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Christmas is a capitalist holiday that promotes spending money. We should ALL celebrate it. It helps the economy
[QUOTE=Kyle902;19155024]Christmas was a Pagan holiday. Are you honestly trying to say that thousands of historians are wrong?[/QUOTE] I misread the point before. It's based on pagan traditions, but paganism is not Christianity at all. I am sure I don't need to explain its definition. [editline]03:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yuki;19155045]Please read what you quote before you try and make a point.[/QUOTE] You as well. Read my bolded point, and you say I'm wrong why?
[QUOTE=Kyle902;19155024]Christmas was a Pagan holiday. Are you honestly trying to say that thousands of historians are wrong?[/QUOTE] Christ mass Or am I missing something?
Right, massing. It's a Christian term.
[QUOTE=Vvon;19155058]That way i see it is that it really doesn't matter what it was adapted from, whatever religion you are apart of is what it means to you. So if any of you are defending the Roman celebration of the winter solstice you better damn well be a Roman pagan mofo.[/QUOTE] I'm defending against people claiming Christmas is only about Christ and his birth, even though [quote] and may have initially been chosen to correspond with either the day exactly [u]nine months after some early Christians believed Jesus had been conceived[/u][/quote] Christmas isn't JUST about Christ. It's probably not even his original birth date (more accurately the Celebration of the Winter Solstice).
[QUOTE=faze;19152611]The Bible doesn't say that...[/QUOTE] Of course it doesn't, that's just a metaphor :rolleyes:
This thread is all just a bunch of pointless quibbling anyway.
[QUOTE=faze;19155157]Right, massing. It's a Christian term.[/QUOTE] It is Christmas to you, a Christian, the celebration of the birth of Jesus. To those that still follow the Roman Gods, if there are any left, it is the celebration of the winter solstice. You see... you think of it one way because you are what you are, others because they are talking about history, and others again because it is their religion. This whole thread is backasswards because no one knows what the other is saying, and you are partly to blame.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;19149687]Yule.[/QUOTE] The Bible is just a rip-off of the Bodhisavatta :rolleye:
I wasn't expecting this news to be so... debatable :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;19155443]I wasn't expecting this news to be so... debatable :ohdear:[/QUOTE] They decided to argue about how christmas is, or is not, a chrstian holiday for three pages. Then faze finally read the posts. Can't wait for my next bad reading rating.
You're confused, Faze, so I'll try to make it clear to you. Christmas is indeed a christian holiday put on the day of the celebration of the winter solstice celebrated by pagans way before christianity even existed. Up until very recently it was believed to be the date of Jesus's birth, and it wasn't until scientists discovered inconsistencies between the bible's claims and scientific data for that period that showed that he couldn't possibly have been born on that date based on the position of the northern star. So the holiday is based on something that either didn't happen at all, or at the very least didn't happen at that time, which just makes the holiday rip-off even more obvious. I mean, before you had an excuse to put christmas on that date, now you have nothing. The taking over of a date to suit your own needs is exactly what happened to easter too, and based on the truthfulness of the bible, I'd say there's a pretty damn good chance that Jesus, if he even existed, wasn't even crucified on easter. It's quite ingenius actually, because people like you won't know what was before the current holiday so it'll seem like they invented it.
It's a good thing we have the constitution to protect us from the tyranny of decorative lights vaguely shaped like angels.
You can cry about separation of church and state, but this is just plain retarded. [b]Clarification:[/b] I meant, separation of church and state is overall a good thing, but this just goes way too far.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;19149841][b]Christ[/b]mas [b]Christ[/b] mass Did you seriously never notice that before?[/QUOTE] That doesn't make sense because Christ was not born in december. Thus, it's ridiculous to have a holiday on that date to celebrate his birth, and therefor it makes no sense.
Why can't people just tolerate other religions? Oh, and Christmas supposedly isn't the actual birth day of Jesus. They think he was born sometime in July or June, not in December. We just celebrate it in December because they converted a Pagan holiday to a Christian holiday, to make it easier to convert Pagans to Christianity.
[QUOTE=nukehummer;19158590]Oh, and Christmas supposedly isn't the actual birth day of Jesus. They think he was born sometime in July or June, not in December. We just celebrate it in December because they converted a Pagan holiday to a Christian holiday, to make it easier to convert Pagans to Christianity.[/QUOTE] Really? I didn't know that. I wish someone in this thread had mentioned that before, that's really interesting information.
Atheists can legally trash churches and Nativity celebrations (happened last year), but Christians can't show religious symbols because "it violates the constitution"? America's society is worse than I thought.
[QUOTE=cheeseman52;19151906]I agree with the above user for the most part. Yes we should have seperation in that the government shouldn't adopt a religion. They also shouldn't prohibit people from practicing religious customs. Stars ain't going to make the world blow up.[/QUOTE] My religious customs include chopping up the president every saturday for meal
[QUOTE=faze;19149703]I'm going to stop now, and not humor your... theory. I'll say one last thing though, [B]Christ[/B]mas. See what I did there?[/QUOTE]Hey I can play that game too! Hallo[B]WEEN[/B] and if you add an IE you get WEENIE. Halloween is about weenies! [b]EAST[/b]er obviously the bunny rabbit comes from the east! Yeah, it's equally as dumb.
[url]http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusMithra.html[/url] [url]http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/mithra.html[/url] [editline]11:15PM[/editline] Oh hai
I'll take a break from Facepunch if this gets me banned, but this needs to be said. Faze, I agree with your opening statement "But if he doesn't like it, he should get over himself. Just like another old person with nothing to do but complain about the stupidest things." However, your way of arguing with T-Minus10 is making me rage and probably the majority of people reading this thread. Sometimes you come to a milestone in your life where you need to step back and just say "It's not worth it. I'm more mature than this." Obviously you haven't gotten to that point but now would be a good time to start, being as it is the start of a new year; maybe you can make it your new goal. This is the extent of my politeness and because I just got back from a night of District 9 and Jack Daniels with a friend who had some oxycodine because of having her teeth pulled out. So shut the fuck up faggot and sit your ass down like the rest of us, we are tired of your bullshit responses to a battle that is already fucking lost. We wanted to just read this fucking thread and have a damn conversation about it because it's fucking two days till Christmas and it was interesting. But you couldn't let the fucking argument go you fucking prick, no, you had to be the center of attention because the bitch of a mother that brought you into this world didn't give two shits about you and winged you the day you came out of her crusty vagina. And I don't blame her. I don't blame your mother at all, you were probably arguing that she didn't shove her tits down your throat and ooze out that vile liquid down into your mouth at every moment you had a tinge of dryness inside your cheek. I should blame your dad for not beating you as a kid, and if he did he sure did a piss poor fucking job at it, should of grabbed the fucking frying pan instead of the belt he uses to choke himself with when he masturbates. Take that fucking keyboard of yours and bend over while your dad properly positions himself behind you and inserts it into your ass. Merry fucking Christmas asshole.
[QUOTE=faze;19149703]I'm going to stop now, and not humor your... theory. I'll say one last thing though, [B]Christ[/B]mas. See what I did there?[/QUOTE] It was originally [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_Natalis_Solis_Invicti[/url] A Roman "Pagan" Holiday Dedicated to many Sun gods, Catholic church renamed it to christmas and changed the focus [editline]06:25PM[/editline] Shit wrong holiday?
[QUOTE=Mcvain;19160429]I'll take a break from Facepunch if this gets me banned, but this needs to be said. Faze, I agree with your opening statement "But if he doesn't like it, he should get over himself. Just like another old person with nothing to do but complain about the stupidest things." However, your way of arguing with T-Minus10 is making me rage and probably the majority of people reading this thread. Sometimes you come to a milestone in your life where you need to step back and just say "It's not worth it. I'm more mature than this." Obviously you haven't gotten to that point but now would be a good time to start, being as it is the start of a new year; maybe you can make it your new goal. This is the extent of my politeness and because I just got back from a night of District 9 and Jack Daniels with a friend who had some oxycodine because of having her teeth pulled out. So shut the fuck up faggot and sit your ass down like the rest of us, we are tired of your bullshit responses to a battle that is already fucking lost. We wanted to just read this fucking thread and have a damn conversation about it because it's fucking two days till Christmas and it was interesting. But you couldn't let the fucking argument go you fucking prick, no, you had to be the center of attention because the bitch of a mother that brought you into this world didn't give two shits about you and winged you the day you came out of her crusty vagina. And I don't blame her. I don't blame your mother at all, you were probably arguing that she didn't shove her tits down your throat and ooze out that vile liquid down into your mouth at every moment you had a tinge of dryness inside your cheek. I should blame your dad for not beating you as a kid, and if he did he sure did a piss poor fucking job at it, should of grabbed the fucking frying pan instead of the belt he uses to choke himself with when he masturbates. Take that fucking keyboard of yours and bend over while your dad properly positions himself behind you and inserts it into your ass. Merry fucking Christmas asshole.[/QUOTE] This man is a martyr :jihad:
[QUOTE=Mcvain;19160429]I'll take a break from Facepunch if this gets me banned, but this needs to be said. Faze, I agree with your opening statement "But if he doesn't like it, he should get over himself. Just like another old person with nothing to do but complain about the stupidest things." However, your way of arguing with T-Minus10 is making me rage and probably the majority of people reading this thread. Sometimes you come to a milestone in your life where you need to step back and just say "It's not worth it. I'm more mature than this." Obviously you haven't gotten to that point but now would be a good time to start, being as it is the start of a new year; maybe you can make it your new goal. This is the extent of my politeness and because I just got back from a night of District 9 and Jack Daniels with a friend who had some oxycodine because of having her teeth pulled out. So shut the fuck up faggot and sit your ass down like the rest of us, we are tired of your bullshit responses to a battle that is already fucking lost. We wanted to just read this fucking thread and have a damn conversation about it because it's fucking two days till Christmas and it was interesting. But you couldn't let the fucking argument go you fucking prick, no, you had to be the center of attention because the bitch of a mother that brought you into this world didn't give two shits about you and winged you the day you came out of her crusty vagina. And I don't blame her. I don't blame your mother at all, you were probably arguing that she didn't shove her tits down your throat and ooze out that vile liquid down into your mouth at every moment you had a tinge of dryness inside your cheek. I should blame your dad for not beating you as a kid, and if he did he sure did a piss poor fucking job at it, should of grabbed the fucking frying pan instead of the belt he uses to choke himself with when he masturbates. Take that fucking keyboard of yours and bend over while your dad properly positions himself behind you and inserts it into your ass. Merry fucking Christmas asshole.[/QUOTE] paragraphs man
I think a lot of people got Christmas wrong, It could be whatever they fucking want it to be.
[QUOTE=smurfy;19150064]Christmas is barely even religious anymore.[/QUOTE]This.
this man makes atheists look like horrible people :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Géza!;19155702]You can cry about separation of church and state, but this is just plain retarded.[/QUOTE] They don't have any place in a government building. Just like there's no place for human rights abuses in government/schools. And are you guys still saying the pagans stole xmas and the xians were the first to have it because it's christ mass or some shit? [editline]12:38AM[/editline] Xmas has lost all meaning by now, anyway.
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;19165670]They don't have any place in a government building. Just like there's no place for human rights abuses in government/schools. And are you guys still saying the pagans stole xmas and the xians were the first to have it because it's christ mass or some shit? [editline]12:38AM[/editline] Xmas has lost all meaning by now, anyway.[/QUOTE] But the elementary school close to where I live can still tell little kids that not driving a hybrid is close to planetary murder?
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