Female accused of sexual violence after world hails iconic photo of her kissing Italian riot officer - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43257271]I mean, typically, when someone lays their hand on an officer they get just get something like "resisting arrest"[/QUOTE] but "laying your hand on a police officer" is way too vague, i'm sure there are more specific charges thatd apply if the violence is of a sexual nature?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43257293]well if you're gonna go by what's common, then yes my common sense seems to be spot on considering you and sigma are p much the only ones disagreeing[/QUOTE] feel free to explain your insinuation

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43257082]Where's that picture of Judge Dredd in a similar situation?[/QUOTE] Not the pic you wanted, but I'm sure this was what the officer was thinking. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uEtFBWW.gif[/IMG]

I love it when debates become personal jabs on the first page. There might be a little more to the story than just a kiss guys, especially considering this line: [quote]“No peace message,” she wrote on Facebook. “I would hang all these disgusting pigs upside down.”[/quote]

She was trying to provoke violence. Of course she should be charged. Being a women doesn't exempt you from crimes.

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257324]feel free to explain your insinuation[/QUOTE] well you said my common sense is nonsense because its not common, but it is, at least in this situation i mean my common sense says people would react differently if it was a dude, and almost everyone in this thread seems to agree, so im saying my common sense is not nonsense after all

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43257352]well you said my common sense is nonsense because its not common, but it is, at least in this situation i mean my common sense says people would react differently if it was a dude, and almost everyone in this thread seems to agree, so im saying my common sense is not nonsense after all[/QUOTE] no i said the argument of common sense is non-sense, i really dont know what common sense even means in this context [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;43257343]She was trying to provoke violence. Of course she should be charged. Being a women doesn't exempt you from crimes.[/QUOTE] what relevance does her gender have in the context of determining whether kissing someones helmet is a crime please explain this

Well she said it herself. She was kissing a pig. Sex with animals is illegal

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257363]no i said the argument of common sense is non-sense, i really dont know what common sense even means in this context[/quote] the argument of common sense is not nonsense, why would it be? [quote]what relevance does her gender have in the context of determining whether kissing someones helmet is a crime please explain this[/QUOTE] are you sure you're reading the right thread? what everyone's saying is that a dude would not get away with what she did (which was not just a helmet kiss, you'd probably know that if you'd read the article), and because she's a woman the photo has become pretty iconic

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257363] what relevance does her gender have in the context of determining whether kissing someones helmet is a crime please explain this[/QUOTE] Plenty of comments about how people would have reacted differently if alot of different things were reversed.

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257308]sorry but considering youve talked about punching protesters under the guise of equal rights before its pretty easy for me to believe that the only reason youre calling this "molestation" is to make some easy and cheap argument[/QUOTE] If you spray paint my face, throw your underwear on my neck and then spit on my face, I will punch you - I don't care if you're a protestor. I may or may not be violent person in your opinion because of this, but it's just something I'll do. The reason why I brought up "equal rights" when I pointed out how I'd react to the assualt (i.e. by punching back), was because it was feminists committing the shit I mentioned above (spitting, spray painting on the men etc.). The feminists were ironically exploiting society's concept of "you can't touch a girl under any circumstances" when committing the assault. The fact is, if they are the so-called champion of 'equal-rights' as purported, then you can't selectively choose "what's equal or what's not" when it's convenient for you (assaulting men). This is the crux of why I brought up equality, not to take a random jab at gender equality for no reason, but because it was wholly relevant. You have yet to understand this.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43257387]the argument of common sense is not nonsense, why would it be?[/QUOTE] because like i just explained obviously its not that common because someone disagrees and saying is common ergo you're right doesnt mean anything [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43257387]are you sure you're reading the right thread? what everyone's saying is that a dude would not get away with what she did [/QUOTE] and once again thats a completely made up thing and i dont know where you get that from at all

Hypocrites. Everybody knows he would be charged in this case if it was reversed, to deny that is to be delusional. Being a woman doesn't excuse you from anything, I'm glad there is a question being brought up over this. Charges should be pressed.

I bet that sick twisted officer was planning to gang rape her later and sexually abuse and was already patronizing here from the moment she was born. He probably took that job from an equally deserving women by using his manness.

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43256927]This is the way the world ends.[/QUOTE] not with a bang, but with a pucker.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;43257396]If you spray paint my face, throw your underwear on my neck and then spit on my face, I will punch you - I don't care if you're a protestor. I may or may not be violent person in your opinion because of this, but it's just something I'll do. The reason why I brought up "equal rights" when I brought up my response (i.e. punch), was because it was feminists committing the shit I mentioned above (spitting, spray painting on the men etc.). The feminists were ironically exploiting society's concept of "you can't touch a girl under any circumstances" when committing the assault. The fact is, if they are the so-called champion of 'equal-rights' as purported, then you can't choose "what's equal or what's not" when it's convenient for you (assaulting men). This is the crux of why I brought up equality, it is something you have yet to understand,[/QUOTE] im really not interested in you defending that statement, its more that i think youre using this as a cheap argument about "the so-called champion of 'equal-rights'" feel free to prove me wrong but by mentioning feminists and equal rights in contexts completely absent of those things you're not helping your case this was a train link protest, not a feminist one. im accusing you of trying to start a shit-storm over feminism with something completely unrelated

[QUOTE] Miss De Chiffre has also done her bit to spoil the photograph’s apparent message of non-violence, claiming that she was trying to provoke the officer into reacting. “No peace message,” she wrote on Facebook. “I would hang all these disgusting pigs upside down.”[/QUOTE] Honestly what has that put upon police officer ever done to her except being told to stand outside and be a barrier for her rage, i'm sure all he wanted was to be somewhere else. Sometimes I hate college for the people it coddles and creates,some don't even study or listen to the issues, all they want is to cause trouble in the name of a political idea or cause the only vaguely understand.

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;43257417]I bet that sick twisted officer was planning to gang rape her later and sexually abuse and was already patronizing here from the moment she was born. He probably took that job from an equally deserving women by using his manness.[/QUOTE] these kind of posts really make me even more unconvinced its laughably pathetic [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE='[sluggo];43257403']Hypocrites. Everybody knows he would be charged in this case if it was reversed, to deny that is to be delusional. Being a woman doesn't excuse you from anything, I'm glad there are charges.[/QUOTE] no one is being charged

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257399]because like i just explained obviously its not that common [/quote] except it IS common, at least in this situation, specifically. when i see that posts about what common sense dictates would happen are getting showered in agrees, i can safely assume that the people behind those ratings know from experience that most people they've come in contact with would react differently if the genders were reversed [quote]and once again thats a completely made up thing and i dont know where you get that from at all[/QUOTE] what? am i lying when i say plenty of posts in this thread are about what would happen if the genders were reversed? because that's exactly what i said, and that's not made up at all

[QUOTE=Mabus;43257429]Honestly what has that put upon police officer ever done to her except being told to stand outside and be a barrier for her rage, i'm sure all he wanted was to be somewhere else. Sometimes I hate college for the people it coddles and creates,some don't even study or listen to the issues, all they want is to cause trouble in the name of a political idea or cause the only vaguely understand.[/QUOTE] he didn't have to be there if he didn't want to.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43257472]except it IS common, at least in this situation, specifically. when i see that posts about what common sense dictates would happen are getting showered in agrees, i can safely assume that the people behind those ratings know from experience that most people they've come in contact with would react differently if the genders were reversed what? am i lying when i say plenty of posts in this thread are about what would happen if the genders were reversed? because that's exactly what i said, and that's not made up at all[/QUOTE] ok ill concede that common sense on facepunch maybe dictates something based on ratings if you really want to say that. it's still not an argument that works when you want to make a point about "gender equality" or whatever you or someone else were trying to make. and no i'm saying that the gender reversed situation is made up, it's literally a fantasy not rooted in reality.

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257422]im really not interested in you defending that statement, its more that i think youre using this as a cheap argument about "the so-called champion of 'equal-rights'" feel free to prove me wrong but by mentioning feminists and equal rights in contexts completely absent of those things you're not helping your case this was a train link protest, not a feminist one. im accusing you of trying to start a shit-storm over feminism with something completely unrelated[/QUOTE] It is a feminist issue though, we are pointing out that this image would definitely not have been hailed as peaceful protest if it was a man doing these things. Could you imagine it? Honestly you are delusional if you disagree with that. If you actually supported equality, then you would realize that discrimination is a two way street. Seems to me like you think it only exists in one direction.

[QUOTE=thisispain;43257422]im really not interested in you defending that statement, its more that i think youre using this as a cheap argument about "the so-called champion of 'equal-rights'" feel free to prove me wrong but by mentioning feminists and equal rights in contexts completely absent of those things you're not helping your case this was a train link protest, not a feminist one. im accusing you of trying to start a shit-storm over feminism with something completely unrelated[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what you're getting at, this argument a lot to do with feminism. Since your main point was on my use of "molestation" I'll just address that: what happened in the OP is an act of molestation. It isn't a cheap argument or a buzzword. I might've concurred with you otherwise in that it was a "cheap argument", but when she went out of her way when it wasn't necessary just to highlight that was no peaceful message and she'd rather "see all the pigs hung upside down" - then whatever she did before that cements her actions as indisputably molestation. She literally said her intent was beyond 'kissing' him or anything less then what you assume.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43257487'][B]It is a feminist issue though[/B], we are pointing out that this image would definitely not have been hailed as peaceful protest if it was a man doing these things. Could you imagine it? Honestly you are delusional if you disagree with that. If you actually supported equality, then you would realize that discrimination is a two way street. Seems to me like you think it only exists in one direction.[/QUOTE] Feminism isn't something like Mars or Coca-Cola, there's an understandable amount of disparity in what people believe feminism is if a a person identifies as a feminist.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43257480]he didn't have to be there if he didn't want to.[/QUOTE] When you take a job sometimes you do stuff you don't like, but you have to do it. Sometimes it's horrible and makes you stay awake at night. But you still take it because that's what you were told to expect when you signed on for. Jeez if I had the choice to simply not do what I didn't like when I took a job I'd be a happier man. Who knows Yawmwen, maybe some day when you leave whatever la-la land you live in you too may take that choice!

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43257487'] realize that discrimination is a two way street. Seems to me like you think it only exists in one direction.[/QUOTE] This is the biggest problem with large elements of the feminist movement. Imagine how the comments would be different if it was a female cop and a male protester.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;43257508]Feminism isn't something like Mars or Coca-Cola, there's an understandable amount of disparity in what people believe feminism is if a a person identifies as a feminist.[/QUOTE] There is disagreement within groups certainly, but who is defending this? Who is refusing to acknowledge the double standard? Who is using this to further there own agenda? Feminists.

[QUOTE=Mabus;43257512]When you take a job sometimes you do stuff you don't like, but you have to do it. Sometimes it's horrible and makes you stay awake at night. But you still take it because that's what you were told to expect when you signed on for. Jeez if I had the choice to simply not do what I didn't like when I took a job I'd be a happier man. Who knows Yawmwen, maybe some day when you leave whatever la-la land you live in you too may take that choice![/QUOTE] being a cop isn't a job. it's a full-time career as class traitor. if he didn't like the idea of busting skulls and playing babysitter for protesters he wouldn't have signed on as a police officer. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("This bad posting has gone long enough." - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43257533]being a cop isn't a job. it's a full-time career as class traitor.[/QUOTE] Cops have done me some solids and I'm not a wealthy elite.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;43257488]I'm not sure what you're getting at, this argument a lot to do with feminism. [/QUOTE] no this event had nothing to do with feminism. you turned it into a feminist argument along with the police union.