Zimmerman trial: Neighbor testifies Trayvon Martin was straddling Zimmerman moments before fatal gun - Polidicks

Well the judge just announced that the jury can add Manslaughter to the list of things they will be deliberating about. In my opinion they are just trying to get him with something in order to placate the people

[url]http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/[/url] Closing arguments right now.

that prosecutor is so bad man, they got massacred

[QUOTE=Take yo;41412336]that prosecutor is so bad man, they got massacred[/QUOTE] He is actually bringing up the completely relevant fact that Zimmerman saw Martin as a criminal when he hadn't done anything illegal. If what he said about the police chief is actually true, that's pretty damning. [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] Whether or not that makes him guilty of second degree murder is another matter.

Except ZM didn't do anything other than keep an eye on him? [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] "saw Martin as a criminal" oh wow you got me man! ZM should go to hell!

This prosecutor is a moron. Profiled incorrectly? The only reason Trayvon Martin was going to that home on that day was because he was suspended from school due to an arrest diversion program, so yeah if Trayvon did not get privileges due to his race (funny how that works ain't it?) he would have been prosecuted for burglary or for possibly being a fence. Zimmerman correctly assumed he was a potential criminal. Never mind the other black teen males who had burgled the area recently. Ironic that the home Trayvon was going to was being protected by Zimmerman, bet the prosecution leaves that out. Why did he get out if he thought Trayvon was a threat? He was protecting his neighborhood. Why did he not identify as neighborhood watch? Why did Trayvon not say he was visiting his step mother? O'Mara is going to rip this apart, rightfully since the argument against Zimmerman is mostly emotion.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41412400]He is actually bringing up the completely relevant fact that Zimmerman saw Martin as a criminal when he hadn't done anything illegal. If what he said about the police chief is actually true, that's pretty damning. [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] Whether or not that makes him guilty of second degree murder is another matter.[/QUOTE] I thought we'd been over why Zimmerman's suspicions were reasonable? Shady figure, wandering about aimlessly in the rain, after a string of burglaries, him being a neighbourhood watch officer, etc.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41412562]I thought we'd been over why Zimmerman's suspicions were reasonable? Shady figure, wandering about aimlessly in the rain, after a string of burglaries, him being a neighbourhood watch officer, etc.[/QUOTE] Don't bother, he just refuses any possibilities backed up by evidence and just says "I look around at houses too when I'm outside!"

[QUOTE=Take yo;41412491]Except ZM didn't do anything other than keep an eye on him? [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] "saw Martin as a criminal" oh wow you got me man! ZM should go to hell![/QUOTE] Why did he need to keep an eye on him? Why did he have to leave his truck? To give the police his location? He had to leave his truck to do that? The police chief himself said that he would have just assumed Martin had lived in the area, which surprisingly turned out to be true. Does a chief of police suddenly know less about suspicious behavior than a neighborhood watch dude who has taken some law enforcement schooling? These questions and the tactic the prosecution is using is trying to portray Zimmerman as an overzealous wannabe cop. I don't think he was out that night to kill Martin, or anyone. I don't even think he was really looking forward to getting into a confrontation. But he did see suspicious behavior where there really wasn't any, and he made sure to keep track of Martin when no tracking was necessary. Observe and report is basic neighborhood watch stuff. He got the first two right, damn shame he felt like being the deputy though. That said, if Martin did swing first and get Zimmerman to the ground, I don't think it's even remotely possible to call what Zimmerman did second-degree murder. Following someone isn't illegal, so I don't know what sort of legal precedent the prosecution is trying to set by suggesting that Martin attacking Zimmerman unprovoked, if that is indeed what is happening. Maybe they are setting up a possible manslaughter trial/verdict?

hey can someone PM me when the defense comes on?

[QUOTE=benwaddi;41412546]Zimmerman correctly assumed he was a potential criminal.[/QUOTE] He hadn't committed a crime though. This is an objectively false statement. For someone who doesn't have a dog in this race you sure are cheering one on. [QUOTE=benwaddi;41412546]Why did he get out if he thought Trayvon was a threat? He was protecting his neighborhood[/QUOTE] From what? Some kid walking back to his house? Oh wait he had a hoodie, it was raining, and he wasn't going fast enough for Zimmerman. Better get out of my truck and make sure he doesn't rob any houses. [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41412562]I thought we'd been over why Zimmerman's suspicions were reasonable? Shady figure, wandering about aimlessly in the rain, after a string of burglaries, him being a neighbourhood watch officer, etc.[/QUOTE] Shady figure? To whom? Because he was wearing a hoodie? Yeah, "wandering about aimlessly in the rain", don't recall that being a crime. String of burglaries? Is there any suspicion that Martin may have been involved in those? If yes, call the cops and stay in your truck. If no, why are you watching him? What does him being a neighborhood watch officer have to do with not having good judgement? It's not like you get put in that position by the homeowners association, grab your gun, and are suddenly an expert at discerning criminal behavior. All this plus the fact that apparently an investigator described Zimmerman's description of Martin as not suspicious for the crime means no, "we" have not been over why his suspicions were reasonable at all. Just a lot of people on the internet with really low tolerance for "suspicious behavior" who hopefully aren't in a position of power or god forbid actually own guns.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41412862]Shady figure? To whom? Because he was wearing a hoodie? Yeah, "wandering about aimlessly in the rain", don't recall that being a crime. String of burglaries? Is there any suspicion that Martin may have been involved in those? If yes, call the cops and stay in your truck. If no, why are you watching him? What does him being a neighborhood watch officer have to do with not having good judgement? It's not like you get put in that position by the homeowners association, grab your gun, and are suddenly an expert at discerning criminal behavior. [/QUOTE] He was suspicious to Zimmerman, obviously. He was shady because it was raining and he was meandering. In the dead of night. People tend to be moving toward a destination with some degree of determination when it's both dark and raining. Trayvon was failing to do either of those and paying a lot of attention to the houses he's passing, shortly after a string of burglaries in the area. That's a recipe for "looking shady", especially when your job is to look out for shady behaviour. I'm not arguing that what Zimmerman did was sensible, but that doesn't change the fact that his actions are understandable.

"I've never seen a suspicious person therefore none exist." [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;41412862]He hadn't committed a crime though. This is an objectively false statement. For someone who doesn't have a dog in this race you sure are cheering one on. From what? Some kid walking back to his house? Oh wait he had a hoodie, it was raining, and he wasn't going fast enough for Zimmerman. Better get out of my truck and make sure he doesn't rob any houses. Shady figure? To whom? Because he was wearing a hoodie? Yeah, "wandering about aimlessly in the rain", don't recall that being a crime. String of burglaries? Is there any suspicion that Martin may have been involved in those? If yes, call the cops and stay in your truck. If no, why are you watching him? What does him being a neighborhood watch officer have to do with not having good judgement? It's not like you get put in that position by the homeowners association, grab your gun, and are suddenly an expert at discerning criminal behavior. All this plus the fact that apparently an investigator described Zimmerman's description of Martin as not suspicious for the crime means no, "we" have not been over why his suspicions were reasonable at all. Just a lot of people on the internet with really low tolerance for "suspicious behavior" who hopefully aren't in a position of power or god forbid actually own guns.[/QUOTE] didn't read at all but even if Zimmerman simply identified him as a potential suspect, he didn't start the altercation as evidence proves [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] like you keep saying "It's not illegal to walk around" yeah well, it's not illegal to keep an eye on someone in your neighborhood [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] I like how Raidyr can't point out a single fact and just says what he wants to believe. "Zimmerman is just paranoid and so are his supporters" Or maybe we're looking at the evidence and not assuming.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41412862]He hadn't committed a crime though. This is an objectively false statement. From what? Some kid walking back to his house? Oh wait he had a hoodie, it was raining, and he wasn't going fast enough for Zimmerman. Better get out of my truck and make sure he doesn't rob any houses. Shady figure? To whom? Because he was wearing a hoodie? Yeah, "wandering about aimlessly in the rain", don't recall that being a crime. String of burglaries? Is there any suspicion that Martin may have been involved in those? If yes, call the cops and stay in your truck. If no, why are you watching him? What does him being a neighborhood watch officer have to do with not having good judgement? It's not like you get put in that position by the homeowners association, grab your gun, and are suddenly an expert at discerning criminal behavior. All this plus the fact that apparently an investigator described Zimmerman's description of Martin as not suspicious for the crime means no, "we" have not been over why his suspicions were reasonable at all. Just a lot of people on the internet with really low tolerance for "suspicious behavior" who hopefully aren't in a position of power or god forbid actually own guns.[/QUOTE] You do not have to see someone commit a crime to assume they may be a criminal, actions and demeanor help make that profiling easier. Should he have waited till he broke into a home? To Zimmerman he may have been one of the burglars who got away previously (which required a homeowner to wield rusty scissors to defend herself) due to what he was wearing and how he was acting. The other robberies were committed by people walking close to buildings, just like Trayvon. So please where was Trayvon eliminating any potential suspicion? Punching a guy sure helps that case. So yeah Trayvon [I]should[/I] have been waiting on a court case for handling stolen goods/burglary, the same thing Zimmerman thought he may have been doing. Also following someone is not illegal so Zimmerman broke no laws until he pulled the trigger and even then that is dependent on a host of other factors that are unproved. All attacks on Zimmerman for following Trayvon are moronic since if Trayvon had broke into a home (potential burglar) and got startled by a occupant (same as with Zimmerman) bashed their head into the floor and killed them (happened with Zimmerman) everyone would be crying about how Zimmerman should have been protecting his neighborhood, you know like neighborhood watch is supposed to do. This all boils down to profiling, does a false profiling hurt people more than it helps? Argument for another day but if Trayvon had stood still and even been arrested he would have been let off right? based on the lack of a crime, so how does him submitting to Zimmerman's instructions hurt anyone? Now if Zimmerman had ignored him and he had committed a crime there is now a victim.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41412964]He was suspicious to Zimmerman, obviously. He was shady because it was raining and he was meandering. In the dead of night. People tend to be moving toward a destination with some degree of determination when it's both dark and raining. Trayvon was failing to do either of those and paying a lot of attention to the houses he's passing, shortly after a string of burglaries in the area. That's a recipe for "looking shady", especially when your job is to look out for shady behaviour.[/QUOTE] Again, "meandering" in the rain isn't illegal, nor is it particularly shady. Especially when you consider the fact that evening rains (dead of night? it was 7:00pm) are a common occurrence in Florida during the summer. Paying a lot of attention to the houses? What does that even mean? Was he looking at them intensely or something? How close was Zimmerman even to Martin at this time to so vehemently feel like he was about to rob one of them that he would get out of his truck to make sure he didn't "get away"? [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41412964]I'm not arguing that what Zimmerman did was sensible, but that doesn't change the fact that his actions are understandable.[/QUOTE] These seems like mutually exclusive statements. I don't think what Zimmerman did was sensible or understandable. If I saw what he saw I'd think "Oh look its someone walking through the neighborhood". Additional factors like it being night time and raining should be completely irrelevant from Martin's supposed guilt. Really, can't we just agree that he shouldn't have gotten out of his truck? Just make the call from in your truck and keep your distance. Observe and report. If he had called the police, waited for them to shown up, and given them a description they could have investigated it. But nope, Zimmerman didn't want this fucking asshole punk to get away, because they always get away, and goddamnit not this time, not in my neighborhood. Even if he hypothetically was watching a criminal staking out a possible residence to burglarize he shouldn't have gotten out of his truck and tracked the burglar down. What if the burglar was armed? Neighborhood Watch isn't the fucking executive arm of the law, that is the police. Give them a description when they show up. Did the burglar get away with some peoples shit? That really sucks, but now you have a description so you atleast have something to work off of. A missing TV and Xbox is better than a dead person because someone wanted to play cowboy. Again, repeating it for the fourth or fifth time in this thread because people like take yo are chronically incapable of basic reading skills: [B]I do not think George Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder, and from almost all eyewitness and expert testimony it seems like Zimmerman had the right to self defense as someone was straddling him and punching him in the face and knocking his head to the concrete.[/B] Even if Zimmerman made the dumb move of tracking Martin that doesn't give Martin the right to swing at him or knock him to the ground. There was the interesting development that Sega Saturn commented on above about the possibility that Martin stopped hitting Zimmerman after a bit that may qualify as retreating under Florida self defense law but it seems a bit flimsy when it talks about the specifics of how Zimmerman reached for his gun.

The prosecutor hasn't impressed me at all so far. He hasn't really tied his case together. For instance, he's stressed that Zimmerman is a wannabe cop. So what? What the jury needs to hear is what bits of evidence prove a murder was committed. The wannabe cop thing at best establishes why Zimmerman was following him, but Zimmerman is not on trial for following him. I suppose we can infer that the prosecutor isn't tying it all together because there's nothing to tie. Just keep asking "Why isn't there blood on..." or "Why did he chase after..." and "He wanted to be a cop..." and hope the jury is somehow convinced any of those questions are evidence of something. edit: about profiling, I think it's fine for a private citizen to do it. That's because I, a private citizen, have no more power than you, the person I'm profiling. The police is a different story. They wield official, legal power. That's why I think it's wrong for the police to profile. It denies everyone equal protection under the law.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41413326]Again, "meandering" in the rain isn't illegal, nor is it particularly shady. Especially when you consider the fact that evening rains (dead of night? it was 7:00pm) are a common occurrence in Florida during the summer. Paying a lot of attention to the houses? What does that even mean? Was he looking at them intensely or something? How close was Zimmerman even to Martin at this time to so vehemently feel like he was about to rob one of them that he would get out of his truck to make sure he didn't "get away"? These seems like mutually exclusive statements. I don't think what Zimmerman did was sensible or understandable. If I saw what he saw I'd think "Oh look its someone walking through the neighborhood". Additional factors like it being night time and raining should be completely irrelevant from Martin's supposed guilt. Really, can't we just agree that he shouldn't have gotten out of his truck? Just make the call from in your truck and keep your distance. Observe and report. If he had called the police, waited for them to shown up, and given them a description they could have investigated it. But nope, Zimmerman didn't want this fucking asshole punk to get away, because they always get away, and goddamnit not this time, not in my neighborhood. Even if he hypothetically was watching a criminal staking out a possible residence to burglarize he shouldn't have gotten out of his truck and tracked the burglar down. What if the burglar was armed? Neighborhood Watch isn't the fucking executive arm of the law, that is the police. Give them a description when they show up. Did the burglar get away with some peoples shit? That really sucks, but now you have a description so you atleast have something to work off of. A missing TV and Xbox is better than a dead person because someone wanted to play cowboy. Again, repeating it for the fourth or fifth time in this thread because people like take yo are chronically incapable of basic reading skills: [B]I do not think George Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder, and from almost all eyewitness and expert testimony it seems like Zimmerman had the right to self defense as someone was straddling him and punching him in the face and knocking his head to the concrete.[/B] Even if Zimmerman made the dumb move of tracking Martin that doesn't give Martin the right to swing at him or knock him to the ground. There was the interesting development that Sega Saturn commented on above about the possibility that Martin stopped hitting Zimmerman after a bit that may qualify as retreating under Florida self defense law but it seems a bit flimsy when it talks about the specifics of how Zimmerman reached for his gun.[/QUOTE] So where's the evidence that Zimmerman was just playing cowboy and a wanna be cop? Can you also point out the law that says you can't follow someone?

Sounds like the legal analyst on wftv is really unimpressed with the prosecutions closing statement. Mostly for bringing more possibilities and not proving any of them and one juror is not making eye contact with any of the prosecution. I think he is going to bring the fucking tree up again, he already brought the heart ripped out point.

[QUOTE=benwaddi;41413487]Sounds like the legal analyst on wftv is really unimpressed with the prosecutions closing statement. Mostly for bringing more possibilities and not proving any of them and one juror is not making eye contact with any of the prosecution. I think he is going to bring the fucking tree up again, he already brought the heart ripped out point.[/QUOTE] He also brought up that Juror b29 won't even make eye contact with Bernie De La Rionda, I hope the jury deliberation takes only half an hour.

[QUOTE=Take yo;41412997] didn't read at all [/QUOTE] Why even join a message board if you aren't going to read posts. No wonder you have gotten every single one of your replies wrong. [QUOTE=benwaddi;41413312]You do not have to see someone commit a crime to assume they may be a criminal, actions and demeanor help make that profiling easier. Should he have waited till he broke into a home? To Zimmerman he may have been one of the burglars who got away previously (which required a homeowner to wield rusty scissors to defend herself) due to what he was wearing and how he was acting. The other robberies were committed by people walking close to buildings, just like Trayvon. So please where was Trayvon eliminating any potential suspicion? Punching a guy sure helps that case.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware it was the responsibility of the person being incorrectly profiled (source: police investigator) to eliminate their own suspicion. Maybe the problem was Zimmerman's standards for suspicion and his overzealous attitude towards criminals. And you say the other robberies were committed by people walking close to buildings? Well I'd hope so, it's damn well hard to rob a house without being near it, last I checked. [QUOTE=benwaddi;41413312]So yeah Trayvon [I]should[/I] have been waiting on a court case for handling stolen goods/burglary, the same thing Zimmerman thought he may have been doing. Also following someone is not illegal so Zimmerman broke no laws until he pulled the trigger and even then that is dependent on a host of other factors that are unproved.[/QUOTE] The only thing I'm pulling up on stolen goods is jewelery that police found on him but no evidence that he actually stole them. Mind sourcing that? Hypothetical: If it is true, it's absolutely irrelevant. Namely because he wasn't actually found guilty of the crime. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz. But also because Zimmerman had no idea the circumstances of how that jewelry ended up in Martins possession. All of his standards for suspicion were given by him and I've run through the reasons why they are insufficient. The fact of the matter is that Martin didn't commit a crime that night until obviously he assaulted Zimmerman. [QUOTE=benwaddi;41413312]All attacks on Zimmerman for following Trayvon are moronic since if Trayvon had broke into a home (potential burglar) and got startled by a occupant (same as with Zimmerman) bashed their head into the floor and killed them (happened with Zimmerman) everyone would be crying about how Zimmerman should have been protecting his neighborhood, you know like neighborhood watch is supposed to do. This all boils down to profiling, does a false profiling hurt people more than it helps? Argument for another day but if Trayvon had stood still and even been arrested he would have been let off right? based on the lack of a crime, so how does him submitting to Zimmerman's instructions hurt anyone? Now if Zimmerman had ignored him and he had committed a crime there is now a victim.[/QUOTE] Everyone who would blame Zimmerman is an idiot and should be dismissed as such because they don't know how neighborhood watch works. I've never heard of a home invasion turned murder case where the defended was the neighborhood watch officer that night. But I disagree with your scenario. The most preferred one would have been if Zimmerman had just called the cops from his truck, given Martins description and location, and continue living his life and letting Martin live his. I don't think Martin should have attacked Zimmerman for following him, and I don't think Zimmerman is guilty of murder, I'm just saying he made the wrong move that night, and considering one person is dead and another person has people itching for his blood, I find it ridiculous that anyone wants to argue that he made all the right moves that night.

Okay dude seriously stop talking about Skittles. "Skittles... that he didn't even steal!"

Someone I know tried turning the case into a gun debate lol

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41413660] [b]Maybe[/b] the problem was Zimmerman's standards for suspicion and his overzealous attitude towards criminals. And you say the other robberies were committed by people walking close to buildings? Well I'd hope so, it's damn well hard to rob a house without being near it, last I checked. [/QUOTE] Maybe? What are you even doing? You're just wanting to believe something without anything backing it up. You refuse the possibility of someone looking suspicious despite there being burglaries around the area but believe someone is an overzealous paranoid wanna be cop because MAYBE. [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] Assumption after assumption without providing any answers.

[QUOTE=Take yo;41413802]Maybe? What are you even doing? You're just wanting to believe something without anything backing it up. You refuse the possibility of someone looking suspicious despite there being burglaries around the area but believe someone is an overzealous paranoid wanna be cop because MAYBE.[/QUOTE] You're arguing semantics. Don't try to paint out a rhetorical statement as speculation.

[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;41413860]You're arguing semantics. Don't try to paint out a rhetorical statement as speculation.[/QUOTE] That sums up his arguments though. Maybe. You guys don't answer any questions at all. How do you know Zimmerman was just an overzealous wanna be cop? [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] Thought so. [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] This might be difficulty to understand, but first you have to look at evidence then work from that. Not just assume something because you want it to be true.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;41413660] Good post[/QUOTE] Zimmerman absolutely should have done things differently, but the profiling is something he did because of the former crimes and most importantly the lack of police help in recent months. I was more arguing his frame of mind as to why he did things, to an outsider his actions do seem odd. Sources on stolen goods. [url]http://patdollard.com/2013/06/trayvon-martins-involvement-in-local-burglaries-covered-up-by-media-school-police/[/url] (excuse the source but he does reference the correct documents) [url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/150440037/Charles-Hurley-M-DSPD-Police-Chief[/url] (The report and interview of the officer about the diversion program) Some shady shit going on in Sanford at a political level from race privilege to protecting possibly violent protesters to the New Black Panthers apparently busing people in for riots. EDIT: Bout the sixth time the prosecutor has called Trayvon a man then quickly said "teenager...boy"

In the same manner that people keep referring to Martin as a wannabe thug. Zimmerman was a private security guard, and later volunteered to serve as a neighborhood watchman. The general purpose of neighborhood watch is to observe and report, but Zimmerman went above and beyond that by getting out of his car and following someone on foot. He was also carrying a firearm, despite the fact that citizens-arrest laws don't apply for cases of lethal force. That means he was purposefully putting himself in danger in situations where the use of his firearm for the purpose of his job was not permitted. A reasonable person wouldn't have done that.

The sources are dubious but the policy of the school superintendent might explain why Martin wasn't charged in any of the offenses (graffiti, possible burglary, drugs). I would not be against an investigation into that to make sure nothing shady is going on but I have to be honest and admit that I am in the dark when it comes the the legal jurisdiction of school police forces. I didn't know they could have their own PD. [editline]11th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sega Saturn;41414336]In the same manner that people keep referring to Martin as a wannabe thug. Zimmerman was a private security guard, and later volunteered to serve as a neighborhood watchman. The general purpose of neighborhood watch is to observe and report, but Zimmerman went above and beyond that by getting out of his car and following someone on foot. He was also carrying a firearm, despite the fact that citizens-arrest laws don't apply for cases of lethal force. That means he was purposefully putting himself in danger in situations where the use of his firearm for the purpose of his job was not permitted. A reasonable person wouldn't have done that.[/QUOTE] Him having a gun is a sticking point though because in Florida it's entirely legal to carry with a permit, which he had on him the night of the shooting. Being a part of the neighborhood watch doesn't make your right to own a gun any less legitimate, though I agree getting out of the car was the bad move. As I said above, if Martin had been a burglar, what if he was armed? The tables could have quickly turned. Zimmerman himself admits to getting ambushed by him.

[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;41414336]In the same manner that people keep referring to Martin as a wannabe thug. Zimmerman was a private security guard, and later volunteered to serve as a neighborhood watchman. The general purpose of neighborhood watch is to observe and report, but Zimmerman went above and beyond that by getting out of his car and following someone on foot. He was also carrying a firearm, despite the fact that citizens-arrest laws don't apply for cases of lethal force. That means he was purposefully putting himself in danger in situations where the use of his firearm for the purpose of his job was not permitted. A reasonable person wouldn't have done that.[/QUOTE] Or he got off his car to check the street name while Trayvon cut through a neighborhood. Which is where he died, on someone's lawn behind a house out of view from the street. If Zimmerman did think him a burglar, simply a presence can stop a burglary because a witness can bring them down. You don't need force to stop a burglary, if someone is around they don't go for it.

[QUOTE=Take yo;41414491]Or he got off his car to check the street name while Trayvon cut through a neighborhood. Which is where he died, on someone's lawn behind a house out of view from the street. If Zimmerman did think him a burglar, simply a presence can stop a burglary because a witness can bring them down. You don't need force to stop a burglary, if someone is around they don't go for it.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but I see a black kid in a hoodie, I get all horribly sure a burglary is about to go down riiiiiight?