• Australia Day should be moved to the date a republic is declared, says Greens leader Christine Milne
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[QUOTE=desertdog11;43659720]If we all adopt the Eureka flag it should counterbalance the amount of racists who use it, making the racists a minority that use it (who are a minority anyway), problem solved.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it looks bad right now because of the racist, so then people will accuse the government of being racist but they already look racist anyway
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[QUOTE=Aj;43656346]We have the same problem in New Zealand, with the native Maori's having been given back a shit ton of land and also rights to a lot of the coasts around the country but they still ask for more.[/QUOTE] Well regardless of how much they're given it's going to be less than the original 100% they had
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43662304]Well regardless of how much they're given it's going to be less than the original 100% they had[/QUOTE] They should be glad that they weren't colonized by some other colonial power. At least the Brits veil their expansionism through land purchases and try to avoid genocide.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43663662]They should be glad that they weren't colonized by some other colonial power. At least the Brits veil their expansionism through land purchases and try to avoid genocide.[/QUOTE] Brits were very shitty back in the day it discovered Country, but I always think that about being colonized by some other power and how different things would be
I don't understand the loyalty to January 26th as Australia Day. It's seriously as about as significant to me as Monday. Since it offends some, go ahead and change to whenever you want. Just keep my public holiday count the same.
[QUOTE=gerbe1;43663699]I don't understand the loyalty to January 26th as Australia Day. It's seriously as about as significant to me as Monday. Since it offends some, go ahead and change to whenever you want. Just keep my public holiday count the same.[/QUOTE] May 27th sounds like a good choice to me personally. The day of the 1967 referendum that changed the constitution so Indigenous Australians were counted in the census and allowed the passing of special laws for the benefit of Indigenous Australians, which helped kick off a lot of changes such as the Aboriginal Land Rights Bill. And it's not already a public holiday like January 1st. I honestly wouldn't mind if it got changed to that.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;43664336]May 27th sounds like a good choice to me personally. The day of the 1967 referendum that changed the constitution so Indigenous Australians were counted in the census and allowed the passing of special laws for the benefit of Indigenous Australians, which helped kick off a lot of changes such as the Aboriginal Land Rights Bill. And it's not already a public holiday like January 1st. I honestly wouldn't mind if it got changed to that.[/QUOTE] We'd have to wait till May to hear the hottest 100? Fuuck
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43652175]Why not just use the date for when you became independent like Canada or the US?[/QUOTE] to be fair the US does sometimes celebrate [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus_day"]Christopher Columbus Day[/URL] which is pretty much the celebration of a dude who went to the Americas, kidnapped some natives and sold them into slavery, and then led the way for the systematic colonization of the Americas by European powers.
It does seem a bit strange to have Australia day be the colonization day. Canada and America have their "nation day" on days of confederation/independence respectively, makes a lot more sense really... the actual birth of the nation rather than when europeans people set foot on the contienent
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43670841]It does seem a bit strange to have Australia day be the colonization day. Canada and America have their "nation day" on days of confederation/independence respectively, makes a lot more sense really... the actual birth of the nation rather than when europeans people set foot on the contienent[/QUOTE] We'd celebrate our independence but it's on New Years, and not a lot of people want that to be on New Years because they're recovering from New Years Eve and now they gotta get drinking again for Australia Day
There's someone saying pretty much exactly what Christine Milne said on my facebook feed :v: . Well it makes sense, the kid's from fitzroy aka hipster/hippie central.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;43652410]There's not much more we can do, we've apologized, gave back most of the land, gave them the same rights and benefits as us and try our best to move on, moving the date would cause more shit that nobody wants[/QUOTE] There's still strong discrimination against Aboriginal Australians though, recently brought to my attention by the documentary Utopia. It seems the bare minimum was done and maybe (and I know people hate this) some affirmative action is necessary or something. That may be a bad idea (especially considering that they are certainly a very small minority) but I don't buy that there isn't anything more that can be done. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] While we are on the flag discussion, the Australian Aboriginal flag doesn't look half bad and is less European compared to the Eureka flag. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Smooth Jazz;43673602]While we are on the flag discussion, the Australian Aboriginal flag doesn't look half bad and is less European compared to the Eureka flag which I like. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg[/IMG][/QUOTE] When pulled out of context this looks evil as fuck
[QUOTE=Smooth Jazz;43673602] While we are on the flag discussion, the Australian Aboriginal flag doesn't look half bad and is less European compared to the Eureka flag which I like. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Australian_Aboriginal_Flag.svg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I don't think the Aboriginal people would want it to be the flag of Australia, considering the flag's history and what it stands for.
It's a copyrighted flag as well. The creator refused to let google use it for some reason. [editline]26th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;43662304]Well regardless of how much they're given it's going to be less than the original 100% they had[/QUOTE] Tis good land to develop. The Maori who own it now have a good opportunity to establish logging and other industries.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43675783]It's a copyrighted flag as well. The creator refused to let google use it for some reason.[/QUOTE] Google didn't ask him if they could use it until after they'd selected the winner - wouldn't pay for any rights to it - and basically said "we're going to use this, thanks" (apparently).
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43663662]and try to avoid genocide.[/QUOTE] Tell that to the Aboriginal Tasmanians.
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