• Child Psychopath(s)
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[QUOTE=Mingebox;35974215]They're not like delusional schizophrenics who can't properly make rational judgements though. Psychopaths are perfect capable of understand the theory of things like empathy and a conscience, which they certainly use to their advantage. They might not feel guilt, but they are intellectually capable of understand right from wrong.[/QUOTE] What he's saying is that they're completely self-motivated. They can only actually give a shit about something based upon how it affects them, while a mentally healthy individual can weigh how a decision will affect themselves, their friends, their peers, and the greater community. They may or may not be able to conceptualize how the other half lives, but they are completely incapable of doing so. Even if they understand the rules, they can't understand the sentiment because they don't comprehend the idea of communal wellbeing. They don't just see themselves as the center of the world, they [I]are[/I] their own world, and nothing else around them is of any consequence.
Aren't some people born a Psychopath in some cases, because I heard that Eric Harris(The guy who masterminded the Columbine Massacre) was a Psychopath and he was born that way.
A society led by a psychopath could do well. The psychopath would be the leader, not the entire society. So the normals would provide balance. A society comprised only of psychopaths wouldn't work though.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35974281]A society led by a psychopath could do well.[/QUOTE] No, only the psychopath would do well. The rest of the society would exist entirely to serve the whims of the psychopath. Read above.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35974215]They're not like delusional schizophrenics who can't properly make rational judgements though. Psychopaths are perfect capable of understand the theory of things like empathy and a conscience, which they certainly use to their advantage. They might not feel guilt, but they are intellectually capable of understand right from wrong.[/QUOTE] It's like someone understanding that people are able to whistle, and can completely conceptualize the process, but are unable to do so themselves. They will never truly [i]know[/i] what whistling feels like. Likewise, a psychopath can understand that other humans have emotions, and they can conceptualize this, but they never actually feel the empathy. The thought of them feeling the emotions of others is simply a rational idea, versus being an emotional reality like it is for most everyone else. When we see someone crying, we feel at least somewhat sad(more or less depending on how well you know the person), but a psychopath only understands that the person is sad in the abstract conceptual way. They are literally unable to feel emotion, and that is almost heart breaking, because these people hurt others, but never actually know on any level of substance what that victim is going through. They are damaged in one of the most fundamental ways imaginable.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35974180] Shit, that's basically what we did to the neandertals. They were smarter than us, more cooperative and they were the first hominids to actually have the physical structures enabling verbal speech. We were dumb and strong and we either out-hunted them, massacred them, or interbred with them until they ceased to exist.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. Neandertals were first in initial social development, but they were soon overtaken by us, because they were slowed, dumber, and while stronger, lacking in imagination. We simply outwitted them.
[QUOTE=gufu;35974324]Actually, no. Neandertals were first in initial social development, but they were soon overtaken by us, because they were slowed, dumber, and while stronger, lacking in imagination. We simply outwitted them.[/QUOTE] You mean we out-fucked them right [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] Because that's where most of them went. We fucked them into oblivion.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35974281]A society led by a psychopath could do well. The psychopath would be the leader, not the entire society. So the normals would provide balance. A society comprised only of psychopaths wouldn't work though.[/QUOTE] Not really because the psychopath is literally only out to serve their own goals and motivations. The community itself would exist in their mind only as a tool for whatever it is they want. This does not make an adept leader. If the people stayed loyal to that leader, that leader would lead them to their death. [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;35974331]You mean we out-fucked them right [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] Because that's where most of them went. We fucked them into oblivion.[/QUOTE] Oddly enough that's generally a good strategy evolution wise. You got a competitor species that threatens your survival? Fuck eachother till you can't possibly have more babies, then fuck them.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35974331]You mean we out-fucked them right [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] Because that's where most of them went. We fucked them into oblivion.[/QUOTE] Both, rather. And a little bit of column A leading to the column B.
The one who fucks fastest often wins. I mean look at rabbits, they evolved to fuck faster than most other mammals and they completely wreck shit whenever they have a chance.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;35974281]A society led by a psychopath could do well. The psychopath would be the leader, not the entire society. So the normals would provide balance. A society comprised only of psychopaths wouldn't work though.[/QUOTE] Cheney 2012.
[QUOTE=Lick;35973725]They shouldn't put these kids together in camps. They could organize and overthrow a small country[/QUOTE] I'd do it. For Science.
[QUOTE]I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead, [...] Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol.[/QUOTE] I laughed. God can't save you now...
[QUOTE=socks;35974003]Beth was allegedly cured-- she's a nurse now [url]http://jl10ll.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/children-of-rage/[/url][/QUOTE] the truly creepy thing is that she could easily be lying they're obscenely good at pretending to care
[quote]Alyssa Bustamente was 15 when she confessed to luring her 9-year-old neighbor Elizabeth Olten into a nearby forest and killing her in 2009. "I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead," Bustamante wrote in her diary at the time. "It was ahmazing. As soon as you get over the 'ohmygawd I can't do this' feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kinda nervous and shaky though right now. Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol." In February, she was sentenced to life in prison.[/quote] I saw this on FBI Files. Pretty fucked. [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] Just started watching the Child of Rage documentary. What the FUCK
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;35973728]This woman I used to know in Missouri was a social worker and came across a little girl who was doing the exact same thing to her brother. With the pins, molestation, and the animals. She also tried to kill him with a shovel. Stuff of nightmares. [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] Isn't it also loosely related to sociopathy?[/QUOTE] I am technically a sociopath yet I feel remorse and feel badly for some people, it really depends. You can be a sociopath and your emotions are just muted or do not show well or you can straight up have no feeling what so ever.
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;35986821]I am technically a sociopath yet I feel remorse and feel badly for some people, it really depends. You can be a sociopath and your emotions are just muted or do not show well or you can straight up have no feeling what so ever.[/QUOTE] Let me guess, "self diagnosis".
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;35986821]I am technically a sociopath yet I feel remorse and feel badly for some people, it really depends. You can be a sociopath and your emotions are just muted or do not show well or you can straight up have no feeling what so ever.[/QUOTE] That's interesting because sociopathy is not something people get diagnosed with by professionals. Anti-Social Personality Disorder, when diagnosed, includes none of the things you just mentioned. If you DID have the disorder, you would have absolutely no desire to be posting on a social message board. You would be incredibly introverted and antisocial. [editline]17th May 2012[/editline] FYI, do not go labeling yourself as a psychopath. It is not a cool or rebellious thing to diagnose yourself as.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35987534]That's interesting because sociopathy is not something people get diagnosed with by professionals. Anti-Social Personality Disorder, when diagnosed, includes none of the things you just mentioned. If you DID have the disorder, you would have absolutely no desire to be posting on a social message board. You would be incredibly introverted and antisocial. [editline]17th May 2012[/editline] FYI, do not go labeling yourself as a psychopath. It is not a cool or rebellious thing to diagnose yourself as.[/QUOTE] Some psychopaths are incredibly extroverted. Look at Jeffrey Dahmer. It all depends on the motives and personality of the individual. However, if you aren't 18, you can't be diagnosed with ASPD. If you haven't committed a crime or serious act of violence you probably haven't been diagnosed with ASPD. If you haven't displayed tendencies since you were about 13 you can't be diagnosed with ASPD. There are very strict criteria for ASPD since it is such a serious personality disorder, and can't be mis-diagnosed.
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;35986821]I am technically a sociopath[/QUOTE] technically? how can you be technically a sociopath?
Fuck all, we're only human.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35987534]That's interesting because sociopathy is not something people get diagnosed with by professionals. Anti-Social Personality Disorder, when diagnosed, includes none of the things you just mentioned. If you DID have the disorder, you would have absolutely no desire to be posting on a social message board. You would be incredibly introverted and antisocial. [editline]17th May 2012[/editline] FYI, do not go labeling yourself as a psychopath. It is not a cool or rebellious thing to diagnose yourself as.[/QUOTE] If anything, I'd say people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder would be drawn to the internet, especially places like 4chan, where there's no repercussions for antisocial behavior.
Makes me wonder how does implementation of cult of religion, personality, as well as military-enforced discipline would affect a psychopath.
[QUOTE=socks;35973877]The killing and torturing was absolutely terrible, but I think what disturbed me most was the sexual offenses. In the video it said that Beth "masturbated at inappropriate times"-- I mean, she was six years old for christ's sake.[/QUOTE] Girls actually start masturbating very young usually because they don't need to be sexually mature to get active blood flow down there or for it to feel good, therefore it's very common for young girls (even at those very young years) to do it after they accidentally discover that it's pleasant - it also usually makes the parents absolutely terrified if they find out because they don't realise it's actually very common in girls. Doesn't make every god damn girl a psychopath.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;35988239]If anything, I'd say people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder would be drawn to the internet, especially places like 4chan, where there's no repercussions for antisocial behavior.[/QUOTE] antisocial means antisocial, not malcontent. A psychopath would only want to interact with a large community if it were of some practical benefit to themselves, and even then their engagement would be minimal.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35988325]antisocial means antisocial, not malcontent. A psychopath would only want to interact with a large community if it were of some practical benefit to themselves, and even then their engagement would be minimal.[/QUOTE] Anti-social can also mean being antagonistic toward society in addition to not being social IIRC.
I think the abuse from my dad is starting to show, he never hit me, but 2 days ago, i chased off my friends with my rifle for no apparent reason, and i had an intent to kill.
uh get help?
[QUOTE=zombini;35988477]I think the abuse from my dad is starting to show, he never hit me, but 2 days ago, i chased off my friends with my rifle for no apparent reason, and i had an intent to kill.[/QUOTE] Dr. Facepunch isn't going to help, you need to find a real doctor.
I think it can be quite environmentally caused. There is(was, he is in jail now) a kid who lived on my street, we where about the same age and would always hang out and do stuff, this included capturing and hurting animals, smoking, and other things that a normal 9yr old would not do. Suffice to say my parents finally realized what this kid was doing and disallowed me to hang out with him any more, and for that I thank them greatly, as it turns out he was diagnosed to be a Psychopath by teams at juvenile detention. To this day I keep a fairly detached view on the world (I mean I understand it fully and am politically and socially adept, but I can see the bigger picture a lot more clear than most people I know), while I DO feel empathy and remorse, if I need to do something I can push it out of my way and get on with life, and I don't think I was born this way, I think that being with him for 7~ years of my life caused much of this.
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