• These dudes want the American Empire to get the fuck out of Vermont...
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It's not entirely surprising to be honest, it happens everywhere. The UK isn't much different. At this rate England, Wales and Scotland will be all separate countries.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;19631547]The United States doesn't make anything anymore. You'd have to become self sufficient to secede from the United States and even hope to hold them off, unless you think the entire world will come to your aid.[/QUOTE] Lol. We have coal mining in the north east, along with trade in the north east. In the South and west there are oil industries cropping up all over the place. The midwest and part of the west produces most of the food that you eat. We also have foresting, and steel mills. (Also, part of the west [Alaska] also has oil exports) [editline]03:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;19632810]Please read the thread. Person A: America doesn't make anything Person B: Weapons systems, etc. etc.[/QUOTE] Trotsky is a troll if you haven't caught on. [editline]03:16PM[/editline] But then again so are you sometimes.
If they leave, the only place they can join is Canada, Since they won't last a week by them selfs
[QUOTE=Ferret+;19626582]Since when was America an empire?[/QUOTE] Since we have Puerto Rico, Guam, and some other territories. And we have puppet governments in Iraq and Afghanistan. We used to have the Philippines too. That's all you need to have an empire. If Vermont secedes, I'm moving there. [editline]11:56AM[/editline] [QUOTE=lulzbocks;19632158]We make steel. Gary, Indiana. I'm guessing we're putting those pollutants in the sky for a reason. Also, all these stupid threads about "changing America" and reforming it in any way is ridiculous. You are seriously going to tell me that you want your lifestyle changed? You couldn't handle life without your computer, your nice house, and a car. You are complaining for the sake of complaining.[/QUOTE] I hope a favorable wind blows all that crap into Chicago. :argh:
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19643901] Trotsky is a troll if you haven't caught on.[/QUOTE] I love this Facepunch defense mechanism. if someone is rash and has something YOU don't agree with, they MUST be trollin. Because opposing opinions in this world, according to Perfumely is absolutely ridiculous. Because your ideas are all powerful. and lankist is not a troll in anyway, i do not agree with him, but I'm not a whiny bitch (IE you) and scream troll every 5 seconds because someone has the audacity to not agree with you or disagree with the fact that you, a 15/16 year old, living in the middle of nowhere, have some awkward fetish for having a whole fucking armory next your bed because satan or xneu, or whatever imaginary person you think is trying to kill you. Also Lankist is intelligent, you are not.
We don't need them anyway.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;19647586]We don't need them anyway.[/QUOTE] why do I imagine you crying while saying that?
Cool, now I won't even have to move to get out of the country.
Good. Vermont is practically Canada anyway.
Just because a state has a lot of these types doesn't mean they'll get anywhere. Every year in Texas we get a bunch of "independent" candidates and they don't get any where. It's easy to fan populist discontent, and it's no different here. And while we're in Vermont, it is home to the second independent in the senate, Bernie Sanders, the only socialist (or so he refers to himself as) in the US Congress.
Please don't call it an Empire.
[QUOTE=shakey42;19651966]Please don't call it an Empire.[/QUOTE] um, it is
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;19645759]Since we have Puerto Rico, Guam, and some other territories. And we have puppet governments in Iraq and Afghanistan. We used to have the Philippines too. That's all you need to have an empire. If Vermont secedes, I'm moving there. [editline]11:56AM[/editline] I hope a favorable wind blows all that crap into Chicago. :argh:[/QUOTE] You make me laugh, There just a couple whack jobs that started a group... Sadly they could not break away from this country if they wanted to. It would be a threat to us, if they somehow rioted or some shit like that, Every armed forces would be poured into that state to take seize and control of everything. Would Never Happen.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;19652733]You make me laugh, There just a couple whack jobs that started a group... Sadly they could not break away from this country if they wanted to. It would be a threat to us, if they somehow rioted or some shit like that, Every armed forces would be poured into that state to take seize and control of everything. Would Never Happen.[/QUOTE] How would they be a threat?
Go back to Canada.... Canadians.
[QUOTE=$SLIMSWITCH$;19652733]You make me laugh, There just a couple whack jobs that started a group... Sadly they could not break away from this country if they wanted to. It would be a threat to us, if they somehow rioted or some shit like that, Every armed forces would be poured into that state to take seize and control of everything. Would Never Happen.[/QUOTE] Uhh no the armed forces cannot legally operate like that within United States borders. To invade would be to recognize the succeeded state's sovereignty, or simply break four dozen laws and constitutional writs. Either way they incite more conflict than they quell, and the situation would quickly escalate and most likely end in hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and a shattered and irreparable union. We have civilian riot police. Military involvement in an intrastate conflict is strictly forbidden in almost all circumstances.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19653855]Uhh no the armed forces cannot legally operate like that within United States borders. To invade would be to recognize the succeeded state's sovereignty or simply break four dozen laws and constitutional writs. Either way they incite more conflict than they quell, and the situation would quickly escalate and most likely end in hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and a shattered and irreparable union.[/QUOTE] Lankist is correct.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19646740]I love this Facepunch defense mechanism. if someone is rash and has something YOU don't agree with, they MUST be trollin. Because opposing opinions in this world, according to Perfumely is absolutely ridiculous. Because your ideas are all powerful. and lankist is not a troll in anyway, i do not agree with him, but I'm not a whiny bitch (IE you) and scream troll every 5 seconds because someone has the audacity to not agree with you or disagree with the fact that you, a 15/16 year old, living in the middle of nowhere, have some awkward fetish for having a whole fucking armory next your bed because satan or xneu, or whatever imaginary person you think is trying to kill you. Also Lankist is intelligent, you are not.[/QUOTE] you are a brown stain on the underpants of society
[QUOTE=CivilProtection;19653971]you are a brown stain on the underpants of society[/QUOTE] Is his shitting on a stain of shit?
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19627184]Well you see thats what makes America great, states joined the Union by CHOICE not by FORCE. It is the duty of every state to leave when the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are shit on and looked upon as 200 year old pieces of useless paper, the very fact we have the Federal Reserve is enough to warrant secession from the Union.[/QUOTE] Well said :golfclap:
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19646740]I love this Facepunch defense mechanism. if someone is rash and has something YOU don't agree with, they MUST be trollin. Because opposing opinions in this world, according to Perfumely is absolutely ridiculous. Because your ideas are all powerful. and lankist is not a troll in anyway, i do not agree with him, but I'm not a whiny bitch (IE you) and scream troll every 5 seconds because someone has the audacity to not agree with you or disagree with the fact that you, a 15/16 year old, living in the middle of nowhere, have some awkward fetish for having a whole fucking armory next your bed because satan or xneu, or whatever imaginary person you think is trying to kill you. Also Lankist is intelligent, you are not.[/QUOTE] Props for balls, but you probably should make sure you don't post in the art section any time soon.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19653855]Uhh no the armed forces cannot legally operate like that within United States borders. To invade would be to recognize the succeeded state's sovereignty, or simply break four dozen laws and constitutional writs. Either way they incite more conflict than they quell, and the situation would quickly escalate and most likely end in hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and a shattered and irreparable union. We have civilian riot police. Military involvement in an intrastate conflict is strictly forbidden in almost all circumstances.[/QUOTE] Posse Comitatus Act biznatches (?) [editline]02:41AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;19654025]Props for balls, but you probably should make sure you don't post in the art section any time soon.[/QUOTE] Yeah... Perfumely's got a hit on me. [editline]02:41AM[/editline] <3
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19654091]Posse Comitatus Act biznatches (?)[/QUOTE] fuk tha military po-lease
If Vermont has a vote and more than half its population wants out I don't see why not. They can still be a part of NATO and trade with other states. It's doesn't have to be that big of a deal.
One small seceding state vs. the US? Not good odds.
Vermont has been this batshit insane for a while now. I don't understand how it's news now.
Why is everyone saying there will be war if Vermont secedes? I think America has bigger fish to fry than Vermont, honestly. [editline]10:01PM[/editline] Maybe if they made like Quebec and pulled an October Crisis, then I can see US involvement, but I doubt that happening
Won't the USA totally split up in 2012 anyway?
Vermont? New Hampshire is where it's all at [img]http://freestateblogs.net/files/images/3950898608.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.freestateproject.org/[/url] :patriot:
:911: :patriot:
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