QUOTE] All Hail King Police Obama [editline]1st February 2015[/editline] /sarcasm

[QUOTE=Passing;47052878]With all this gun violence is its still safe to Holiday there?[/QUOTE] Straya didn't kill you, the US sure as hell won't.

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;47052310]Well with that kind of ignorance you'd fit right in![/QUOTE] Unfortunately, that shit doesn't seem to happen that often in other countries, so joke's on you. [editline]2nd February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Simplemac3;47052479]How could it not be sarcastic? Even the craziest of the crazy wouldn't be able to say "sometimes you just need to kill a baby" with a serious face.[/QUOTE] There could be cases, however they are not tied to murder or manslaughter, that's for sure. [editline]2nd February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Pyroknight;47053876]police threads in a nutshell: internet detectives making baseless assumptions[/QUOTE] however ossumsauce has a point here [quote]If a civilian accidentally shot a little girl in the face, hed go to jail for life. Why is it okay for the police to accidentally shoot a little girl and not face even any kind of punishment?[/quote]

There's so many guys in this thread that has obviously raided a house before, a lot of you think it's easy to distinguish what a child looks like within a second of entering a room.

[QUOTE=meatwad253;47056815]There's so many guys in this thread that has obviously raided a house before, a lot of you think it's easy to distinguish what a child looks like within a second of entering a room.[/QUOTE]Not an argument. If you can't distinguish your target you don't go trigger happy.

[QUOTE=ossumsauce;47053179] Swat raids a house looking for someone who isnt there. [/QUOTE] no lmao [quote]Chauncey Owens, who was the boyfriend of Aiyana's paternal aunt LaKrystal Sanders,[21] was found in the upper floor of the duplex and surrendered without incident.[3] [/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aiyana_Jones[/url] [quote=ossumsauce](while she was in another room, asleep) [/quote] lmao [quote]She said she reached for her granddaughter when the grenade came through the window[/quote] Why would she claim she did this if she was in the other room sleeping? Did just make that up or am I mistaken? [quote=great poster]which caused it to go off and hit her perfectly in the head from an impossible angle, which was later refuted as a lie due to all the evidence supporting to the contrary[/quote] What evidence supports that?

Disgusting, im still waiting for the mass outrage from the community at large over this. But i guess the questionable cases like the Micheal brown shooting are more worth rioting over than the unjustifiable death of a little girl.

Does anyone remember the days where the police just had a baton and a uniform along with a whistle, and weren't dumb as hell?

[QUOTE=puppy156;47057053]Does anyone remember the days where the police just had a baton and a uniform along with a whistle, and weren't dumb as hell?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure I'm within the rules to post a meme if it actually gets the point across and especially in reply to a low effort post so uh: [IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cd/64/24/cd6424365aac612e152fb7be583a9aab.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=andy85258;47057030]Disgusting, im still waiting for the mass outrage from the community at large over this. But i guess the questionable cases like the Micheal brown shooting are more worth rioting over than the unjustifiable death of a little girl.[/QUOTE] Why are you waiting? Start protesting too.

There are a lot of things I don't understand or can't get from this article. Swat teams are supposed to be professionals, and they are supposed to be able to clear these buildings within a matter of minutes or sometimes seconds. What I'd want to know in this case is after they secured the building and all persons in it, did they realize they shot a child and [I]immediately[/I] call for a medevac? Did they do everything within their power to try and save the child, because from this article it certainly doesn't look like they did. The article said the parents were forced to sit in blood for hours, does that mean they just left the body there and didn't even attempt to call for help? Or did these guys just sit there with their thumbs up their ass while the family was screaming at them to help? If there was any delay in attempting to save the child after it was safe to do so, then they should have all been charged and convicted of at least manslaughter. Had this been a situation where a homeowner was defending themselves in a burglary and a bullet they shot happened to over-penetrate through a wall and kill the kid next door, do you think the verdict would be the same? Because from these articles we've been seeing lately, I'm more inclined to believe that the homeowner defending himself would be rotting in jail, while the cop who accidentally kills a child during an offensive search warrant raid would be walking scot-free.

[QUOTE=andy85258;47057030]Disgusting, im still waiting for the mass outrage from the community at large over this. But i guess the questionable cases like the Micheal brown shooting are more worth rioting over than the unjustifiable death of a little girl.[/QUOTE] The nice thing about these things happening in Detroit is the police force (as with the general populace) is predominantly black so the media can't make a race war out of it. Also if you actually looked into it this incident is more than questionable, all the stories conflict with each other and there's little publicly available hard evidence.

[QUOTE=ossumsauce;47052842]The court should be run by the people, for the people, but it's not. Ask anyone if it's ok for a SWAT officer to shoot a 7-year-old that was sleeping on the couch, blame the mother for it and have that immediately dismissed as a lie, and not even get charged for it. They'll say "hell no".[/QUOTE] if our judicial system ran on telling people what the end result was with no larger context then we'd be living in a wasteland.

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;47057170]There are a lot of things I don't understand or can't get from this article. Swat teams are supposed to be professionals, and they are supposed to be able to clear these buildings within a matter of minutes or sometimes seconds. What I'd want to know in this case is after they secured the building and all persons in it, did they realize they shot a child and [I]immediately[/I] call for a medevac? Did they do everything within their power to try and save the child, because from this article it certainly doesn't look like they seem like it. The article said the parents were forced to sit in blood for hours, does that mean they just left the body there and didn't even attempt to call for help? Or did these guys just sit there with their thumbs up their ass while the family was screaming at them to help?[/QUOTE] Yeah uh honestly, I wouldn't trust what this article says. There is literally no way the parents were forced to sit in their kids blood for hours. Its dredging up the recent preceding for an old case to grab on to the coattails of the whole "police v. blacks" thing the media has just recently started to let up on.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;47057284]Yeah uh honestly, I wouldn't trust what this article says. There is literally no way the parents were forced to sit in their kids blood for hours.[/QUOTE] Yeah you're probably right. I didn't think there would really be any reason for that to happen, but I can't really tell anymore because stupid shit seems to happen a lot for no reason.

[QUOTE=Passing;47052878]With all this gun violence is its still safe to Holiday there?[/QUOTE] make sure to pack wading boots so you don't get corpse juice from all the police brutality victims lining the streets. might want a walking stick too so you don't trip while scaling the walls of dead bodies and severed limbs outside of every wal-mart

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47051760]That .1% of the time is when a kid pulls a gun on you.[/QUOTE] Murder, by definition, is a pre-meditated killing and/or killing with malicious intent. It's never OK to murder anyone.

[QUOTE=puppy156;47057053]Does anyone remember the days where the police just had a baton and a uniform along with a whistle, and weren't dumb as hell?[/QUOTE] Nope [t]http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/09/26/springfield_10-84a81a506adc999702732b7bf75d1203fa115350.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=spiritlol;47051993]This is absolutely awful but the angle that this article taking is really upsetting me. The whole "militarization" of the police force is such a stupid idea. Police have been using military equipment since they've been formed, this is nothing new. Call me when a police force gets an artillery piece, then you can bring up militarization. By placing all the blame on the militarization you're externalizing it from the police and onto their equipment. The increase of Swat activities, especially for search warrants, is not militarization, it's misuse of power and poor decision making. If you have shit cops with military equipment they'll still be shit cops if you take it away. Also, referring to a flashbang as a "war-device" is such fear-mongering holy shit, it's one of the most effective non-lethal devices ever created.[/QUOTE] Under the circumstances, it would be easy to be bias against someone who has effectively just gotten away after shooting a 7 year old child dead. These reports may include some hyperbole, but with reports of police shootings coming in so quickly, maybe the extra detail isn't as far away from truth as we think.

[QUOTE=puppy156;47057053]Does anyone remember the days where the police just had a baton and a uniform along with a whistle, and weren't dumb as hell?[/QUOTE] No and no one you know does ether.

[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;47051672]'Militarized' police, a.k.a. the purpose of SWAT. They've had this kinda stuff since forever. However, this is disgusting. [B]Murdering[/B] children is almost never okay.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Simplemac3;47051713]You know, almost. That .1% of the time where you just need to[B] murder [/B]a child.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Disgruntled;47051888]Are you a [B]murderer[/B]? Want to get away with it? Join the police force![/QUOTE] These three posts all share one thing: Murder. All three of these posters should be ashamed that they would use that in this context because nothing in this case is murder. Dont go slinging charges around when you dont know what constitutes them. And everyone seems to forget that the charges may have been dropped in criminal court, but I am [I]sure[/I] that the family will come after him in civil court. This stuff "doesnt keep happening" as if it hasnt been before. The internet and media allows for more information to be shared than ever before. Your perception of corrupted/abusive/tyrannical cops is thousands of times higher than what the actual figure may be. If you dont want to live in the US because of this then you would have never made it to begin with. You want unarmed police? Stay in the UK and dont DARE complain about the US. About had a brain aneurysm reading some of these comments.